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#1 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 12:03:12 PM(UTC)
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As I came to understand fully the Israel factor. One of the ideas is to establish voluntary association. I think the idea fits with that writing YGH (why don't you call me????) with Forum/site that you want to improve and what Rooney wrote.

Here is what I thought and I can't wait to hear your opinion

Israel National Trail Association — Israel National Trail Association

Purpose: to protect, preserve and promote Israel as trail walking route has unique natural history values.  

The Association's activities:

  • Website to INT Both in Hebrew and in English.
  • Coordinating activities related to the track in front of various bodies – the Committee to mark trails, the nature and Parks Authority, Ministry of tourism, Ministry of environment, etc.
  • Social activities-coexistence Trail Day , מפגשים.
  • Construction of water points value – the establishment of permanent water points according to the needs of the area to allow visitors walking safer and more enjoyable
  • The establishment of services – establish green services where necessary
  • Writing-help with writing and distributing the book professional training both in English and in Hebrew
  • For cleaning – cleaning days such as Passover and Sukkot. I'd start with Amud stream-filthy in there!!!
  • Education-working with schools, youth movements. Lectures
  • Advertising and public relations – working with newspapers, websites and media worldwide

Sponsor
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#2 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 1:11:22 PM(UTC)
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Nice idea but I think there's duplication across Israel trail as Dani Gaspar presents it and wants to push development and its associated. I suggest you talk to him, if you are know.

Each activity and action related to nature protection company that is responsible for the official

And Dani Gaspar and indirectly URI will determine what pesticide and where and when.

Don't let your body for any project on the mountain path.

First and most importantly to raise awareness in the Israel National Trail (INT) and each subject walks away.

For insufficient to raise all this support.

If there were a lot of people toapilo to sections on the path we can raise a lot of projects because if people would be a good idea to pick up all the most important places to stay to go.

B & BS too expensive. Dani Gaspar's idea is to set the communities on the path krooainam or containers are contributing, but he had no problem who get stronger because there is no money. For tomorrow have changed constructs but temporary groupings oppose because there is no one to take responsibility because there is no profit.

Inside with you.

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#3 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 1:35:11 PM(UTC)
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I run out of cooperation that we all want the same thing. The path belongs to all of us!!! I set an appointment with later updates.

I think right now the main problems for both: dirt, no book, no site, no material in English.

I think you're going for a lot more people than we know (including Day Hike).

Perhaps the first thing to do in the immediate suggestion for google/search forum for Israel-Jews "or" israel national trail "also results in this forum. This is undoubtedly the largest information repository that currently exists.

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#4 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 4:41:36 PM(UTC)
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I've been pretty busy, so I didn't have time for. You will receive in the coming days.
However, for day trips, Charter School, I think. Most people prefer a book with tales Mar Handbook dry space.
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#5 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 6:54:35 PM(UTC)
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YGH. They can, at least so far, to prevent activity of any deals for Israel, because Israel ש"שביל" is their trademark.  And if they don't they won't do it.

Charter School for families coming for a day with the best areas toilim cars of the trail where you can do without the topographic maps.  He really doesn't fit into the more remote areas of the trail in the South that need to navigate using the map.

Except for the financial section, maps marking the trails are suitable for a trip of several days in the region. Are large, wide and very uncomfortable to use and go all Bill Israel must 12 (out of 20) these maps when some for just going into their tiny. Who wants to go to the section for once have a few of them, and it's a serious weight.

Overall there is a need for a book for THRUHIKERS and especially maps are for specific and are intended for people long sections and can be tospecim by vehicles.  Today to make the end-to-end Israel should use maps covering approximately 70% of the State of Israel.  By using a few miles wide narrow maps on each side of the trail, can I create a directory with printed maps that cover only 10%-20% of the trail and it is still possible to navigate with.

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#6 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 7:08:27 PM(UTC)
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The Israel National Trail guide is designed for end-to-end THRUHIKERS in collaboration with Danny, Sir, Yes, the society for protection of nature in Israel and anyone who will lend a hand, should be our first priority, simply because there is a need for clear and immediate in that guide.

Welcome activities such as education and cleaning the path should come later because they require a lot more manpower and coordination. It only takes one person to write a guide on the path, but needed centuries to clean it.

My goal (and hopefully) throughout this project is to help to other THRUHIKERS just like that and help me when I do THRUHIKE. Financial gain is not and should not be a motive for any of us, so it may be a situation of conflict of interest amongst the nature preservation society-the copyright holder on the name "Israel".

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#7 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 10:16:36 PM(UTC)
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I iodsh I Zvi Gilat printing a new edition of the path based on the amendments. At the time I suggested to Danny Gaspar of several maps, he has trouble with Ben Dvir. This is not an official body initiating action, just makes the price that Israel would require a mapping on the maps is high.
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#8 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 11:24:28 PM(UTC)
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I think a solution to map!
Http://worldwind.arc.nasa.gov/

I have a friend who plows on the software (and notify me how use it properly; yet he claims you can get from her duties not bad), and if we can get the air photograph of the stripes and the flag for a lot of work, but no copyright over and got great achievement.
And here is a link with what the software does:
Http://www.fresh.co.il/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=36027
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#9 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 11:47:50 PM(UTC)
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I looked at the link you gave and see how the 3D photos that the software gives you can create a topographic map in black and white (cheaper to print this way), you can put in a book and navigate. Your boyfriend says it's possible

I began to search the Internet for an international source for topographic maps. (I think you can rely on a scale of 1:100000).  I haven't found anything.

