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fren21  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31:18 PM(UTC)
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Hey, Hello everyone,


Me and a friend are planning a trek in the Pyrenees about 9 full days in mid-August. We intend to sleep in tents, both budget reasons and a desire to experience more "free".
And we have two days to transitions (plus three days in Barcelona)

The initial design was slammed 10 days in a row, starting from any point and advance her 10 days on the GR11 route of guess.

But following read-Forum (all posts that include Pyrenees) and some on the Web, I started thinking that maybe it's better to do a course of 4-5 days in igoastorts then go to Ordesa, Torla-Ronald goorani circus fire her/and finish in Torla and Barcelona.

I looked at the websites of the companies buses and I fear that switching from benasque to torla might take something like their day. What kinda bums me out.

Anyway, I try to minimize my questions more clearly

-Rides in the Pyrenees? Message reading didn't really stop.
-It is recommended that the French side? A day or two?
Goorani circus- And it is worth?

-Are there any recommendations for any course.
Is it better than a reserve igoastorts and take vilaa bus to Torla or advance on GR11?

BTW-no matter where we start, probably deriving decision תחב"צ considerations.
Considered to rent a car, but I have only automatic license cost the price significantly and I don't think my girlfriend would love to drive alone everything.

BTW 2: we are very aware of the issue of weight, probably cut down everything to minimum (trousers, 2 shirts, fleece, toothbrush and toothpaste) and eat only dry food.

Thanks, I'm happy and would appreciate any answer.

Many thanks in advance!



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netaraveh1  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:21:55 AM(UTC)
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We made a trip there in a rental car, so I don't have much to say about the crossings, I met people who did them.
If you can reach the Ordesa I highly recommend a route that we were going to do:
Walk through the Valley of Ordesa and equina and Refugio goritz, serdt, walk up to the hotel gooarani and back through the Mall I forgot his name.
Another option is what ultimately made a breakthrough in Greece were snow-go for the gooarani shopping mall, sleeping there and return by the same route the next day.
The track was very beautiful, I'm sure that I had planned from the beginning more beautiful if possible (through the head de Roland), and gooarani is highly recommended if you're in the area.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:23:22 AM(UTC)
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However the track was really hard, and we were without a tent.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:30:55 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = netaraveh1] However the track was really hard, and we were without a tent.


The name is indeed beautiful, but very difficult rpoachia goritz can catch how the track in question is currently open, you better check with Beatrice or her husband speaks English can now start their journey from kadnzzo or pormigal and continue East through oacharlo to Torla.

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shaharellert  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:00:28 AM(UTC)
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The pass is open. No problem to do the track about recommended NetA. Scroll down and even has similar threads. We did it last year and it is beautiful.
naty_h  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:51:36 AM(UTC)
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What everyone writes but less specific treat your question maybe because it's been on this side or were in a rental car is a very beautiful way.

To treat the waste of time in my opinion pormigal mountain or Saint kadanzzo de giigus or more accessible than Torla.

Worth a small study but the main point is if you want to save time you'd probably go straight to the West as a starting point and continue East.

Easier time to get from West to East than East to West,
At least according to the blog photos shows that they record in the area specified.
Pormigal kadnzzo Saint giigus de.

If you find yourself at the start of the East region is very isolated Val de Aran and ialaa and public transport to Aragon Torla is crossing the Red Sea. Naty_h 41478.9529976852
shaharellert  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:58:26 PM(UTC)
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A few answers to specific questions:
A. we've come to sabinanigo and planned to take away rides to torla. After an hour or two (don't remember exactly, but long) kind of gave up. It's been there dozens if not hundreds of cars nobody stopped.
At the end of the camp there and met Israeli family who left the Torla (stephano them).

2. I think the French side prettier and less dry. Gavarnie circus is impressive. I recommend.

If you have a car, I'd recommend one route as specified. To get between the big hit is not a waste of time and money.
BTW, not all that long, 325 km to Torla. In return it because you leave the agoastorts. In my opinion worth considering vehicle.
HarmonicWave  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:13:00 PM(UTC)
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Don't be afraid of-topic not so long travel, and could be the Navigator (as in Rally racing if you know).

