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#1 Posted : Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:31:24 AM(UTC)
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In the 31 (Aug) in Barcelona, and I wanted to get feedback/advice about the track.

The program is currently (at least the first part) is based on the following route:
Http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=zgiekoqmcyamzsnj


"0": accommodation in Torla on May 31 after a long flight.
Day 1: the itinerary tachlett ~ 11 after visiting information station/store. The Torla to goris (about 13 km).
Day 2: climb to MT. PERDIDO NATURAL and in the same way, then continue to stay at BRECHE DE ROLAND. If the power/time to type TAILLON (did you?)
Day 3: descending to the border (approx. 35.5 km e on map) near the PIC USING ENTRELIES. Away further East, to the South-going back to GR11 Torla.

Day 4: drive the rental car from Torla to GAVARNIE and walk to the waterfall.
I didn't want to combine with the above, because anyway I want to continue on with the car in France, and I didn't want to go back and forth too many miles or extend the track in a day.

What is your opinion?
2. be too hard?
Other suggestions?

This is what I have so far.

Unrelated questions:

A. where do rafting?
In places in the South of France to visit?
C. do the loop in ogostorts it is recommended or you can cut it? I have three and a bit nervous and for him.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:33:51 AM(UTC)
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Hello edu, gathered.

Day 2 is very long day or two unless you are in great shape.

Breche de Roland is not a cabin and advised to sleep there (and I quite sure it is prohibited), the nearest hut Col des Sarradets is in France (and I'd buy it in advance).

Order ahead at Goriz (might) that one of the busiest times in the Pyrenees (and out earlier in the day 1).

What is it about agoastorts three-day
The circular route takes 5 days.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:16:32 PM(UTC)
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There is a cabin not far from Breche de Roland, I saw that same name was referenced (indeed that the cabin is also close to Sarradets pic).

I'm going to buy today a place for both.

If you look at the map, you'll see that this is her day 2 to 4.5 km on it and PERDIDO NATURAL-4.5 km, 9 km to TAILLON and then another 3 km descent to the hut. Total 21 km with no characters.

If possible, cut in about 3.5 km climbing TAILLON (you can forego the climb to the top?)

Is in good shape (not great), but I think it's likely. It's a long day, but 20 miles in 10 hours, while fine weather should be fine.

Would love if you correct me. Ido3 41140.4286342593
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 1:12:03 AM(UTC)
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So let's fix you

You're not wrong, but forgetting that you don't go out for a walk in the hills of the Upper Galilee, less interested in distance and altitude differences than to move:

From goris (2200 m) to Monte Perdido (3188 m)-988 m and descent. From goris to GA de Rolan (2807 m) is another 607 m above it. De la tiilon, PA Rolan (3144 m) is another 337 m and decline, to serdts Dow da Rolan (2587 m) 220 m downhill.

Total you plan today to go to 1545 m, 32 m.
If you give up her tiilon it be 1595 m and 1208 m drop.

Now I'm not saying it's impossible, but you're going to be on the second day of your trip, I guess you don't have too much experience/fitness walks in the mountains (overseas of course) and I also want to do every once in a while a tail slate for food/water/photographs/just to stare at the scenery.

In short, I doubt that 10 hours if you do this and if so I doubt enjoy it and correct me if I'm wrong, that the purpose of the trip?
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#5 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 2:49:47 AM(UTC)
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Ido strengthens what me said.
It is a good idea to change phase and realize that in assessing the difficulty and time measured by the high profile rather than horizontal distances.

Anyway, for ambitious days should plan alternative relief/shorter.
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#6 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 12:47:04 PM(UTC)
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The account is so inexperienced traveler-time to go 300 meters height difference

To medium-400

Running 500

Not measure distances.

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#7 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 1:16:24 PM(UTC)
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According to this account, the young oak is already the medium age 7 +:

[QUOTE = nthei]

... What kids have to say, good friends. Call Ripley's! mtiki, and secret and I dare not disturb them. They look on the colored sands ov e 126

And admiring the beauty. Presently we are bottom up animals is known as one of the steep sections and keys altitude difference approx. 300 m to a mile.

