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imtl  
#21 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 12:35:27 PM(UTC)
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Just to emphasize that if we are going backwards as Amnon mentioned, namely South to North so start over 3000 metres and heights need to give your body to adjust.
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#22 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 5:56:10 PM(UTC)
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I didn't go for but I traveled with two British brothers who made the Trek I did (14 days, whr) with food all the time as they prepare for Greece itinerary.

Heard quite a bit about the path, one has already made it, and now they want to do it together.
His review for:
Http://bigwalksclub.co.uk/JohnMuirTrail.html

If you are looking for possible problems, so one of the biggest is the weight of a backpack, food all the time and sleeping and cooking equipment could create a pod of over 20 pounds easily, add a path not found at all in the category of Israel and accept the challenge, but that's life isn't it?
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#23 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:35:11 AM(UTC)
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Thank you for your comments.
Amnon: Israel for ohel, k., kicking etc. so we used to carry them, the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION in summer requires special clothing beyond good fleece? (+ Rain capes to case.)
You say there is no comparison for Israel. A lot of ups and downs in mountain passes Is the southern part of shvil Israel (small/large crater on) similar in difficulty or the southern part is ridiculous in comparison?
In addition there's pegs says there are no tracks "and" the technical for this simple convenient way with long slopes? Or that areas with rocks and short people? I ask because it's not hard-but that's what will determine if I can carry a decent camera with me or not (the camera sits on my stomach with a special latch manufacturer, very comfortable and very very uncomfortable in areas where legs.)

I took a month, the Israel trail experience was (me in particular) tend to apply some temporary rest so I guess we get the equipment sit some day.
An average of 5 miles a day not finishing the month:). In any case, I don't believe it to be our average unless days like Crest are considered easy to days on the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION then just pass (today's Crest and cherishing km garage tribute to mitzpe Ramon (made to 29 with the walk to the hostel tours around) were the only days I really felt we had really tough.
And no, I'm not looking for noughts and crosses, admits booga:)

Mrwise: all time There is no place to stock up on the Middle???
Anyway – dry weight (including winter clothing) stands about 4.5 kg including double tent (stertospiir terptant), air mattresses, etc. So I hope at least the weight category.

Procurement subject certainly concerns me because what I have lived in an illusion that there is some industrial complex points which scattered mostly at two-thirds.

Thanks again to everyone.
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#24 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:52:47 AM(UTC)
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Need a good jacket or fleece. Gloves. A balaclava. Thermal clothing.
Everything you need to stay on the ground. Cold at night. Very much.

The ups and downs are completely different other heights. There is no room for comparison. I wouldn't set the Negev as ridiculous but definitely cannot compare in terms of difficulty.

Mostly easy way aside from climbing and descent from apassim. I think you have no problem taking a camera.

If you go 5 km a day the Steelers for more than two months and it's not serious.
Going 25-30 km per day on the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION. Except for Mount Whitney that the extension.

Don't know what Mr. wise's girlfriend did, but of course you can wear through. They decided to take everything without bringing doesn't mean they do. There are several places of delivery we can send food packages to yourselves or hitch to a place where you can obtain.

Dry weight of 7.2 pounds only. Because if so then start cutting weight.
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#25 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:47:33 AM(UTC)
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Thank you.
We're not planning to walk 5 miles a day, simply answered the Amnon about ones walking 5 miles a day.
We can't walk 25 to 30 miles a day. I believe we can walk there to 20 km a day with urgency in some days but certainly not 25 direction every day and also depends on the amount of climbing.
Read about a few points that seem scattered and beautiful allow five days of lift no more food on their backs, absolutely.
7.2 kg for an individual? It is a dry weight (backpack, km, air mattress, fleece, clothes, socks, flashlights, first aid, Exchange, telephone, gloves, clothing, tent, gas cooker, gas burner, glasses, eating utensils, towels, sandals (I suppose to have them crossing at JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION.) ...

7.2 do not scratch the Ultra Light category yet?
All our Ultra Light gear: backpacks of ULA, km backwards 850 + (my wife's 800 g, just below, including compression sacks) Henry, terptant tent weighs 1365 g including tiibk down, removed titanium.

List of our final equipment from Israel:
Http://gil.disatnik.com/te.xls
Tell how to cut ...

