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fren21  
#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:28:17 PM(UTC)
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Hi Jonathan!
Thank you very much,

Really hurt me with. I guess I consider some more, but for now the added cost + fear fatal car concern for תחב"צ/hitchhike.


The 900 km treated each a bit less travel, but roughly with constipation and tbrbroyoth.

And, haltheno to take at the end of a hotplate. We are both very quick and easy walk to the weight issue, so we decided that we could handle a hotplate and it will help us.

The round trip, and see the departure of Jacques.
shaharellert  
#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:51:15 PM(UTC)
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I wrote exactly where we tried to find a ride in one of my messages in a thread. Call her.

Secondly about the calculation:
A 10 percent off t computes for the route Barcelona-Torla-espot-Barcelona.
In my opinion, 800 km Ford Fiesta diesel manual (offered for female) not 100 euro (but less).
C. in the Ford Fiesta is 3 euros per day and 2.8.
D but I suppose you're right — each calculation pay 175 euros.

If you don't take the car-125 euro per person to stress when you are subject to the bus frequency (not good to say the least).
For example-bus from barbastro departs twice daily. There's a good chance you won't manage to get in one day to Torla.

I personally think the flexibility, convenience and time savings are worth a lot more than 50 euros per person for 10 + days. Shaharellert 41485.4110416667
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:48:36 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ylivny] Hello fren

About the track of Carros De Foc
This is a great course for five or six days (depending on the rate hike and the exact route you choose).
Than I was with guys from around here (I met them in in France), I learned there was a lot of snow too, and that weather some of the dirt roads that lead to the nearby huts were destroyed.

From what I understand is irrelevant regarding the approach from Espot but if you have no plans to end bouncing out of the Trek but the chalets I recommend to find out the status of "escape routes".

Another consequence of the exceptional winter may be snow in the passes.
If so, you need to make sure you don't need special equipment and in any case, it is highly recommended to go with a pair of walking sticks with snow baskets

About transport
I wasn't trying to get hitched in the area but my impression is that it won't be easy.
This isn't about other destinations along one axis. If you can't find a ride with a passenger in case they either directly to give you need a series of Ordessa rides relatively roads. It's an adventure that can take more than one day. Taken into account.

I understand that this car's problem so just add:
1) I left the car for a week in a parking lot of Carros del Foc and there was no problem.
2) remember that car adds flexibility. In the case of a short vacation can be.
3) distance from Esapot to 900 km but Ordessa is less than 250 km. Google claims it is on just over 4 hours.

About the blowtorch
Because you're going to sleep in the tent I think should therefore consider taking the blowtorch.
Keep in mind that raw food is usually easier than dry food (because of the weight of cooked food is water that you don't likemy humps on their backs). Furthermore, night temperatures significantly and eating hot food is very significant to the heating body.

Enjoy
Jonathan


You have a little extra, Jonathan

I was bkira the year shown in the signature.
14 feet of snow fell this year in the region in the coming vialaa to close the yard.

Because Kira is a combination of three ski resorts in one onhaigoh the snow height so it isn't wrong cable
And the site closed!

Kira Burt

When I was in the area Thursday may cut immediately because the Ordesa Park salardo was blocked with snow.
And the main point is:

True also that a lot of snow, just to get more snow than anywhere else in Europe and this year's check, I followed all year and that's why I went there actually.

If you want ask the landlady Merced of the hotel where I stayed in vialaa the pictures and the article describing what happened to the rename. Naty_h 41485.4514236111
fren21  
#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:48:48 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert] I wrote where we tried to find a ride in one of my messages in a thread. Call her.

Secondly about the calculation:
A 10 percent off t computes for the route Barcelona-Torla-espot-Barcelona.
In my opinion, 800 km Ford Fiesta diesel manual (offered for female) not 100 euro (but less).
C. in the Ford Fiesta is 3 euros per day and 2.8.
D but I suppose you're right — each calculation pay 175 euros.

If you don't take the car-125 euro per person to stress when you are subject to the bus frequency (not good to say the least).
For example-bus from barbastro departs twice daily. There's a good chance you won't manage to get in one day to Torla.

I personally think the flexibility, convenience and time savings are worth a lot more than 50 euros per person for 10 + days.


Hi dawn, thank you!

Pressure point is shifting from espot to Torla.

He's planning to take a bus from the airport to espot and one and a half hour stopover in LLEIDA for food and gas.

And take bus 17:20 brbstero turla to 19:15 and 19:50 to take away to Barcelona.

We want to start a espot to have time Carros de foc
And as long as we remain Ordesa (days/three).

From what I've seen that about 350 vehicles at roughly
Car 220 driver + 80 + 50.
The cheaper sites for rent saw that require on a full tank (then this variable cost).

The difference between euro 125 תחב"צ plus rides (even) compared with 350 is quite significant.
We're going to send emails to rental companies, see if you can pass on the young driver (soon to be 25)
fren21  
#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:15:06 PM(UTC)
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The dilemma that km

I have this bag Marmot Trestles 15
Http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/MT2385.html

Specified that its roughly 5 comport but I'm afraid he will be all too hot, and have more of the roughly ferrino for comfort 5-7 degrees.
shaharellert  
#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 5:22:20 PM(UTC)
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If those options go on the marmot. I was last year with minus 7 and sweating myself to death, but you can always open the bag and remove foot. With the second bag may have a cold it is also subjective.
fren21  
#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 6:39:06 PM(UTC)
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I suppose I could ask someone, although I don't like the idea of sleeping in a sleeping bag, although I have a silk liner I eve sleeps with him.
shaharellert  
#28 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:01:30 PM(UTC)
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7. comfort were enough, especially if you sleep in the clothes. The question is how reliable the rankings Perino (I don't know) and how you deal with.
HarmonicWave  
#29 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:14:40 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = shaharellert]
Secondly about the calculation:
A 10 percent off t computes for the route Barcelona-Torla-espot-Barcelona.
In my opinion, 800 km Ford Fiesta diesel manual (offered for female) not 100 euro (but less).
C. in the Ford Fiesta is 3 euros per day and 2.8.
D but I suppose you're right — each calculation pay 175 euros.
....


A waste of energy, they try to save all euros, which is fine.
I also don't understand how reached EUR 125 to public transport, and our fried guy called "time should price, but they seem to have decided.

At the end of both tstadrna.

Note the restrictions on camping in agwas torts.
With Perino may be cold, but no one can know for sure-it depends on many factors such as the weather, the quality of the mattress and tent, sensitivity etc. HarmonicWave 41485.6787962963
fren21  
#30 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:31:43 PM(UTC)
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No, no,
Not completely decided, we just try to decide each time the price goes up (now the young driver fees).
We also have the fear of driving (don't follow manual), emergency accident/theft. And car rental could add more worries.

And this תחב"צ 125
35 euros from Barcelona to espot.
25 euros from Torla to Barcelona (11-15, rbstero turla rbstero Barcelona).

From what I read on the forum too, even on the Internet and said people who hiked there. of both primarily on camping, not walk around at night Ranger and a problem with open tent and roll fast in the morning. We're also very tzomzzot and camping equipment (tent, designed to travel with only one basically).

Yes, I guess take the marmot, a condition that's too cold can pose a serious danger, unlike bread, maybe even go to sleep in and be great:)
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