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netaraveh1  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:49:49 PM(UTC)
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We travel to the Pyrenees late September early October.
The initial design was to make a three-day trek in the Park and after 3 days agoastorts in Ordesa.
The route planned in the Ordesa was under someone's forum description: horse tail falls turla and goritz, away through Roland to gooarani and from there through a mall in oachralo back to Torla.
At the moment it is go after the French side, and probably get anyway to gourani.
I'd love to alternative proposals for two or three Ordesa not crosses into France or French Park (which is more beautiful?), which runs overnight cabins.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:54:21 PM(UTC)
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Or is it better to do 2 day trips? If yes where? Seems to be with the car.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 1:24:37 AM(UTC)
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We plan to travel the same route at the same time, but stuck with whatever comes.

Assuming that you travel by public transport-how do you get a agoastorts to Ordesa?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 2:41:47 AM(UTC)
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I also got stuck with interest.
Because it is currently hiring planning across the car.
According to my calculation, only the rotation of iiguastorts-Barcelona and Barcelona Ordesa will cost 190 euro coaches (.).
I found a car rental for the week at $ 130.
You might want to consider.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:42:10 AM(UTC)
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A bus runs from around the agoastorts Park. You can reach the surrounding towns to lleida (alsa company). From there take a bus to barbastro then to torla (alosa).

BTW I recommend to stay in agoastorts and extend the Trek (at least in the eyes of a sevenfold Ordesa?).

Netaraveh1, where did you find a car at 130 dollars a week (it sounds very profitable!)? It is important to consider both the fuel and the end of May and a short drive to the car at the starting point.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:52:33 PM(UTC)
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Rentalcars.com website, they do price comparison between local agencies and bring you the cheapest price.
The rent would be from Barcelona to Barcelona.
I don't think I can extend the Trek as Greece already booked cabins (I do a espot to oiaiia).
There are still proposals to track-Ordesa Or even 2 days itineraries
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#7 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:55:16 PM(UTC)
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Or do you recommend to go to the boai and do a course? I don't think the Trek in my area (I sleep in and rstanka and sbordo going through kolomers but not to sleep there when Greece he closes the day before I arrived).
If so what route would you recommend?
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#8 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 6:20:03 PM(UTC)
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Carefully about the proposals and related conditions.
Personally not looking too thin, but since we landed 3 stingingly (2200 with 30 degrees at 3 p.m.) we looked for an escape route and prices were around 50 euros per day (of course without extras like GPS).

To none.
No pennies to the policy in about orders (the tent).
What got to know neighbor, shouldn't be a problem to change/disable date as long as the message.
B. about routes in Ordesa information station there are very specific. We arrived at noon to Torla and went to refuge equina goriz waterfall way, something like 4 hours "blessing".
On the second day through France to breca de rolando, refuge and in difficult serradets East adjacent to the cirque de gavarnie. The next day we went on the HRP to refuge on baysssellance I want to go back to the car.
If so, is there an option of Gavarnie vallee de pouey aspe, way beyond bujaruelo and from there to the town itself (camping there).













C. some small points regarding which you plan on agoastorts.
* Don't take a taxi from espot maurici Lake – GR11, light on and the beautiful forest and squirrels.
From refuge amitges took the Road North (Northwest) through to the saboredo rafiog. The road is not easy, but very pretty and follow closely the rogue especially when you exit reservation!
* Intimate saboredo refuge run by young, energetic and very polite!
One of the old summer camp near rafiog, and we have established a tent. We opened together פק"ל coffee in the morning and considers the recommendation in the HRP which connects to the refuge and we colomers South and North West of the GR11 base.
Although the long way (3 hours vs. two hours on the HRP) but amazing in its beauty and abundant in lakes.
* From HRP on restanca up to lac de rius. Two large lakes pass (de mar and port de rius), empty and beautiful blue-blue and cold waters.

















Enjoy!
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#9 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 8:41:11 PM(UTC)
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Great picture dawn Does desire.
How the Pyrenees compared to thousands (TMB) in terms of cost, convenience, and even
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#10 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:07:05 PM(UTC)
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Oh, Oh ... Mercy!!! ...
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#11 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:47:03 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = namp] great picture dawn Does desire.
How the Pyrenees compared to thousands (TMB) in terms of cost, convenience, and even

At least compared to Alta via

The trails a lot less comfortable (lots of walking boulders, deterioration, etc) much more modest bunk (really!)

For me also the less impressive but it's really just a matter of taste.

Sunrise in the mountains above Lake rstanka. The lake itself another night.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:52:55 PM(UTC)
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Daybreak, good pictures!

How was
When did you get back?
What circuit did?
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#13 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 2:18:32 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the tips.

Which the images being uploaded?

Is there another route proposed in agoastorts (and some book cabins for him?)

Plus I'd love to track not the Ordesa border to France as Greece was going to go with the car.