Thank you.
Edit: all listed as ל"ר-us (shoes, shirt, etc ...) or not taking him (e.g. camera) not counted in the overall scaleGibsonLP41192.0374768519
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 4:01:16 AM(UTC)
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The comparison to Israel in terms of difficulty rises repeatedly in threads. Those who went in the Israel National Trail (INT) and for comparison between Alpine know is unfair. The level difference is dramatic but topography the topography is negligible compared to the conditions. Israel National Trail is a difficult path in terms of climatic conditions. Also in winter day temperature 30 degrees it situated and therefore one cannot compare it to walking an average temperature of 12 degrees for. Take for example a path just as the snake comes to Masada. Only a mile and a half, but if you try the same afternoon 40 degrees (as I did two weeks ago), you'll find that it becomes for any challenges that are difficult to cool himself. Give another example. Trying to get up, turn in April afternoon. Alpine scale this is a type of joke but when you sink in powder and no cooling breeze wash the body with a temperature of 32 degrees, and it becomes more of a nightmare than climbing. Therefore, the proper comparison should be made with some parameters. In terms of topography, Israel is an easy trail to the North, ridiculous and mediocre. It is much harder than it really is because of the climate and the level of maintenance.

Return to JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION. Unlike regular Alpine track with Changeable weather and quite a lot of rain in July and August, the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION completely dry. It's not a one-time thing but many years statistics. The chance for rain is roughly the same as the chances for rain in Tel Aviv in August. Therefore shouldn't take Cape. Incidentally, people forget that you can always use the coverage as a Cape. Cold nights and mornings around zero and therefore need good to brass. There are at least 2 purchase points on the track himself and a few hours off-axis. I carried food for 4 days at a time and I completed the route in 10 days as part of walking in PCT in 2001. No need to get too much of the time. If I go out tomorrow to JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION as a single trip was paying him between 15 and 20 days.
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#27 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 4:35:45 AM(UTC)
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I looked at your list and you have to remember that this equipment as much a matter of style. You're not in it olteraliit these settings. Because you don't change files and not like really expensive equipment and tent (no change), so there's only other things such as:
Raincoats, 2 phones, deodorant, lotions, sandals, towels, lockers, the rain cover. It was thus a glance out of the bag.
You have already a high Sierra.
Replaces the blowtorch and a Pepsi with Stube hit.
Reduced clothing. Your mandfot t-shirts appear irrational in terms of weight.

In the track as it you don't replace shoes when you want streams. You have dozens of crossings along the route. Just go like this. Don't change shoes every few minutes. It's not a long walk for a day trip.
If you like trail shoes are very airy raners then you dry out faster. Even the weather in August and it's very dry.

Agree with Khalid about the times. The people I met who went the JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION are made between 14 and 21 days.
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#28 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:42:38 AM(UTC)
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I can't wait to go to J.M., it doesn't fit with anything, but I love to travel.
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#29 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:24:38 AM(UTC)
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Thanks again.
Amnon: I think I finally figured out what you were trying to say about the comparison.
I really want to enjoy your trip ו"לספוג" landscapes and therefore I think the rate of 15-20 km per day is what nclach. I'd be surprised if more without end.

Imtl:
It's not our equipment list to this list of JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION, our equipment off the trail, it's clear to me that we need more of a bar ...:
But you are good examples of leaf cutting.
Raincoats carried because it was winter and we Upstate. They proved themselves, caught in the North more than once, towards the South we gave them anymore. If this is going to be dry in August they went.
Deodorants-big halablin. Lee is also itching with Slayer 100% success 20 years so for me is quite mandatory. Was there cream creams and toothpaste and oltern that greatly and was unnecessary (the area 100 grams per phone).
2 phones was a little better but I believe this one is important, isn't it? I mean also carry Spot Messanger unless you think it's just a treat and paranoia.
Sandals: shoes get wet, simply exchange the halves? Our mantra has been: a wet sock = blisters, it is not the same in the USA. So you're saying I need ndefot shoes and sealed water can dry quickly?
Replace the blowtorch in Pepsi Stube makes sense too, considering that according to what I understand it's hard to function with the blowtorch in these heights?
Shirt clothing = heats (ikroplis) and shorts. If you sweat less on JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION so you really can cut there although the aplis was my pillow at night and I do want a shirt.
Don't understand why the irrational mandfot shirts in terms of weight, I'm big and my clothes weigh quite a bit:
Hope I could shed another until JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION (I downloaded 15 pounds since the beginning of the end for plus 5 kg thereafter)

Anyway, the north face had just disintegrated within two weeks of friction with bag (so not suited for conditions) and was replaced by another shirt that weighs a little less, but not dramatically.

