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#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:13:41 PM(UTC)
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I can help atmanot water from mitzpe Ramon to Eilat.

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ארז-- First of all in the page, it takes more than five litres

After the dishon stream road into a river, where water drinkable. I filled there in September, so it is likely that good all year.

In the South, after a conveyor on the Tamar, the factory have differences of opinion about the many hours. I guess there's a guard while it is closed but I wouldn't rely on it if you're not in a period Holidays or something-there's cold water

Before. No water at all in a day's Mountain Creek to Fort Worth.

- In the area of Tel azekah to expect no water in the Holocaust of United Kingdom car parks (found only in one parking lot right in front of acanthus, Leon) only in

רון- Between Kfar giladi to Nabi yosha allow Mel t for a parking lot from the shepherds (and even dine For a small fee if it's available), appears in the Angel for I think.

The lime factory between Arad-Tamar-side you can rely on when it comes to water, Just Milan road water שחוצים מאיזה מכונית).

- On the phosphates of Arad near Phoenix Apache either side to rely on water. .

- About don't think watching eye can rely (at least without purification), but whoever jumps there. ממש פראייר.

- The soldiers at a small little exit to extractthe told us he occupied and allow To rely on always. - The factory always has water and Oron needs the that go into one of the booths close And fill out the nicest fresh albornts that you eat. (But first eye iorkeam sooner הסמוך)

- - Dani Gaspar told me not to trust the an eye, not trusted, but the water in the pool. The top (above the waterfall) potable but not taking responsibility.

- At night the back garage monitor caches (stinking water but still water) the number appears In Malachi, don't forget to update it much and thank him.

- - Don't skip sands covering as I heard people do crazy, and the only nice value On this day (shashbil off the road just before freedom)

- Also on the Lake not missing to go unanswered.

SUREAL -כל בית קברות יהודי = מים.
Because the hands have to do after.

If

Stranded without water in the stand up for the blue goes to the tomb of Sheikh as Weiss , really kind upon(as Weiss) abundant water that even Mey Eden wasn't shy when it provided not band of followers table there a while before straying from the trail is just half an hour walk albeit on her.

Ben. - Lakhish area deviate Tel lakhish. Although not marked on the map and even tap there. Space bath (we called it eye Dosh ") just great to shower and get on the mound to 96.14 and coffee at dawn !

Good potable water eye (not backs!)-deviation of 500-600 m off the trail

אסף- In the clay near the SID I think burying is necessary although it is done even without it.

In the set not on the Tamar is essential: people always leave some water in there and if you don't have to go there during the day and stop cars on route 25 we got something like 20 gallons in an hour and a half of stopping cars.

Next up after the small crater Scorpions we thought we should but we know there are forces that can count them that give water.

At Nahal Barak should plant and save walking route

Black Canyon if you water who takes Eilat should plant.

People with SUV (not like me) absolutely desirable!!! To plant after mount cockscomb that undoubtedly is the most exhausting day trip in terms of topography

Eric. How shovel ?

1.dig with relatively deep pit hoe point weight will explain how to get to it.

2.wrap everything in a trash bag two bottles and wrap in another bag, more pleasant to get them clean and dust.

3.place at hole cover and obscure the excavation.

4.prescribe an exact description of the huge (not to rely on memory) or strictly you can also copy and use images.

5.recommend from experience to plant always! יותר מהנדרש עבור כאלו שתפגשו במסלול.

6.לי אף פעם לא קרה שהמים לא היו במקום.

Atmanti: parking places, parking about point farm, before boarding the nozzle Crest, under the Khan shaharut (was) and Black Canyon entrance

TALSH-עוד כמה טיפים קטנים על הטמנות:

1. don't have to plant, you can hide in the field (in Creek or behind any rock) and cover-stones easier also plant, also recognize the place and get the water.

2. it is important to mark the place in one form or another: flat stones, rock stacking special there near can try to draw an imaginary line between points in space and place huge in relation to the line.

3. definitely advisable to plant as much water during the trip will meet group. increased and more water from tuck neatly simpler logistics.

4. it is not recommended to plant in Georgia that sometimes they are stolen.

SHAY.

