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eduoxman  
#1 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:22:27 PM(UTC)
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Preparations for the Hawaii Vash in Peru

This summer we hike on ALTA VIA and not make a perfection to the TMB not done on holidays. Yesterday I bought 3 tickets to Lima, Peru's capital. My little girl went to the long trip to South America. She left two months ago and behind Argentina, Chile and Uruguay, and now she's in Brazil. Before Bolivia and in early April she crosses the border into Peru.

There to meet her, her mother and older sister and the family intends to follow the Hawaii Vash. It's her dream (and my little J), and the winning team was the next mission promoted TMB isn't easy at all. I remember the excitement for the TMB the maximum high is about 2500 meters in GRAND crossing FERRET.

The height of the Hawaii Vash 3500 meters range between 5100 meters altitude the oxygen deficiency, which can lead to altitude sickness, before starting the Trek should accustom the body to work a lighter concentration of oxygen (aklimatizatia).

We take advantage of the Passover holiday and get to South America on 3.4.2014 and get back on 25.4.2014. We have less than two months for the preparations and I intend to share this valuable forum members in the family experience from beginning to end, where you post journal I intend to write.

Initial information received from a colleague that he did the track in August 2013 for about 11 days. He referred me to my diary of Efrat Nakash. She performed the extended runway in 2008:

(I couldn't get the link, just search in Google by Efrat Nakash)

Efrat tells the young guide diary ?ngel kloph (Angel Callupe). Today he owns Angel trekking hoarez (from where the Trek) named enjoyhuayhuash there a highly recommended. My native language is Spanish, and managed with a few phone calls to Angel, Angel already way that charms me, relaxed speech rate and its soothing and other lawyers.

For company search on Google by name (I couldn't get the link)

Also, we already have several emails already before departure the trip, we got a draft Convention.

Our idea is to fly to Lima, country land and hop on a bus to take us to hoarez

(HUARAZ). My wife and I beamed in Peru (including Juarez) and therefore the emphasis this time is making the Trek and dive to depths of charming country on colors, habits and its people. We target guides: Hawaii Skunk. We left a few more days for the trip, if indeed they who use them, to explore.

After landing the transatlantic flight, bus from Lima to hoarez (?ngel recommended CRUZ DEL SUR bus company). The bus trip takes multiple hours (there is a possibility of flight but is of course more expensive). From Lima to hoarez pass the bus mountain pass at an altitude of 4000 meters and then descend to the Valley of Juarez and the city of Juarez at 3090 m. Staying in hoarez 2 days before we go for, while we make exploring the Juarez can get body height and less oxygen-rich air. These tours are part of the package you order from Angel and the place of accommodation.

On the fourth day we transport Angel arranges to LLAMAC town, about six hours ' drive, clean the CUARTEL HUAIN in camp and on the same day we walk around the camp, and in fact this day is also used for aklimatizatia day (total of 4 days of acclimatization to height).

In the next post, I will post the course proposed by the Angel, and another post I am going to start to write the list.

This means that you (the most experienced readers), and inquiries, will enlighten us all get out of ooooachim.

Eduardo

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eduoxman  
#2 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:33:56 PM(UTC)
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Sunday PRIMER DIA.  HUARAZ-CUARTEL HUAIN

ESTE PRIMER DIA HASTA EL CARRO IRIAMOS SOLO EN CAMPAMENTO Y HACER UNA CAMINATA PRIMER ALREDEDOR DE CAMPAMENTO, LA CUAL NOS ACLIMATACION TAMBIEN DE SERVIRIA.

CAMINATA: alrededor del campamento como aclimatacion

Monday, SEGUNDO DIA: CACANAN-QUARTELHUAIN PASO MITUCOCHA

CAMINATA DE 5-6 HORAS

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

TERCER DIA: day 3 MITUCOCHA PASO YANAC PUNTA CARHUACOCHA.

Con algunas variaciones para tener mejores vistas

CAMINATA DE 5-6 HORAS

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

Day 4 CUARTO DIA: CARHUACOCHA-PASO SIULA (TRES LAGUNAS)-HUAYHUASH

CAMINATA DE 8-9 HORAS

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

QUINTO DIA: HUAYHUASH-VICONGA campamento al lado de BA?OS TERMALES day 5

CAMINATA DE 4-5HORAS

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

SEXTO DIA: VICONGA-PASO CAMPAMENTO ELEFANTE e PAMPA CUYOC-No 6

CAMINATA DE 5-6 HORAS.

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

Day 7 SEPTIMO DIA:  ELEFANTE-PASO CAMPAMENTO PAMPA SAN ANTONIO LAGUNA JURAO

CAMINATA 5-6 HORAS.