About hiking times:
I have no idea how long it would take, said just a month.
I know in relation to travellers in the Israel National Trail (INT) were relatively slow and barely finished the days according to the Division of the North and yankele around Jerusalem (entry and exit).
Just somewhere in the South went really in shape which allowed us to finish the day went relatively hard and it had most of the time.
We are slow in getting organized and relatively slow this morning.
If we can walk an average of 25 miles per day and enjoy-but I'd love to be surprised. We don't fit that well not believe ever.
If that means we need Oh God!-appreciate if you tell, we go on a trip with no more waiting 20 miles per day to 16th day direction.
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:45:53 AM(UTC)
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I will not give up. If you can do 10 miles a day, have no trouble finishing.
There are devout of the advocate Forum JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION and its Forum of ar
I suggest you to send him a private message. He has a lot of material about the trail
And he also reassure you about physical fitness.
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#31 Posted : Wednesday, October 10, 2012 4:07:49 PM(UTC)
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What to give? You'll pass the runway without problems.

I think most phones that just no signal in the area, then what's the point?

Sandals that just used to cross rivers. It's not like Israel have a value once to switch Creek.
Business drying up fast if you have shoes and airtight at room temp.

No problem to use the blowtorch. It is not that high. Just respect.
If I remember correctly you have a funkier head band-Israel of 350 grams. That's a lot.

Good luck!
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#32 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:09:43 AM(UTC)
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Sorry for the late response.

Thank you very much.
The book and we are starting preparations.
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#33 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 2:54:30 AM(UTC)
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Honesty? About a year? It's a little early to prepare.
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#34 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 10:32:07 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = imtl]? About a year? It's a little early to get ready

This season July to September.

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#35 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 10:58:35 AM(UTC)
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Now October. There's still almost a year as I wrote.
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#36 Posted : Monday, October 15, 2012 1:08:08 PM(UTC)
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Spot is a very good idea in my opinion. It also gives peace of mind to those who stayed at home in case of emergency there.

I only know this year few people who rescued them.

Going for it is a signal of roads and telephones, enough that you are injured and you can't take it anymore and you have to go 40 miles to Greece this for the final issue.

If you have a month, I recommend you try not to skip the purchase points, it's really nice to carry food for some days (especially when I have to put it into force bear boxes)

In relation to the weight of the case 7-8 pounds of equipment is not ultra Lite but not everyone should be ultra Lite:) Add one liter of water and 4 pounds of food so you pounds on your back as you come out even with the town of ULA is cool.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:30:43 AM(UTC)
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Someone using on-Spot Messanger?
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#38 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:06:51 AM(UTC)
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I used the spot, the device of doing what he's supposed to send message sometimes OK is not coming so it is important to explain that whoever receives this message even if he did not receive a few messages then nothing happened.

If the OK message is not important to you then there are other instruments only emergency notification and call for rescue, as it
Http://www.rei.com/category/40002203
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:14:35 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = imtl]? About a year? It's a little early to get ready

Maybe early who Israel tv if we Bill and tie just deteriorated and JMT FILMS DISTRIBUTION is much more than in the Israel National Trail (INT) so we better get physically fit as possible.
Although it was our first trip to be more than a few hours of walk from civilisation, not a bad thing at all, but we want to be prepared in terms of familiarity with the area, exit points in case of an emergency, planning days or fewer options in terms of Division (divide the days more than one option, obviously), etc.

[QUOTE = leibman2] spot is a very good idea in my opinion. It also gives peace of mind to those who stayed at home in case of emergency there.

I only know this year few people who rescued them.

Going for it is a signal of roads and telephones, enough that you are injured and you can't take it anymore and you have to go 40 miles to Greece this for the final issue.

If you have a month, I recommend you try not to skip the purchase points, it's really nice to carry food for some days (especially when I have to put it into force bear boxes)

In relation to the weight of the case 7-8 pounds of equipment is not ultra Lite but not everyone should be ultra Lite:) Add one liter of water and 4 pounds of food so you pounds on your back as you come out even with the town of ULA is cool.


I don't see us carrying food all the time, mude given ten days. but probably double.
With the comments here about the equipment dry weight down to about 6 kg per person including a bear canister.
I didn't quite understand the comment about the ULA, on Israel carried the weight of about 40 pounds and had a backpack.
BTW-the only disadvantage being that person that if you fit a large lift capability. For that matter-18 kg is barely felt on the legs and back. (That's how it is when you go to a significantly higher self weight of 100 kg.)
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:57:37 PM(UTC)
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What I meant about the ULA is mine personally and especially after dropping a lot of weight on PCT (started and finished 77 67) ULA case CATALYST was uncomfortable 15th kilo area (including food and water)
But if you lay so cool:)

The Sierra is a one more bummed them in PCT it because we had time limits for return to Earth, not stayed more time there.
I think doing there maximum 12 miles a day, it would be very nice because I really have a lot of places you don't want to just keep walking away:)

And despite all this is iosmeti amazing and really nice, if you end the name take several days rest there:)
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