Without car-not sure I'd try to cover both.
fren21  
#9 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:48:21 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks to everyone!

Then the mobility between your experience better than that is really very difficult to impossible without a car?

There's a reason not to stop in?
Later even than I checked the sites of companies not so accessible to achieve both, we arrive at 9:00 and had high hopes that we can get up for lunch and a little.

-Then safe to leave your car in the garage in Torla//and//ilha espot for 4-5 days unattended?

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 24, 2013 10:06:43 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = fren21]

-Then safe to leave your car in the garage in Torla//and//ilha espot for 4-5 days unattended?



Not really. Anyway do not leave objects that appear in the attractive.
fren21  
#11 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:49:08 PM(UTC)
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Another question-this car in Torla//Marvel is in charge? Parking problem?
fren21  
#12 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:20:47 AM(UTC)
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Another question-one of my greatest concerns in case of renting a vehicle, other than an accident-theft or burglary or something similar.

I have a fear that if we leave there car unattended parking lot 4-5 days. Someone had left there and can give an experience? Thank you! :)

If we take this insurance about $ 150 and its nature
fren21  
#13 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 5:46:19 PM(UTC)
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Hey,
I'd love for consultation regarding runway started getting ego Park "slammed" Chariots of fire "and preferences later hitchhiked to Torla and a three-day course.


1. from the airport take bus to ESCOLA 45-11-1930 and from there ride to espot.


Do Carros De Foc Trek five days. Is there a recommended treks that also take 4-6 days

To hitchhike from espot to Torla. Here I read that someone wrote that she had to hitchhike and got to talk to somebody who says no problem.
Just the possibility of thrust is very problematic.

Depending on time left to travel 2-3 days in Ordesa.

Recommendation for any course we recommend three and a half days in Ordesa?

Turla and take a bus to Barcelona via rbstero.

And consulting a hotplate.
We're going hiking with tents and we, two girls, I think we should give up on a hotplate and the weight of a hotplate and carry only dry food, eat something hot. My friend says I should get a hotplate.
What do you think is better?

Many thanks!

Happy to help and guarantees to return later with a detailed logistics reporting and pictures!
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shaharellert  
#14 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 6:14:57 PM(UTC)
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Start end-once I gave in to the blowtorch and regretted it.
Two reasons:
1.-as to make coffee/tea when and where you want. Cooking experience is an integral part of the trip and a fun evening as you get through your daily walk.
2. If פק"ל components-minimal is not really hurt you.

Not just goading you to rent a car-rides, problematic stretch prices aren't cheap (on car rentals), frequency of buses is not high. Re-read the thread, if there is one long track.

About the routes that were recommended here before-read here
There's a recommendation for a course of 3-4 days in Torla and longer route at agoastorts.
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fren21  
#15 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 6:46:40 PM(UTC)
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Hey, thanks a lot!

It is, besides, the concerns and the added cost, car rental sites under the age of 25 in Spain has cost 10-20 euros per day, which makes it too expensive.

I don't want to do a course of 9 days in ego alone, we prefer to devote the day to drive/rides/Bull and also be realized the view Ordesa there and see.
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#16 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 7:13:41 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = fren21] Hi, thanks a lot!

It is, besides, the concerns and the added cost, car rental sites under the age of 25 in Spain has cost 10-20 euros per day, which makes it too expensive.

I don't want to do a course of 9 days in ego alone, we prefer to devote the day to drive/rides/Bull and also be realized the view Ordesa there and see.


Have a good time.
naty_h  
#17 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 8:28:07 PM(UTC)
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You have excellent public transport and possible solution if you combine
SALLENT DE GALLEGO to boacharlo and oacharlo rpoachia goritz directly:

Day 6 7 8 mirror GR11 blog is way two days you begin with Saint continue to boharlos and then to rpoachia and down to Torla goritz, oharlos's second day is hard indeed goritz only 15 km of 1300 feet, but let the other day yet in Ordesa:

The 6th day

Getting to Saint from sbininigo is possible and has the same bus company away Torla is the second option except though to barbastero through throwing, check if one is doing so if it aznshar so just looking for temporary trains Barcelona svinigo:

Saint sbiningo schedule

She sbininigo to rchbtherk from Zaragoza or Huesca or two buses Zaragoza Terminal.