And bath near Lachish-delight

RAMthe following points list based on a Danish points suggested in his lecture of cross information with other sources like the table of Tal welcome upgrade, update and add.

1
258 road, crossing a river can be clay plant or pick up trucks and some cars travelling on the road people are not asking for a lime factory.

2
מצד תמד, מפגש כביש 25. Above stated no problem collecting water on the road, rigged. .

3
חציית כביש 227. I rigged the night, about six miles from the red Road, not far from antenna Military facility, not checking to see if there's any staffed rumors about 227 road traffic is low to nil and not look like a road that could be based on it to collect water from cars.

4
crossing

Route 206 near irkeam eye I've laid off.

5 oedipoda Creek parking lot
, at the base of the crest and I was also marked "cache for SJ bars (not checked ). condition doesn't require car 4על4, but consider a long trip (over 10 km) through dirt, including one point won't be simple to ride low and/or weak engine.

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night parking at the bottom up Chin ס"ש meeting blue and green I didn't, as I understand it takes a car 4על4 need to plant or worry that you don't want to go on about 7 miles up Chin up to the seminary, and the next day to return them.

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גבי חווה. לא הייתי. נדרש רכב 4על4.

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from a previous computer an alternative spot. the way Ramon to no hand know.

9
night parking, near river ס"ש meeting green with black ס"ש-axis no oil required the set 4על4. you can also sleep in the parking lot, Wells organized, distance 3 km.

10
Sandy back parking lot by Zvi Gilat (and read about it in the Forum) local monitor caches there sometimes water, should call and coordinate with him I wasn't, but my understanding have 4על4.

11
at the entrance to Nahal Barak 4על4. I..

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צומת ציחור. להערכתי ניתן להתבסס על טרמפים.

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באר מילחן.

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פתח קניון שחורת. מנסיוני ניתן להגיע גם עם פרייבט.

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חציית כביש 12.

Dani Gaspar. Just before the intersection at km 40 tsihor on Highway 40 must tap sources of water.

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#2 Posted : Friday, October 13, 2006 7:18:54 AM(UTC)
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Overnight parking of Hill/River oedipoda. Arrival is possible from morning (and I think also because plant Auron but not checked) I saw a bus around so that it is possible and can be reached with conventional vehicles.

At the meeting between oedipoda Creek and a parking lot. Set up there. The way dirt (red) because midreshet Ben Gurion or dirt road (black) because Auron.

I'm a big SUV owner (8 passengers and a driver). Help in atmanot for Israel to set up some guys together-atmanot, you don't have to go together, I can set all points South in the more common points-of, on a farm, Ms. Conn, lightning Creek, River tsihor, bar ilachn, Black Canyon fees or price per bottle or (more profitable when rally together) by burying at least six to seven landfills that do give me one day to leave the field in the morning and end in the city of Eilat. I also helps with all kinds of special requests, bounces in and out of the field, organizing a surprise יום הולדת בשטח וכו'. פרטים: bergerh@bgu.ac.ilמס' טלפון 0545343797

The set for a trip to craters, it is important to emphasize that you can go about using private farm (MAZDA3), as did the very easy way. (Champagne East next to Nafha prison )Additionally reached paran in her garage MAZDA3 of Zin (crossing entrance from SDE Boker and port of Oron), so that it is possible, if some resourcefulness and any driver section (20 km in three hours!) in retrospect, rather (a lot) to get of Auron and drive along 4 x 4 check the red light, but no way is possible, especially the car leasing.

. In Be'er ora will have available water there, but maybe it's better to skip this anomaly that במרחק לא רב משם נמצא אגם תמנע.

2.
in principle it is better not to rely on the landfills but still regular contact one laid (search the Forum) if I'm not mistaken, the huge shopping mall garage herut.

In Be'er ora has very nice people, but it's pretty debilitating anomaly from path, it is better to go straight to the Church of mtmana prevent. Black Canyon landfill no longer (the Inspector won't let the Angel and Eilat exempted.) water Days or try to talk to Eilat field and ask them if they have a walk around (that's what we did and it was perfect...)