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#10 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2005 11:57:41 PM(UTC)
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Here is a link to map-Soviet relations of Israel and the rest of the world that you can find for free on the Internet:

Http://library.ucsc.edu/maps/ucsmg/soviet.html

There is still copyright on these maps, but can buy them cheaply.

Someone in the Forum know Russian?

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:00:20 AM(UTC)
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Before entering the window should try.

As we will see now an idea the book source shape and the project started-YGH. I set an appointment with-need to see what they say and what they think. They collaborate with other bodies, why not us? Dani Gaspar-reserve returns on Sunday and also meet with him. Anyone see him?

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:33:45 AM(UTC)
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Wow. You guys are awesome, some pulling.
I'm really rooting for Bill number and well as the handbook or the databook (first priority, I think), and I think it's definitely something worth working for.
Stronghold here bomber with the YGH, bombed like crazy with this software, I am now taking — it looks really cool, and the Russian site does not display maps of Turkey-got error when trying to get parts from the Lycian name.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:35:21 AM(UTC)
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As I know they won't let you easily םפ substances and rights for those who doesn't have strong financial backing and promises to pick up marketing. All of the map array in o Luke very connected so to speak the language. I have a few connections and try to see what happens with it.

I talked to a couple of times, black egg. Is for anything having to do with promoting the important promotion, accommodation and equipment hankoda dot bouncing all along the path as we do in Europe for the pilgrims. He said that as long as there's really a lot of people will not have no profits. As in the past, initiatives like mini buildings etc. temporary fell because of the numerous robberies throughout the path. Steal everything not made of Earth and stones.

I repeat all starts with raising awareness for a walk. My thing is the walk of Jews and Christians, and ultimately for all of it in the country. And who to talk to.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:54:20 AM(UTC)
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The man should speak the name Alex Silverman.

There is a price: If you want to buy the whole set of the maps scanned files it will cost you $ 20,000, because you want only the set map sections just for only sections along the path, like her these sections and the price will be. I think a rough calculation # 50,000 scale approximately 8-10 small pieces from A4 (two-thirds) to map multiplied by the number of maps along the path, I think, i.e. roughly 150 pieces of map. I think it will only matter less than 10,000 scan.

My friend got the price of so-called commercial license for use of more than 1,000 pieces made for map books are required to pay $ 470 I mean if you want to print 5,000 instructors have the license, $ 2,350.

I mean to use the 5,000 maps p. will be no less than $ 15,000, only don't see demand so many copies. Remember also that this matter be updated maps and updating the path for that variable. Best not to attach the map to tell but on separate pages to change only some of them, it's also a way to future revenue, the whole map is updated to get more money.

Just need to know how to write the Guide. Edit, insert media, scanned her for good. Important, read then. To find a retailer.

Book market in the country get stronger by steimatzky, monopoly when you are rested. I once thought the print book. They take the final price of the book if they decide to distribute, 60-70%!

Without market hard today. The space is really measured in pennies and worth only if you are printing to a chovda or print some books. In lglit first check.

I'm not pessimistic, I'm just skeptical realist.

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:29:35 PM(UTC)
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What if we use the software maps of NASA, that might not be accurate navigation maps, but they could be enough to find the path and put the book on the hunt?

I'm always up for "open source" and if YGH (after all, he seems to be the author of the book) does not plan to, we just put all the information in pdf format here on the site. Whoever wants to do for, or parts thereof, to download and print.

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 12:53:44 PM(UTC)
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I spoke with Alex.

Price each scanned map = 2200. 14 30800 (MA). Commercial license for 1000 copies NIS 31270-470 total.

There is no doubt that commercial cooperation body definitely help but it still can raise money relatively ב"קלות ...

-I think that since the target audience is hikers can market directly to ricochet, traveling etc. Assuming that saving might purchase maps of approximately $ 1000, you can sell your number between-150 shekels (less than 2 maps). About the size of the market-if you scroll modes working on a third edition so have demand.

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#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:22:46 PM(UTC)
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You don't need any map but there will be no price segments and 2,200 dip, much less dependent on the surface scan.

Check out all the subject of marketing and distributing it. You must bring your book to all major shops, ricochet and hiker is nothing, remember the book serves not only the walking for all but also sections and none of them come to ricochet to seek dryavi.

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#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:53:03 PM(UTC)
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You don't think the idea of just putting the entire book bent?

If the goal is not to make a profit, but rather to increase the use of the dock, and has thought about writing it, so why would it not be just on the site, and anyone who wants can download it? The problem is the cost of the maps, but you can get really software maps or another, lower price, and copyright.

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#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:22:26 PM(UTC)
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I have another idea YGH entirely you haven't done. And almost never saw him abroad.

Give me a call

0522791953

And that doesn't include pedestrians Turkmen or Shinto.

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:29:38 PM(UTC)
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Note about the Russian site maps, 1990, prepared in the same year, and probably even more photos in a year or two earlier. A superficial examination of the maps and data are updated in the extreme. Just get out of here and to work on translating the Hebrew into alagan data and lots of money, I was facing the Commander.

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