Sbiningo trains

Trains Barcelona Zaragoza times and prices:
Buses in ELSA's site or

Bus rates around 15 euros
Bus tickets website
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Trains website


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INTERCITY
Turista Plus
Barcelona (Sants)
6:40 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
8:47 PM
21€


INTERCITY
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
6:40 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
8:47 PM
26€


INTERCITY
Turista Plus
Barcelona (Sants)
2:10 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
4:06 pm
26€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
9:03 am
Zaragoza (Delicias)
1:58 pm
27€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Passeig De Gr.
8:56 am
Zaragoza (Delicias)
1:58 pm
27€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
4:03 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
9:03 pm
27€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Barcelona-Fra ...
8:47 am
Zaragoza (Delicias)
1:58 pm
27€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Barcelona-Fra ...
3:47 PM
Zaragoza (Delicias)
9:03 pm
27€


R. EXPRESS
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Passeig De Gr.
3:56 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
9:03 pm
27€


AVE
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
10:20 am
Zaragoza (Delicias)
12:04 pm
29€


ESTRELLA
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
10:20 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
3:07 am
30 €


AVE
Turista Plus
Barcelona (Sants)
10:20 am
Zaragoza (Delicias)
12:04 pm
35 €


ESTRELLA
Preferente
Barcelona (Sants)
10:20 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
3:07 am
39 €


INTERCITY
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
2:10 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
4:06 pm
44 €


AVE
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
10:00 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
11:28 pm
47 €


ALVIA
Butaca Turista
Barcelona (Sants)
3:30 pm
Zaragoza (Delicias)
5:26 pm
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shaharellert  
#18 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 9:07:50 PM(UTC)
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Fren-age 21 to 24 is 4.5 euros per day up to a maximum of EUR 54 per. ..

I personally tniidati last year in the Pyrenees without between stored and therefore I try to highlight your eyes and talk by decision. Probably won't help. So good luck!!
fren21  
#19 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2013 9:22:09 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] fren-age 21 to 24 is 4.5 euros per day up to a maximum of EUR 54 per. ..

I personally tniidati last year in the Pyrenees without between stored and therefore I try to highlight your eyes and talk by decision. Probably won't help. So good luck!!




Dawn-you really hard to find rides? Where they find
And I thought that, if we raise, and sign with TORLA-30 EURO

Just driving is about 900 miles, about 100 euros roughly of fuel and car hire is about 250 euros with "young". A total of 350 euros.
Compared to EUR 125 תחב"צ that it is very expensive (Barcelona-espot//Torla Barcelona).

I already think it's better for us to offer money in Exchange for a ride.
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ylivny  
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:40:22 AM(UTC)
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Hello fren

About the track of Carros De Foc
This is a great course for five or six days (depending on the rate hike and the exact route you choose).
Than I was with guys from around here (I met them in in France), I learned there was a lot of snow too, and that weather some of the dirt roads that lead to the nearby huts were destroyed.

From what I understand is irrelevant regarding the approach from Espot but if you have no plans to end bouncing out of the Trek but the chalets I recommend to find out the status of "escape routes".

Another consequence of the exceptional winter may be snow in the passes.
If so, you need to make sure you don't need special equipment and in any case, it is highly recommended to go with a pair of walking sticks with snow baskets

About transport
I wasn't trying to get hitched in the area but my impression is that it won't be easy.
This isn't about other destinations along one axis. If you can't find a ride with a passenger in case they either directly to give you need a series of Ordessa rides relatively roads. It's an adventure that can take more than one day. Taken into account.

I understand that this car's problem so just add:
1) I left the car for a week in a parking lot of Carros del Foc and there was no problem.
2) remember that car adds flexibility. In the case of a short vacation can be.
3) distance from Esapot to 900 km but Ordessa is less than 250 km. Google claims it is on just over 4 hours.

About the blowtorch
Because you're going to sleep in the tent I think should therefore consider taking the blowtorch.
Keep in mind that raw food is usually easier than dry food (because of the weight of cooked food is water that you don't likemy humps on their backs). Furthermore, night temperatures significantly and eating hot food is very significant to the heating body.

Enjoy
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