ד"א the track I thought not marked?

It is important to note that I prefer routes marked, at least in most of them.

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#14 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 9:30:35 AM(UTC)
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NetA,
The image is from rstanka edges agoastorts Lake (Northwest edge)

Read hereI offered three pathways of 3 days agoastorts (down is winning the game).

Ordesa is saved is small and if you want to keep the car in Torla options. beyond the border.

A sensible solution would be to Monte Perdido, but it won't take you 3 days.



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#15 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 7:28:35 PM(UTC)
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This track sounds good to me:

3 days round trip in the northern part (first two days, using taxis-should check their availability before departure):
1. espot to taxis, amitg amitg to foot kolomers (you can go to Tok de rtera)
2. kolomers to ventosa (side trip can be combined with circus kolomers)
3. St. ventosa maurycy, away back in the cab or on foot to espot

Is it marked?
Is he better off from espot to oiaiia?
Does anyone know how to change the order bikatot?

About this thread, registered Ordesa something on tiilon mountain.
Is worth the climb? What type of height and goritz nice way back
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#16 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 8:15:15 PM(UTC)
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Should I do the course offered here (Torla to gawarani) and dispense with the car to France? It would certainly save me money because they charge 300 shekels on the crossing for two or three days.
And save time by goodbye to Google takes about 3 hours with all of Greece.
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#17 Posted : Friday, August 31, 2012 8:30:11 PM(UTC)
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You didn't tell us anything about fitness? Gear Experience?

Not a track for everyone and it's late September early October season is problematic and needs to follow after.

The tiilon is located on the border, is about 950 m, goris and recommended type weather.

If your intention is to go to France to visit Gavarnie then would border on foot (there are several options not sure they fit you and of course depending on the weather) and added daily.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, September 1, 2012 2:10:05 AM(UTC)
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Noam-SA received a very specific and part of the Pyrenees.
From testifying as therapist in General and make comparisons based on truth.
I can say from my personal experience the HRP seat itself poor quality (if you can call for free and monstrous boulders trail).
However, when we went on the GR10 hiking or 11 quality was excellent (again, I don't know if that characterizes the trails each length-ask the experts "Pyrenees"-me, Arthur).

-Room and Board cost at rafiog very similar to the Alps.
There is no comfort in rafiog but we drank beer/hot chocolate every now and rafiog seemed far less developed in terms of infrastructure compared to it is available to travellers at TMB (e.g. rafiog ' baysssellance bulls and services there are no showers at all) on the other hand, the people who run them have always been very nice and welcoming.

With first I owe you thanks!!
About-routes went to travel and then to Gavarnie turla on HRP until lscon. Unfortunately planning to separate from reality. Fell on heat wave that left us crazy sweaty nights at 2700 feet. With 30-35 degrees and sun beating down at 3-4 pm!
The route we did was.
1. the rafiog ' goriz turla
2. way to Gavarnie goriz refuge serradets East and overlooking the gavarnie cirque to town.
3. baysssellance for refuge in gavarnie
4 baysssellance toward the wallon temperature not ashamed August in Amud stream.
At this point we estimate light mode the temperature expected in the coming days and went to panticosa GR11 on the understanding that we have to wait for reasonable weather.

Three days of round sky cities returned us to the aguestortes weather likely certainly the assumption that shorter days and rest during the hottest hours if required. The actual heat wave tone, and even got to experience two nights of rain and thunderstorm and lightning. The track we made here (and elsewhere).
1. espot to refuge saboredo
2. Lake saboredo monges refuge through gr 11.18
Three rius, monges de Lake through beautiful variant of the HRP
4. de rius arties and town to vielha

Very helpful, with little restriction with regard to views and weather-feel better around mid-July to make the most of what we have to offer from both points of view (the view in some very August drier).

Netarnave-pictures of the two tracks we did (the first set from Torla and Gavarnie and the other from the northern part of the agoastorts).
I suggest you answer important questions raised with me, then we can help.

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#19 Posted : Saturday, September 1, 2012 3:19:46 AM(UTC)
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I'm out of shape is amazing (but I didn't really like this 23-year-old out of shape).
A year and a half ago I returned from a tour of seven months in South America that included a few treks (Torres del Paine, alpmayo in Peru, and some less famous) it's all anecdotal.
-Weight concerns (and I am a pretty small) prefer to carry as little as possible.
In South America the first 900 feet and climbed down one day and it was the first time in my life and I was really out of shape (right after recovering from mono) so I know it's possible for me, and that's roughly the upper limit (it was really hard).
The other treks I couldn't measure how many went.
I travel with a friend of mine is a little more experienced and a little more in shape and of course could carry more.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, September 1, 2012 3:58:06 AM(UTC)
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Another important thing to note-none of us have experience in navigation, so I prefer routes.
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