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

Day 8 OCTAVO DIA: LAGUNA JURAO – AUQUIMARCA

CAMINATA 6-7 HORAS

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

En esta parte del camino al caminar con los burros se comete una infraccion con el ?rea de conservaci?n privada (formas de solucionar tenemos con los pagos por cada aproximado de burro 10 soles)

Day 9-NOVENO DIA: AUQUIMARCA – HUATIAC HUAYLLAPA.

CAMINATA:???

ASCENCION METROS: 1000

DESCENSO METROS:

Aclaro. En esta ruta no existe la laguna la cocha, barroso solo tenemos laguna susucocha

Day 10-DECIMO DIA: HUATIAC-LAGUNA JAHUACOCHA SUSUCHOCHA PASO YAUCHA.

CAMINATA:???

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

ONCE D?A: JAHUACOCHA-PASO SANBUNYA (RONDOY) – CUARTEL HUAIN O MATACANCHA – 11 HUARAZ

CAMINATA

ASCENCION METROS:

DESCENSO METROS:

HORAS DE BUS A HUARAZ:

12 DOCE DIA: Seria el d?a de usarlo para acortar podemos reserva o un camino o el dia 10 visitas a hacer o muy bonitos y lagunas miradores organizar una pachamanca (comida t?pica)

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#3 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:54:17 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo-if you have at the end of the process, a summary of the runway in Hebrew (General information, information, pictures, etc.)-I'd like to add that some of ה"מסלולים" on the site.

Good luck!

Amir.
io_travel  
#4 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 2:54:39 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo-thank you!!!

I will be watching with interest, that's for sure.

I heard about the Trek, but I'm not focusing on details. I just hope you're saving a place for him in high growth! From personal experience, it's really not a matter of fitness and there's not much to do but let the body acclimatize (how fat he wants/needs). I'm sure you already know. (This is Poland captured talking) but ... I really recommend taking diamox ormox/balls from Israel (and accurate usage guidelines family doctor)-no longer need.

And Amir-he writes-summary Why are we sending him there?  I'm sure it will be exciting video clip! (Eduardo)

eduoxman  
#5 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 4:41:02 PM(UTC)
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I'm not up to speed reactions.

Neither the requirements

Video clip, maybe. There is a problem of batteries that don't meet 11 days ... So keep, but possibly short footage (don't think I haven't thought about it). It's probably a matter of quantity, but also the battery source is a source. Will be fine. Documentation will be

Height: have family in Quito: 3000 m, and aklimatizatia?. There are no shortcuts, and indeed as you wrote has nothing to do with (any) to physical fitness, but time.

Taking pills, and challenge our greatness is an asthmatic and apparently allowed to take these pills, that they eliminate the symptoms of altitude sickness, but the disease exists, and it's dangerous. But with nitiiach see. I told her yesterday. For oxygen bottles.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:20:50 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo, good luck!
The ooaioos is one of the most beautiful hiking I've done!
Like I wrote it that route requires acclimatization, I recommend you to add several days of acclimatization. Makng a short Trek before ooaioos, the Santa Cruz (3-4 days) could be a nice idea.
Recommend to do the day trip to lagoon of churup mountain (Churup) also is a good acclimatization.
About balls-NAFTA idea, exactly for the reason specified.

About the Trek itself, I guess you go trekking with donkeys, like this (especially if either asthmatic.) I may want to go with a horse that can load about sick/injured.
When I did the track splitting with another group with a horse and donkeys, one of the people the other team spent three days in the saddle because of food poisoning.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:51:46 PM(UTC)
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Thanks to me.

For tips and fruitful dialogue and this is what I mean when I first post.

Unlike young Israelis Veterans (entirely without becoming arrogant), short trip we do, I'm not going to cut costs. (My little girl, as I mentioned just now making the trip after the army and to earn beer waiter made for storing heart is closer (more hidden sock).

We take Angel and ENJOYHUAIHUASH as I wrote, it won't be in terms of VIP, but compared to the company's terms.

Take a horse or donkey, and I build a plenum (breathing problems) you use it much (fun, we're not in the Navy. And I'm all for any help and there).

I've already talked to Angel falls on tent WC, kitchen, kitchen tent, guide, assessment of first-aid with radio or satellite phone.

In terms of cost, I think 12 days of the Trek including roundtrip transportation and two days of acclimatization, passing around the $ 400 per person. I think a fair price for. Angel is working with Israelis, and he wrote in Spanish: "after we know the amount of participants, I will give you the price, we're not overreacting," Spanish sounds much funnier.

