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#21 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:53:27 AM(UTC)
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Not really decided when to leave.  First I need to buy/to hit the charts.  I think I do the trail segments that depend on the weather.  Don't really feel like going out in the rain, and it would be nice to come home to Tel Aviv and enjoy a shower once a week (usually I ... UM .... "hygienically challenged" ...) .  I'm going to use my camera as a sound recorder to record notes on the path.  I'm helping to do DATA BOOK or whatever that happens I might as well do it right.
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#22 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:25:39 PM(UTC)
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What?! You don't do that for a sequence?
Played you use run due to weather considerations do the southern part in sequence but make the parts. After all the legends and admiration that you are purchasing the Forum people didn't think I hear you talking about doing this for parts.

About shower-shower every other day for (without home), there are a lot of good people along the path you will be happy to host you in the shower/hot bed (Malachi official trail and those who heard of the trail).

About maps-who does the Israel can buy maps for $ 50 at the society for the protection of nature.

-Follow-up yagil loosening discipline don't update the site. I will soon file the room.

-If you want to sponge maps maybe I can lend you some (are not mine so I need to find out), I-Tal in Kfar Saba.

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#23 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:51:43 PM(UTC)
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I also used to think that the only way to do that is to follow the same path from one end to the other but then I walk יום20000 km know better (how it in a sentence and arrogant cocky?).   Seriously, I spent 11 months as one continuous THRUHIKE, what he said I needed to be out there even ugly days when I dreamed of my ceiling. We've all been in this situation and we all know it's less fun side of THRUHIKE. This time I intend to take advantage of the fact that public transport pass in the Israel National Trail (INT) in its segment. I enjoy watching the rain fall from the window, when instead of shamshkim, and not sink me.

About shower every other day, you sure it's not dangerous to health? The instinctive reaction to water falling from the sky in the form of rain is to cover, much stronger reaction from our response to the cosmic radiation that we absorb every day. Strong evidence that lartiv is the body of water is much more dangerous than to take active radio radiation. 

Anyway I usually avoid hazarot in Malachi that Bill. My agenda.  I usually start to go at about 1 in the afternoon (I'm allergic to) and finished the day at night, and then it's too dark to get knocked on people's doors.

If I can buy the mnoiilanot maps at 50 NIS might buy them and save the need to hit them.  I still have to hit if I want GPS to take the points.

Oh, and about the myths and worship me.  Legends are legends.  Reverence me does exist in the Forum, but unfortunately it only has a single source.

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#24 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:18:00 PM(UTC)
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The website Committee for me Israel is frozen for three years. Hope at the beginning of 2007 you will receive updated information on the website of the society for the protection of nature, where look for the reference. Whoever gets to step towards the exit in the Israel National Trail (INT) is entitled to purchase for $ 50 per unit, the 14 leaders maps is to note that the tiny country of about 10,000 kilometres of marked trails and a 940-mile Israel trail are just one-tenth of them. Before hurrying to pour the water with the baby, trying to walk without maps, keep in mind that travelers consistent public will first hits on the financial sources will be renewed markup. A movie of which the volunteers-the results were quite eerie.
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#25 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:31:14 PM(UTC)
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I keep saying that I think there is no substitute for topographic maps that give you lots of information about the area where you are traveling, not just narrow path on which you are going.
Need to find a cheaper solution, but camping Budg (especially before/after army guys)-perhaps establish some books for a symbolic price maps rental or something similar.

Although Israel puts the path in the excursions in the country which means that if they continue to explore the future they must purchase topographic maps.


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#26 Posted : Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:48:12 PM(UTC)
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Bob about tailor made, trail map, any map as it is exploiting a small part and, after intently realized Forum path changes frequently, but if there is one point which is stable, it might be possible to get an official map (by Simon Commission or the authority) map will be a kind of booklet (like little kids ...) that span by folding along the trail and puts all the rlovenits only. It iosill the investment map, and the more you need to carry and still be a source of income to the Committee.

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#27 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 1:17:54 AM(UTC)
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Great suggestion. I'm very pro-map of the trail, with several kilometers each strip Greece for emergencies, with the cut for the back side.
It's something I'd buy even though I make sure to keep the best maps and think adata Bock replaces him (although the truth, for the first time did with several of Bill.)
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#28 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 3:10:46 AM(UTC)
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I saw here a tip that someone was walking down one of the paths with Palm software and maps, normal maps, sounds great, easy, etc. (I can even take the father with child MIO GPS-tour program, use it to navigate and get a David with PT and. ..)

Only practical, electric idolization? Loading? Also on the topic of GPS, how to handle loading the device over time?

(Especially you want to measure level of activity would entail throughout.)

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#29 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 3:44:33 AM(UTC)
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I travelled with maps printed on A4 is navigation software (naviguide) and added comments in the margins of water, food, etc.

All pages might consider מו2 סמ"ש maps (some pages printed on 2 sides), of course not carried anything.

Consider going on a trail is marked and therefore the map/gps should help you not to mess around and more familiar phenomenon that only travelers who book or data book.

Load-measure how long you battery ends (similar to operating conditions for) spare batteries for it or getting in the way (if they arise), every 3 days on average reach settlement place where you can recharge.

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#30 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 12:58:28 PM(UTC)
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Safety aspect must be mapped clearly – if God forbid should travelers get themselves they need to know what the closest place to civilization. And wacky critical among us who want to do the night walks.

Danny-society for the protection of nature should be some-trail revenue to cover expenses associated with the check for (and some direct costs already have), but the society for the protection of nature act in this case as a greedy landlord, gives us two bad options--to risk to go the path without maps or buy all the maps they OVERKILL the moves for clear. We can take no maps miles of well-marked trails, or maps with 10,000 miles on them. And there is no option.

