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moonshine007  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:36:22 PM(UTC)
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I have no experience, but it sounds very challenging, and it's something I want to try!
I was wondering if anyone has recommendations from personal experience or heard of anyone who tried. I have no problem with, but I have no knowledge of content, so it must be taken into account.

Thank you
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:23:13 AM(UTC)
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Do basic alpine climbing course and start thinking about something.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:52:57 PM(UTC)
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1. Ecuador can hire guides to climbing the mountains where (tingroia or something like that) which I seem to recall that height over 5000 m.

There is another option to climb Mount kotpexi, one of the active volcanoes in the world. (5,897 mm) Ecoles climbing up part.

2. guided types have a funeral. An active volcano.

3. in Argentina you can climb to the highest mountain akonkagwa in South America (6962 m) does not require technical climbing but have a lot of discretion, and equipment to cope with cold climates.

I suppose more options

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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:24:58 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks to you both!
arthur  
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:37:45 PM(UTC)
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Akongwaa is the highest mountain on every continent, not only in South America-6964 m
Where have you heard that you can get on it without climbing I'm not familiar with that route.

Of course, Google moonshine?. You'll find some tutorials with Israel taking a group once a year and pass the course.
The issue isn't cheap, and the equipment is very expensive.
Very hard to start climbing mountains in Israel because we don't have those and if you want to be good, you have to make relocation abroad the truth hurts I know today. Arthur 41214.4477662037
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#6 Posted : Saturday, November 3, 2012 8:34:44 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
I climbed the Cotopaxi (volcano with crater). Mandatory (legally) take a guide for two forms.
You should not save and take a serious company with management.
They usually also give you all the equipment you need.
The climb takes a few hours a night and come to the top in the morning. We in the region 1 and need to arrive at dawn or not long after getting off pretty quickly that snow/ice heats up and melts. The very rapid decline (if I remember right down the other way).
The whole experience, I didn't experience any alpine climbing (climbing, bouldering), and made some "crash course" on the day before departure. "It's kind of" big night, more practice ice climbing with crampons and what to do in an emergency.
But then we don't have experience in height before!!!
The climb begins in some immigrant 3800 area cabin and sleep there until midnight or so, and then begin the climb itself, with flashlights.
If you have any questions happy to answer,
Omar.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:46:49 AM(UTC)
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Has Bolivia (La Paz area) and houerz (Northern Peru) dozens of Ministers at all levels, is a very simple technique one day of training to learn a bit, should know a little bit more. All it takes is to reach these places, hang out in the city and fill all types organize agencies. Generally what happens is you go all night and at dawn to the top. One of the most amazing experiences. Elevations are the sibobot 6000 meters.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:53:59 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = arthur; 565916] akongwaa is the highest mountain on every continent, not only in South America-6964 m
Where have you heard that you can get on it without climbing I'm not familiar with that route.

Of course, Google moonshine?. You'll find some tutorials with Israel taking a group once a year and pass the course.
The issue isn't cheap, and the equipment is very expensive.
Very hard to start climbing mountains in Israel because we don't have those and if you want to be good, you have to make relocation abroad painful truth I understand today, arthur 41214.4477662037

Local guides to akonkooh?

Artur you probably don't know this continent well at all. Would rather kill himself than dating an Israeli Guide ..., also financially and technically one too.

Dating site to climb only with locals who know and are familiar with.

Not anywhere on this continent technical climbing is required not Europe tropical latitudes the snow line has a much higher place you can reach 6000 as written without even climbing and places very technical climbing alpamayo e.g. case-by-case basis.

There are instructors in Casa de Geass in hoarez there are lots of courses that can be done but before the climbers need to find someone who knows about snow and collapse killed two Israelis on the alpamayo climbing due to landslides so that most serious demand to find a guide who knows the signs of collapse and avoid them and so forms.

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#9 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:36:59 PM(UTC)
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I didn't say we were going to climb in South America with Israeli guides-although obviously it's possible. An experienced mountain climber can climb anywhere and can make the adjustments required. This ability and technique that can be applied on all types of lift.

Local guides said that climbing courses abroad, Georgia.

I'm not familiar with local guides, I suppose there's a great amateur endanger themselves and their customers. Like everywhere in the world.

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#10 Posted : Saturday, March 22, 2014 3:12:00 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = arthur; 578692]

I didn't say we were going to climb in South America with Israeli guides-although obviously it's possible. An experienced mountain climber can climb anywhere and can make the adjustments required. This ability and technique that can be applied on all types of lift.

Local guides said that climbing courses abroad, Georgia.

I'm not familiar with local guides, I suppose there's a great amateur endanger themselves and their customers. Like everywhere in the world.

Filtering is based on the reviews in the kses books, hostels usually incredibly accurate numbers only need to take into account that the guides are great but the technology sourcing and landslides.

The bottle neck is predictive technology, for example, France has technology and still has enough not to use it see the avalanche on Mont Blanc summer 2012, the biggest problem with directory, you can open a discussion about the delegation of Rob Hall, Director for aurest discussion feature to tired, even in the movies, who enters the field need to be aware of the problem.

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#11 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 1:25:56 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = naty_h; 578851]

[Quote = arthur; 578692]

I didn't say we were going to climb in South America with Israeli guides-although obviously it's possible. An experienced mountain climber can climb anywhere and can make the adjustments required. This ability and technique that can be applied on all types of lift.

Local guides said that climbing courses abroad, Georgia.

I'm not familiar with local guides, I suppose there's a great amateur endanger themselves and their customers. Like everywhere in the world.

Filtering is based on the reviews in the kses books, hostels usually incredibly accurate numbers only need to take into account that the guides are great but the technology sourcing and landslides.