Regarding immigration, was made Sunday to the hoarez, two additional trip (one of the other 69 Lake-both with Angel) and the fourth day is only the beginning of the Trek, and the construction of the camp, and the first day of walking is relatively easy. Looks fine to me. We have enough time so you can stay an extra day to hatakamot, instead of finishing the big Trek early, then complete the short trips.

In addition, daily treks will help us to test the equipment, that unlike TMB-here we have an element of lower temperatures, rain and snow. Except for height, this is actually my biggest concern.

The recommended period for which the Huay Skunk is from May to September, so mid-April is considered the edge of the season (winter), but angel tells me that it can be done, but I'm watching the snow passes. April's consideration is clear, my wife and I take advantage of Passover to take as little time off work.

BTW the Santa I Kurz suggested to Angel to do, but he said that two years ago was along the tmottot route which made it a less interesting, but probably more later and perhaps demand. I have an open account with this trek in 1985 started doing with my wife (we were young, beautiful and tomtamim) and started to walk without acclimatization. My wife got altitude sickness and had to descend immediately. Since I've been dreaming about.

Far: spare tips in every field. Hand writing.

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#8 Posted : Friday, February 7, 2014 12:52:59 AM(UTC)
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Eduardo,

You seem to be prepared with rigor and closed most of the details.

This is a beautiful course (I did the same in the other direction):


Also in my opinion four days to acclimatize it borderline (and after a long flight), but you might think otherwise. Note that you jump two jumps in the first aspect, hoarez and the other shahagaa in itself, and not simple at all (there are places that it's hard to get them to tiblzatia).

Lagoon routes 69 and/or single tracks of churup mountain lagoon are good days to prepare for (and beautiful in their own right). Try to do one. If you see you're wrong in terms of several days acclimation-reject the port.


A Casa di hoarez error can find information and maps (not loose track of blind distrust my own free guide map).

With insurance compulsory course rescue everyone.

If you have any tips, write. In the meantime, get another teaser:


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#9 Posted : Friday, February 7, 2014 3:14:33 AM(UTC)
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Good luck!
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#10 Posted : Friday, February 7, 2014 12:10:55 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo,

I'd give up kitchen, kitchen tent and a tent, but I can understand your choice.

Harmonix, with pictures

Actually I don't have much, I've been there when there was a lot of space on your memory cards, but one of the moonrise:

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#11 Posted : Friday, February 7, 2014 7:42:33 PM(UTC)
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Thanks salaams. The rmonich: the teaser I realized after I sweat? What's not clear to me whether this effects wash course, travelling large pods

Our planning of most people is that most of the equipment carried.

Acclimatization: taking my attention maybe add another day. Of churup mountain and 69.

Me: massacre and treats others: we "older people" in mind.

These treats can be very important at the end of the day, to sit around a table with chairs.

Offering Angel Guide to save costs and to take, but we make our food guide.

His answer: it's best to take a kitchen so that the manual can focus on customers (we ...) and it's nice the Cook goes with donkeys (sometimes in other ways)

And waiting with food and tents instead.

The only price: money. We are going for 3 weeks, so no need to athelb like a long trip of several months. Those considerations.

I thought about a lot of details, but a few days start dealing in equipment, clothing etc and after examining the equipment lists from various sources, start with questions.

Thank you.

io_travel  
#12 Posted : Sunday, February 9, 2014 6:22:11 PM(UTC)
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Charlie's story link Efrat Nakash:

Rotate Hawaii Vash

And link to tour Enjoy Huayhuash where Eduardo refers to:

Enjoy Huayhuash

Eduardo, please correct me if these links are not intended. Thank you

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#13 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2014 8:44:22 PM(UTC)
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Eduardo-surely this is a good side, but what? You'd be surprised but there are quite a few travellers make it self-sufficient (especially not Israelis).

I wanted (had equipment), but I can't find a partner, and my time was limited and therefore I group (of Israelis).

Wrap first day went to Austrian travel alone (the rest of the files that you see in the picture are veterans day).

The Khmer kitchen, making you the camp before you arrive is a real treat, but that means you can't see your gear for a day, and all you need (warm clothing, medicines, snacks) must be in a small bag that you need.

The horse should also join:

Incidentally, note that Efrat Nakash outdoor wind up the longer you guys (designed to connect you to join 4 days).

BTW 2, also my guide called Angel, I wonder if it's the same one (do you have a picture?)

If you have any further questions, then-it brings me to:

eduoxman  
#14 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2014 10:47:59 PM(UTC)
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Thanks to Alper on adding the links not.

Harmonix: teaser still unresolved. To do this trek with the gear on the back, and all the food around without support, it's not for me/us.

We want to do it in a way that suits us, and that means with all possible help. Indeed in the case today, all the warm clothing should be in it, including some food and water. You must close these details when we're there. Angel, ANGEL full name CALLUPE but I have no picture and the site of his company no.