The only reason we're trying to find a way to circumvent the need to buy topographic maps, is that the society for the protection of nature in Israel, due to greed, laziness or just bureaucratic inefficiency, not giving us the solution so please- Book Publishing House Bill with topographic maps.

If the home page of topographic Committee still see after three years to pass, some Virgin faith you think us society for protection of nature, with its puffed-up bureaucracy, bother to get several good trail.

Safety aspect have obvious bearing on topographic maps, and if the choice for travelers is to get dlpons without maps or maps that are problematic with anything in terms of copyright, I prefer helping and giving praise to the second option.

And he really isn't. Chillum-academic curiosity, you still have the relevant files of the map?  Is there anyone on this forum with a good scanner and maps?

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#31 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 1:24:57 PM(UTC)
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The maps are part of the software (in BIN) there is no other way to see/print them as far as I know, except for the software.

Every page of a program, it adds about copyright symbols.

Some arise maps abroad? Or that everyone travelling data book-

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#32 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 5:19:06 PM(UTC)
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If the printed pages, the method is most comfortable is not a scanner but rather a digital camera with a 4 megapixel or higher. I took a while back 5000 documents in English, so I can't say for sure that it works.
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#33 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 9:10:33 PM(UTC)
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See if we're talking about copyright infringement, it's pointless to scan maps, there are programs, for example, a map of 1: NAVIGUIDE 50000 of all land (including marked SJ)

I know the software due to safaris and a very high level, including all the options of 30 navigation satellites support, build a track by ITM etc.

So if you have somewhere to start scan, it is possible to print from sterifim,

I attach a picture for example.  (Ignore the markup of the VOL, clicking on schedule.) (SJ has reds.)

מא .......

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#34 Posted : Friday, December 1, 2006 11:53:39 PM(UTC)
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I looked at the price of the navigation software with maps.  They are all in the price range of $ 1000 +. Not really a solution to us economic challenged.

And for something completely different.  The CONTINENTAL DIVIDE TRAIL (which is the most maricai of the Israel National Trail) map problem solved thanks to a guy named JONATHAN LEY 4500. km the trail in 2000 and has since issued each year with all the updated topographic maps of the path with the path and alternatives, and just as important notes on the subject of water.  He does this as a service to other travelers, but it's not his goal earned some of that thanks to donations that people do for sending him. One disk that caused the upheaval in the navigation path, because these maps are good and cheaper many times what any other alternative.

The reason he can't do it legally is because the basic topographic maps Government issued American are without copyright, so you can duplicate them and modify them.  Unfortunately it doesn't work like that in Israel, and I don't know topographic maps of Israel they are without copyright (anyone know?)

So if someone decides to do Israeli this service to other travellers he has probably ל"התגמש" into compliance with copyright laws. Anyway, if such maps appear suddenly on the Web, only good can happen. So might be the society for the protection of nature and motivation to get the number for anything so important.

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#35 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:04:59 AM(UTC)
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I think that the link to CD with maps of Jonathan Ley :

Http://www.phlumf.com/cdt/cdtmaps.htm

From there you can get to his journal on CTD. There is a detailed description of the route, equipment, links, FAQ, etc.

Also, see his Web site it describes other tracks he made (PCT, etc.)

This link: http://www.phlumf.com/index.html

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#36 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:12:05 AM(UTC)
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I think you missed my point, the hearing began it 700 NIS maps shst is expensive, then the sections of scan and. ..

So if you've already discussing about copyright, so what's the difference with scanning maps of copyright infringement, or spend sterifim ready navigation software (which you can find online for free. Again, copyright ...) So it doesn't matter that your software costs 1000 +

In answer to your question you Ronnie Charles on "the map" software can do it the way I attached this picture from my computer.

And so the problem of hard work and high level scan.

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#37 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 8:50:14 AM(UTC)
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Chillum wrote: or spend sterifim ready navigation software (which you can find online for free.

Where on the Web can find it for free? If you have to write it here link.

I'm almost sure that although taking this illegal software piracy (and all law-abiding mountains), it is completely legal to write the pirate site link.

I've pretty much completed the expenditure involved in purchasing the set mnoilanot, but I'm sure there are enough people who can afford to buy the maps. May walk the path without maps, but it's definitely not safe.

The safety is much more important to me than the economic well-being of the society for the protection of nature.  Told about it before but I'll be more clear. I think that we here in the Forum need to help in any way possible to potential travellers to obtain maps for equal per capita rates, even if you have to sometimes ignore copyright laws.  Using GPS instead of map may be an alternative and valid (although greatly safer maps from GPS) GPS great sea but still more than many travelers can pay.

If set to facts on the ground — for example by downloading all the maps for a CD and sending them to whoever wants them, we will do great service to travellers, and at the same time, if this project gets, we also make economic pressure on the nature preservation society to get several good track.

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#38 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:26:18 PM(UTC)
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It's not that I wrote a letter to Chillum, and really have no trouble finding the net.

As their website says, "I'm just giving the link. There are no human rights violations. "

Here NAVIGUIDE program (sequel to Turbo 4, who knows)

(Non-calibration software or download form araza. If you need help tell me program.)

Http://www.lala.co.il/modules.php?&name=Edonkey&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=2530

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#39 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:34:24 PM(UTC)
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For anyone not familiar with the software, and dealing with them, you can find details of "araza" (in English) on the attached link (also has a link to download the software).

Http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=182049

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#40 Posted : Saturday, December 2, 2006 1:58:39 PM(UTC)
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Example to strip intended for that. (Of course you can do a million other Strip) plus a reduced file, upload to display the site in a better resolution.

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