And your case has been reported burying here so we can fix the problem. Credit is due to those places and gone to him burying and no solution "sleeve" phone.:rattlesnake bar (it's too prone to calamity):

A taxi from Arad-Levi - 2889579. מיצד תמר: מונית מדימונה - עוזי: 052-3557105. נחל חווה: חיים ברגר במדרשת בן גוריון 054-5343797 .

Nice offer in metzad mahmal Tamar to order pizza from Arad and Dimona, or say that you also brought a six-pack or two along the way.

הבהרה וחידוד:

1.according to the rumors, probably before briefing guard briefed the Netafim crossing near ein Netafim to refrain from distributing water to travelers, despite the absurdity of it — so we recommend that you keep this option as an emergency only.

2.locked gates at Be'er ora 24/7 but you can join the local residents who come in and out, and have met with people from where they will be happy to help with logistical supplies.

3.Black Canyon landfill does not exist because the Inspector requires that aatmana be a very sort of way (iron barrels buried in the ground, etc.) If you have a group of 3-4 people that are in the black area and want to help establish a landfill-would love to if I'm in the House, but it didn't work one person.
If there is a need for water shachorth-would love to help if I'm at home, in der weekends only-I-Elad-0523407094
ניתן לבקש גם הספקה לוגיסטית בתשלום סימלי.

Be'er ora: I spoke to head of Be'er ora and the pedestrian gate (the gate of the vehicle) is locked in place are pleased to help on the condition that no one rises above the fence or gate is unlocked you talk is about the car how you check this information? In Be'er ora has two goals, Western mchioveno gate reaches settlement-this gate wear (him shining mean not over), then should encompass the entire community, although it has only 24 families but designed for 1000 about that big round and reach the main gate (East) of Be'er ora, if not exactly a car call Steve Tamari (d/Chief/founder /developer community very nice etc) and open your gate Can I go home and have some water or other aid, and there is a kind of Nice corner blocked winds under a tree there. --------

Reach Be'er ora North can take South West on a dirt road (topographic) South fast haklil (Wadi Tigress that attaches to the womb River) and take approximately 2.5 km. opposite the turn West (left) and gate after about 800 meters fromthe back on a dirt road that goes North West of the village (black) and after two and a half miles to the back all round about 6 kmwalk is the addition of 4 km.

For those who want to spend a night in (in the tent, and there's already a family home) with water and friendly people and in this area it pays to remind in Be'er ora tourist venture planed just steamroll if positive presence (not to climb over fences and locked gates.

Ogisitic support in metzad mahmal Tamar, a small crater Creek of Muhammad.  Deals with organization and support for bilaim advice, from Arad to Eilat, etc phone: 050-5278128

It is difficult to prevent fingers. To prevent fingers from it something like 32 km and that is very difficult, a music one keyboard for just this season long dry spell could feel it everywhere we must take extra water in case of a malfunction in a way I wasn't coming to this day with less than 6 litres per person

Burying that maintained by itsik stronghold in the garage back dune. Mrs. Sandy parking lot has put that Itzik maintains the information about the amount of bottles. She instead ask that travel Itzik through site, call and report some bottles remained in place please help af help you. Itzik's mobile: 052-3666453 .

The Black Canyon key set the nature parks box (metal) where hikers can put excess food and water on their responsibility for the benefit of travellers for initiative.

Reminder: you can contact גי'פאים to people and to use them in the water. Visit jeepolog.com  באתר שלהם כאן

Very nice Park Ranger named shiri decided to pick up the gauntlet and do something about atmanot

, The trunk was purchased and erected there by the authority all of smart's initiative called shiri . This morning. We put there 20 bottles and West called travel group to say thanks and left 6 bottles, I guess it really helps for travellers. The caching is next to the garage tonight. Of Black Creek, at the intersection with Israel, will try to fill it as soon as possible with the help of cheer. מטייל יקר -: A. drinking water there, not in the shower, please save them and also an אחריך.
B. If you plan to move and shachorth rely on huge-very recommended to establish first contact with me and/or with cheer to make sure water even Elad -052-3407094-050- 6704760



About the landfills in the Negev: Ramon sits another tour company. They do the landfills at Nahal Barak. Look for them at 144. About photographs of the landfills that are surface wipe with. So map is better than photography.  Do not plant in Wadi except on the sides. Flood can wash the caching. Therefore, it is desirable instead elevated above the Canyon.