Who have a lot of questions about equipment, but I'm not ready yet. First question though: how serious issues our equipment: our pods or pods a them also seemed resistant to water I'm also going to put Angel loads I note that make the Trek in mid-April, contribute seasonally. Whether to go with a stark and thermal gatecs is enough or need a more professional type of alpine climbing?

From above? 3 layers, short and long thermal SOFTSHELL micro fleece and trophy/thin rain? Coat should be aim of above with higher athimot like skiing?

To get bag, add Leiner and asked to bring blankets, and Angel asked me to bring a cookie aloninium is full of boiling water at night and "hot water bottle" night and drink during the day. I guess these bottles bought there.

It is for now.

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#15 Posted : Monday, February 10, 2014 11:23:55 PM(UTC)
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No equipment will be taken on in a backpack (which is convenient for loading on) but large jute bags (I think you can buy there).

The things are better flies, such as, you should wrap bags.

I went hiking on ordinary day (see attached image), but I traveled during the season and probably less sensitive than your family.

We should be blocking layer wind and rain, at least modestly. The track is exposed and you may have to go a couple of hours in the rain or even snow (us snowed once for a few hours).

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:41:46 AM(UTC)
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Thanks again, I begin to summarize myself because I might go with a trekking and maybe under intermittent thermal gatecs and more severe on the set just in case you get wet. Girls n + also storm pants rain/wind blocker. The truth is that bothers me less snow than rain. Keep updated. Thank you. Eduardo
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:35:07 PM(UTC)
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Costs:

Angel ENJOYWAYWASH company sent me a quote for 12 days of Trek and another three days of acclimatization (when traveling to locations in cars), and slammed himself with tents, mattresses and blankets, toilet tent, kitchen tent, dinning tent, and all the food, guide, clay and donkeys, and at least one horse, first aid (includes radio or satellite phone) on $ 443. It seems to me a great price.

Israeli travelers who make the Trek in eight days and fewer perks, pay around the $ 170 (only about 8 days trekking).

I think I'm going to go for it.

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#18 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:22:30 AM(UTC)
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Hello again everyone: the preparations are complete. A guide to advance through WESTERN UNION, ordered public transport from Lima, through hoarez MOVIL bus TOURS. (There are at least three companies that make this way takes about 8 hours) and their Web sites differently. This made booking online and spoke on the phone with their representative who confirmed that the order was placed successfully.
I ordered the hoarez for 4 days before the Trek.

In online searches and loitering hang up specified clip filmed in July 2011. Very clip illustrates the conditions vary not only from day to day but also during that day itself, which indicates the equipment that must be taken in the case today. The name of the track done in July (peak season) from the supposed to be rainy, snowy but less colder. We do this in contribute, so supposed to be raining (hope only afternoon) but less.
Http://www.youtube.com/w...ilpage&v=NxYfbNXTImU

However, after watching the video, we decided to get out of the wind/rain jackets, ski jackets (clumsy), course and storm pants several sets of all-purpose Gloves (ski, brass). These days I'm starting to make "the maggots" equipment and organize them on my little ' bed which is in South America. That's how I relax. Everything is ready and not miss a thing.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:23:05 PM(UTC)
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I haven't read it in depth but ...

Since I was there for two months in that area, I'm so glad you all were copious preparations but nothing that cannot be arranged, the best level possible.

The fire itself is not difficult hike provided that adapts beautifully to height and with the animals that accompany guaranteed no problem at all.

All the maps into the Casa de has Geass.

Most Israeli and Hebrew information at Casa hiimaz, Google's site in Hebrew Hebrew.

These ormanio, or down when she caught the bus companies, some are also secret Americano and even Cruz del Sur.

The dokadkim organisations can be arranged if desired, only Peru tourism infrastructure that ran ever can be reached by public transport into the gongelim it's not us that is very difficult to get public transport to somewhere else, so why bother?

About kitchen kitchen tent tent Guide Directory, etc. I personally wouldn't put up with it have only one tent.

Enjoy.

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#20 Posted : Saturday, March 15, 2014 11:22:26 PM(UTC)
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Nati: this is the difference between young and beautiful as you are and old people like us. We have a lot of time, probably not months to spend in hoarez (I die). When you have
All this time, you can adjust from there everything. But when you have 18 days in gross hoarez here to make a 12-day Trek, I can't leave any loose ends.
So I have everything to be invited and scheduled. For example: an order of hoarez from Lima could not have run the place, and then just went ...

But I guess you didn't understand this young: the world belongs to you, simply, in the flow. But still, give some respect to the elderly even doing trekking (not like) but still ...:)
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