The bottle neck is predictive technology, for example, France has technology and still has enough not to use it see the avalanche on Mont Blanc summer 2012, the biggest problem with directory, you can open a discussion about the delegation of Rob Hall, Director for aurest discussion feature to tired, even in the movies, who enters the field need to be aware of the problem.

Choose climbing guide according to recommendations of other travelers who don't have a clue what they're talking about? Doesn't sound like a great idea.

If you're talking about a lot of avalanche UDI in 12.7.2012 so there was no warning of the danger of avalanche. Mountain guides, I know those actually used mosmeki and IFMGA. I wish there were a lot of them in South America.

You can really open here in a big discussion about death on Everest, but I don't think he's a good example of the late Rob Hall to an unreliable Guide.

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#12 Posted : Monday, March 24, 2014 1:40:53 PM(UTC)
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Actually the Mont Blanc had known decreasing wind strength and the amount of snow that was on top who concluded that existing risk an avalanche apparently not male or not between the classes.

Leave a comment for Rob Hall is not appropriate for this forum discussion, krakover treated in הרחבה12 pages for events that occurred there.

About the construction of index numbers has many serious climbers who come to the Mainland and they recommend hard to say they don't know what they're talking about.

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:03:06 AM(UTC)
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With Arthur.
1. one of the most important things when choosing a guide is to have the IFMGA certification.
It is the international standard for high mountain guides and distinguishing serious guides charlatans.
2. approach to any problem to climb mountains of 5000-6000 feet in Peru "is fatal.
High mountains are a hostile environment, and we as Israelis (as Arthur noted) have no understanding of what's happening (snow, glaciers low temperature), and should treat it seriously and realize that the world needs to learn slowly and carefully.
3. serious climbers who come to South America probably won't need to hire a guide (because they're serious forms) so must not rely blindly on recommendation hostels. There is no substitute for asking to see some of the Guide.

I wouldn't recommend anyone (no previous mountaineering experience) to attempt to climb a mountain himself in South America (nor after "crashes"),
And I would recommend to check who the good guide, what and where experience qualification.
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:25:51 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Jonathan but I'm not sure you understood my point.

The most important thing he's climbing guide would be good not to have such certification. But here we encounter a problem: How do we know who?

I never said that he has no guide IFMGA certification of is not good. On the other hand, I can say with certainty that the certification is a very serious person. Personally I can say it was a mandatory criterion in choosing a climbing guide for youngster and a lot of people I know.

I don't know what the situation in Peru because my daughter and I climbed there, but from what I hear there's more hapries.

If person X doesn't understand, he gets hard to know what the nature of directory without any formal reference.  BTW-no disrespect that climbing Israelis?

Annually, I truly believe you think experienced climbers leave recommendations for climbing guides lodges.

About the landslide in lots of UDI-I just don't agree with you, I think you're wrong. She really collapse came without warning. And some people still think it is caused by human factor. There is another popular opinion on Wind Slab collapsed. Another thing which can't be any.   In fact no man I talked to said area of Leningrad had landslides.

Http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9394297/Climbers-triggered-Mont-Blanc-avalanche-which-killed-three-Britons.html

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:59:48 PM(UTC)
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Don't think even know the climbers themselves, and know where and how references left, I know this very continent.

About Mont Blanc to get private messages I've read quite a bit about the events there.

arthur  
#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 1:42:28 AM(UTC)
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Let me get this straight, now you're talking about people who are experienced in technical peaks rise on renters local guides in South America? Not for people who want to do a Trek on peaks. Give me an example of a mountain requires a guide. I think we are not talking about the same thing when we say "type".

Solid information about avalanche atrot had on lots of UDI in 2012, I would like to receive information. It breaks all the information I've received so far from people I consider very reliable.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:54:40 PM(UTC)
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Again underestimate Israeli guides
Vice versa.
I think if someone wants to enter the world of climbing (or alpine)
There are some advantages to taking Israeli Guide and course.
But when abroad (in particular in South America), and you have no idea, and you don't know, and you don't have a background in the field,
IFMGA diploma gives any guarantee.
It is clear that specific directory could still be bad, and the personality of the instructor,
But when we do not know, should be safe. Personal impressions and recommendations are in second place.

It's my opinion.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:45:22 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = arthur; 578930]

Let me get this straight, now you're talking about people who are experienced in technical peaks rise on renters local guides in South America? Not for people who want to do a Trek on peaks. Give me an example of a mountain requires a guide. I think we are not talking about the same thing when we say "type".

Solid information about avalanche atrot had on lots of UDI in 2012, I would like to receive information. It breaks all the information I've received so far from people I consider very reliable.

Alpha Mayo as needed to understand, while I was there began to climb as far as I know a guy named Tamir Shlomi was the first ' 91, people leave the books explain what they did with who called and recommendations, manuals and courses.

Mont Blanc check weather conditions that prevailed there for several days before and on the day of avalanche check what was the amount of snow that fell before check would wind a few days before that day what was Greece, check the archives and you leave what people say, when conditions so no avalanche debris.

arthur  
#19 Posted : Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:11:14 AM(UTC)
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Yes, it's definitely alpamio.  The track is considered even the simplest-the Ferrari Crest (AD +)-it's a mix of snow and ice rapidly. Maybe he does have something to talk about hiring a local guide-I'd prefer at least to guide phase of walking up the mountain instead of looking myself for days in the krovasim field.  Beyond that-if you don't know what you're doing you guide.

Agree and disagree with you on this issue. when conditions for avalanche can still occur due to one factor. Or tectonic activity in the area. A thousand things can affect this. You only "natural" side of the natural conditions of the others cooking snow until the formation of a State.

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