I've huge disappeared near Dimona (Bedouins), even the stick stuck in a huge iishiro know that they visited a site. Check that there is no watching while caching. Even so if Dewey wants to take landfill is going to notice a change in the route area and find it. My case but exists. I did about 10 landfills and only one was stolen. Always be tricky. "

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#3 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2007 2:16:49 PM(UTC)
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We went yesterday to atmanot water along the trail.

Among other things, to a complete way Arad dogs. You must obtain a stick or stone in hand just in case. .. There are containers along the Bedouin settlements.

Between Arad to metzad mahmal Tamar have a base and at the end there, but it's a good idea to plant water phosphate where path meets the road because it was through with lots of Sun and fewer trees.

In metzad mahmal Tamar saw monitor or something sitting near tonight.

Whoever gets to Auron should fill as much as possible because water trail away is on friendly and therefore it is advisable to take water for 2 days [Oron factory wouldn't let us get on with private road to plant water]

We met two travellers that Bill told us they days and the plant saved my life.

You can reach about four on four car farm and private car is not very low [we got almost to top of Eve] car entrance is because the monument next to Nafha prison.

In the Ramon crater can be reached with a private vehicle right up to the night where the trail meets the axis.

At Nahal Barak reached with private vehicles from the South after Paran and the car until the path and plant water.

For attention!

Not every mile on the map is the same effort level. I mean there are places like this five mile walk a mile somewhere else and therefore looked to the topography of the path and do the calculation accordingly.

All is laid.

Dry food plant with the bottles — will save you then.

To tetmino instead of chshird, because low rain everything will be washed away.

In addition to mind sign's big water because goats eat it.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 26, 2008 11:52:21 PM(UTC)
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Yes these are all places where shovel water. See points 1-4 you can think about is the small crater gap can manage with three landfills: rattlesnake, little crater gap and ein irkeam. Soft car reaches this small crater mfar drive of approximately 30-40 minutes from route 25. If set at 7 don't need at 8. One day homage to the Observatory. At tsihor in water sources, make sure again that there is access to the tap, when you do the atmanot.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, March 2, 2008 12:22:18 AM(UTC)
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March 1, 2008 No tap water friends km 40 to 40today, it seems that this valve was closed, but it immediately disappeared forever. Water environment: Faran of EAPC now (to coordinate with the keeper but not a problem) or stream sources at the entrance to the mall to meet ADA, but on the other side of the road (I haven't seen it myself, but I heard from a source authorized)
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[QUOTE = 50c3nt786] 01/03/2008 No tap water friends km 40 to 40today, it seems that this valve was closed, but it immediately disappeared forever. Water environment: Faran of EAPC now (to coordinate with the keeper but problem???) or stream sources at the entrance to the mall to meet ADA, but on the other side of the road (I didn't see it myself but I've heard from a certified source)
the entrance to the Mall witnessed far trail down 40. Where water is not potable. There is a guard at the facility but sources workers pass every time.
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#7 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2008 1:16:02 AM(UTC)
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The termination of the support.
40 km 40 is a good place to car soft caching.
I think we have one really essential landfill (or swipe instead of the huge14 liters of water) and she's back parking lot dune. All other atmanot you can pass if going at a good rate or carry more water (I hope everyone get to wipe from the North will be fit).
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#8 Posted : Monday, March 10, 2008 3:26:23 AM(UTC)
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What I said is what I meant. Possible going into the appropriate shape to save many landfills.

You can walk in one day, Crest (preferably not down to) and go to Seminary. You can go for half a day + midrasha mitzpe Ramon.
The only problem is the parking lot back dune where landfill (posts here) and the distance is at least two to Ramon. You can go the expect-Ramon-40 and return to stock up or jump to a garage in Wells (4 miles round trip) but there's still a chance to get stuck in a crust eye no reasonable amount of water.

14 litre not carried, maximum 9 (and it too) I'm just saying something like – if you go 20 miles per day you'll have to carry that much (unless planted everywhere)
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 17, 2008 10:20:12 PM(UTC)
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The accepted division by the average traveler 20 miles per day (go, set/drag):

From Arad to play Oron (3-4 days)
1. Arad Be'er Echis: Highway (258) near rattlesnake bar with traffic especially trucks (burying with cars)


2. on the transducer (burying with cars) movement of vehicles.