Another Cup of tea, a small sandwich and start climbing. Well, it depends, but you define. The Baker, his son and my oak Open burners went upstairs

Leaping poetry of 55 minutes.

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#8 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 10:52:00 PM(UTC)
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Last year, climbing from first day Triglav ~ 600 m to 2500 meters below the Summit Hut (think something like 25 miles) and took about 10 hours.

But I have to say it was excellent weather.

-> On tiilon, I realized I was going to pass.

I expect to climb harder (more, higher than atriglev) but I think quite possible in 10 hours.

The backup plan would be to do tiilon + Roland if unpleasant weather will stall.

I don't think too many other options to track (Return to goris and wait there the next day to go to Roland??)

Some recommended ogostorts course?
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#9 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 11:01:50 PM(UTC)
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Incidentally, the Perdido requires special equipment and ropes/climate/helmets (except if ice crampons)
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#10 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 11:17:44 PM(UTC)
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In August and September to Perdido doesn't require anything beyond strong legs.
Your plan to climb to goris Perdido and return to goris is not successful.
There are other options. Look at the map. You can get to the Lake and sleep in rafiog Marbore isn't staffed Tuquerouye
Then the next day to complete the cycle to move through rolden Gavarnie
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#11 Posted : Monday, August 20, 2012 11:46:19 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ido3] last year climbing Triglav on the first day from ~ 600 m to 2500 meters below the Summit Hut (think something like 25 miles) and took about 10 hours.


I expect to climb harder (more, higher than atriglev) but I think quite possible in 10 hours.

1900 m on it took you 10 hours, but don't forget what 1550 ' you intend to lose it.

Some days you have to agoastorts?

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 12:54:47 AM(UTC)
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"If you give up her tiilon it be 1595 m and 1208 m drop"


To agoastorts-prefer 3 days, can squeeze a little more if you really should.

I also just skip the daily trip in Andorra (around the three lakes?)

And maybe another day trip in southern France.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 8:21:57 AM(UTC)
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No it's not to just tiilon, I'd forego the Perdido and tiilon, but he may lower his position better and gives you a view of both sides of the border.

At agaustorts, you can cross the Park from coming to espot (kolomers North or South-South kolomina gone but it's filled with beautiful lakes and should be), you can cross from whyalla to espot Valley (via kolomers). All days long, you may want to add people to side trips, and they abound.
A little more challenging would be the circuit (I believe you need to add another day and some days might be longer or having to using taxis espot).
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:31:16 AM(UTC)
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In agaustorts I have to circle back to the rental car (or motorbike)

Thank you..

Incidentally, there's something recommended for southern France (little gbarni North/East)? The two-three-
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:34:04 PM(UTC)
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Possible itineraries: agoastorts

3 days round trip in the southern part (about 15 km per day):
1. espot to kolomina
2. kolomina LEUNG (Llong)
3. Jung to espot

3 days round trip in the northern part (first two days, using taxis-should check their availability before departure):
1. espot to taxis, amitg amitg to foot kolomers (you can go to Tok de rtera)
2. kolomers to ventosa (side trip can be combined with circus kolomers)
3. St. ventosa maurycy, away back in the cab or on foot to espot

3 peripheral days (more challenging):
1. taxi to John Mary blank, to Yong
2. can Myeong kolomers
3. St. kolomers maurycy and espot by taxi or on footwith me41143.9181828704
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 11:53:55 PM(UTC)
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You can forego Anisclo Mall? Or worth emerged?
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:02:04 AM(UTC)
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The aniscalo, usually combine it with Ordesa
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, August 22, 2012 9:43:25 PM(UTC)
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I'm in a similar situation and find circular route ogostorts, the problem is that I can't seem to find details on connecting to llong colomina. Anyone can give some details about the track? Hard Beautiful? Marked?
Thanks a lot!
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#19 Posted : Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:14:48 AM(UTC)
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Here's a map and graph the height of a section:

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#20 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:40:48 AM(UTC)
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I'm going at the end of September to the Pyrenees. I try to avoid circular route-does anyone know how to help transport a dead to Torla?? I prefer to travel without a car.
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