3. the small crater (you may be able to get water in exit to extractthe, not build them.

Auron is factory next place with water. Normally travellers obtain every 3-4 days so you might need to arise to Yeruham (advantage-start full Crest, so you won't have to water down and up from Auron)

Auron-SDE Boker (days)

Burial at Giv'at section if you're fit and decide that you're going there for a ' hoof cut a path marked black.

SDE Boker-mitzpe Ramon (2 days)

Burial in River Ranch, a ranch and back water fountain (anomaly) and may be clear but in early spring.

Mitzpe Ramon-Sapphire (about two days)

Burying important dune back night garage. Black eye bean usually have enough water (unless it's in the middle of winter), clean enough to be purge

This is great, all the other places you can deviate to close. (Correct me.)


Edit: since this is crucial, and these questions repeat themselves, opening paragraph on the subject wiki "weaknesses"Chillum39524.820162037
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Thank you so much, I couldn't get in.

Few questions are:
1. the section between Paran to sail you can pass in one day
2. Be'er ora not listed in wiki, but I guess that is also a source of water. Am I right?
3. is the huge Black Canyon maintained? Who operates it?
4. What are the sources of water South of the Mall.
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1. I personally (and two more travellers I met on that day) I went in one day, I can't guarantee that you can walk in one day, it's up to you and you accumulate until you get there.
Even if you wrap the night could go on the road 40 (recommended day in this segment, where Israel is powder). If you do not want to go, hitch from as many do.
2. I think some complicated and her perversion worth (but check the route map), this place is also really small.
3. Off-road and wildlove Forum and Forum in Jakarta, check with them.
4. in fact, there are no water sources. Has the road border crossing Netafim (deviation, no water but tap water tank used by the soldiers there (they really nice ד"א/s) if the tank ends would be easier to ask for water vehicles there than in road near Hanin Jehoram.

. The anomaly is not complicated. Keep to prevent a South stream approach instead. The place. Villas have a considerable number of families. Give you water. The military has made (as of November). Not to climb the West fence of the residents don't like it. The East Gate is open. The idea is to develop tourism instead of all budget backpacker through place encourages the initiative. Back in black for North to facing West. It extends in ~ 3 miles.

3. There are currently plans to maintain the huge didn't see signs in the field (three weeks ago).

4. beyond Netafim (+ 2 km to Greece) set or order water Eilat 50 NIS taxi, but it's also best to get to Eilat and sleep there at night last.

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Before you take a rattlesnake bar blue-green connects to check has a wide dirt road to the West (on the map is marked as a defective road) after 2 km the road reaches a lime factory (labeled map) where right on the lawn must tap open to all.
We saved us there and this water filled landfill instead of walking to the light factory, on a dirt road.
Rumor has it that if you arrive during dinner can help with dinner in the dining room, but we didn't come out.
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About the atmanot beer Echis.

Was there a week ago and I spoke to one of the bidoas clan. Helps a lot for travellers, not the kind you take something that doesn't.

Told that sees occasional sixes water next to the node, without burying and naked and usually none of them, not about nelle! since I know it belongs to. Most bidoas and there still a code of honor and traditions. Adult Shepherd take something if he needed it to save lives. Children or adolescents may take.

Anyway, who keeps burying on the node-זבש"ו factory workers also Jews who pass, and shuttle drivers may take him. Gap calls for a thief. Buried in the judgment.

Be laid at-it is not advisable to plant at the junction itself, rather than the Western Channel her. Turn onto the dirt road and continue for 500 meters East, after referral to the South has a convenient channel to my nakedness. and threw huge parking area.

Another problem is the scum and the bottles on the trail. Reminder: no mess 'em and throw debris, too. Old bottle of water collapsed and rubbish bag, wrap it with cloth or פק"ל (RIP) bag and take with you.

No frog or stack the bottles in metzad mahmal Tamar. If anyone has time and energy to the Ministry of environment and the Ministry of tourism on the head until I put there eye irkeam and Amud-Centre, frog and cages.

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