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maayanula  
#461 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 6:59:53 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, we have to take him to a silk liner.
And definitely go back and will update with new information and current year, even if they cannot.

The rafiog Jubilee we email to our address in a week, give or take. Sometimes you have to push a little bit more but they say. Not tried on the phone.
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#462 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2012 7:40:06 PM(UTC)
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Successfully refer.
There's little rain forecast throughout the week. The most neglected but Wednesday with 7 mm it's kinda expected forever annoying.
Temperature range of 5 to 17 day night = > perfect for walking.
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#463 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 12:19:24 AM(UTC)
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Just before we go, a dilemma about the finish.

Official website said that the alternative to privatization by the end of the route via the way down Highway 503 and then the route shortened a day.

We allow enough days to do everything, but we don't want to do via lists. About the last day, the map has a way (which seems difficult, serious height differences) that encircles the via privatization East: 514 for facing East and North to 528 527 hyperactive thrash South, to 505 rafg 7. Someone know the way? How long? Is as hard as it looks on the map? Views?

If you decide to short, what a day it is recommended?

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#464 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 12:49:09 AM(UTC)
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Hello again, Amnon asked Club forms and in charge of external relations where grounds that pretty and companies should ask which Bowl to receive the discount. When you say that you guys enough talking from experience?
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#465 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 4:09:16 AM(UTC)
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Funaro (Abdul)

It's not from personal experience because I have membership (or other)
Israeli travelers who had written on the subject in the message of AV2
From what I understand, they receive a discount card (don't know about stamp)
Would love to take more precise update on the subject if you have or plan to purchase Israeli card

Shlom

I don't recommend you to do the great flanking 528 527
I don't know the track but he marked points as trail running and it has a lot of downs and UPS
Already on the first 1000 meters have a decrease and then increase of 900 meters. A total of up to 7 it adds to the sum of Alpine is insane.
Follow the recommended finish = > 518 trail to rafiog and from there all Bianchet on 503 rising Pinei until in bus

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#466 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 4:57:42 AM(UTC)
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List of Israeli travelers in orbit 2012
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1 maayanula-onset trajectory) 20.6
2)-ehud early track 26.6
3 ofersar-onset trajectory) 27.6
4 amirp-onset trajectory) 28.6
5)-tank early 30.6 route
6)-early orbit 2.7 Sparrow
7)-early orbit 2.7 shlom
8)-early trajectory bensh 9.7
9)-early trajectory 11.7 funaro
IRIS r.-10) early 20.7 orbit
Iobelsh-11) beginning track 21.7
YaKov-12) early track 21.7
13 ULhiker-onset trajectory) 26.7
14)-31.7 route beginning Buckthorn (three labardo's teeth)
15. Ehudros-route) beginning late July.
The novel 16 oral route) beginning August.
17)-the beginning of 6.8 track weapons.
Omryg-18) early 23.8 route
19) – the beginning of a track 28.8
20)-the beginning of a track mid-September
21) little and Harel 21.9 route start
22) bud light early in September.
23) Henry and Gideon early in SeptemberAmnonl41146.6133564815
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#467 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 8:08:19 AM(UTC)
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Impressive indeed, and have quite a few!

Kudos to Amnon the concatenating assignment ("factory") impresses!

By the way, I flew into orbit in French Vanoise 13.7 in (I don't recall who wrote the AV1 destination.)
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#468 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 9:51:38 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Amnonl] Israeli travelers track list 2012
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1 maayanula-onset trajectory) 20.6
2)-ehud early track 26.6
3 ofersar-onset trajectory) 27.6
4 amirp-onset trajectory) 28.6
5)-tank track beginning late June
6)-early trajectory shlom late June early July
7-start course funaro) mid-July
Iobelsh-beginning) 21.7 route
9 ULhiker-onset trajectory) 26.7
10. Ehudros-route) beginning late July.
Kiss-11) beginning of 6.8 track
Buckthorn-12) date.
-13) has yet to be determined date.
14) Sparrow-yet to be determined date.
15)-not yet scheduled bensh

I guess it's a given that the last azzoad begins in 6/8 it mid-season.

Come travel the second half of the season with their questions.

By the way, two years ago in the agoastorts 15 minutes after the beginning of the walk from espot drops us a bunch of 6-5. The inscription on the t-shirt of one shirt "kvutzat yavne" left no room for doubt.

They turned out for five weeks on the GR 11 and go to village and rest easy.

On the last day at Refugio rstanka three guys from Israel and FS to Israel have representation in my opinion every year and the most popular trekking routes in Europe and USA.

About AV1 no doubt at least about some atzoadim for tilapia comes agent fee.

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#469 Posted : Monday, June 18, 2012 11:29:34 PM(UTC)
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I saw that I do not date marked כ"עדיין. It's true, I'm not even sure if the end go alone or if my brother recently sprained leg (mountain bike..) will join me.

The date was early July and I'm just waiting to see whether the forecast of Tilapia, waiting to the last minute could find a flight at 200-300 dollars-or indeed the Israelis that he sends to the Dolomites will price to stay or God forbid not found anywhere (???!!!)

And another kind of question to Amnon:

1. why should the map? It seems unnecessary to me (only required for section 31 map tiny but it seems superfluous and 15th covered by?)

1.5. If you order a flight at the last minute how to make reservations at rpog (and other)?

Thank you!

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#470 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:52:19 AM(UTC)
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There's no guarantee you can find last minute flights for less than $ 300 for a period of over a week.
Most cheap flights last minute be limited forever and usually 2-4 days.
But in recent years were in early July, $ 300 flights enough even for 10 + days. See what will be this year.
In any case, whoever is waiting to the last minute to save money! The question is just how much money
Currently the cheapest flight is offered at $ 299 Israir Airlines for a week or 10 days.
Next week should begin to appear more options.

Kenya at the last minute is usually approximately 24-48 hours before the flight. You have to call rpiogis and book a place. No Internet time

Map 15 holds the whole nudges di Fiume to Paso Duran. That's one of the most useful maps.
However, you're right that map 31. Can handle printing of the map I brought here to Lake rafiog in Yala.

Today in the morning to open the spring season and the core price.
I wish you a honeymoon sweet and wonderful experiences.
Try to go early in the first four days expected to rain every afternoon.
We're waiting on the Forum Amnonlreporting41079.0177199074
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#471 Posted : Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:17:02 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the clarification.

1. to be sure I don't miss anything (because I was going to skip map 15) of map 15 covered by map 3 and 25 which I have here between (?) meaning if you forgo 31 (with the little thing attached) needs three 25 followed and eventually 24. ??

2. interest – does look. Do you have any recommendation on teroolist?

3. via privatization if taking a security rope suitable for tying around the body (like normal browsing security) and soft long enough one at rappelling ring the security cable connection instead – it's enough to make the privatization (all of them)? Also gloves (Helmet and harness the mood to carry all the way ...)

4. Felice require or rely on thermal vest in addition to rain/wind jacket?

5 I may have missed some recent updates so I apologize: the last part forc del marmol way does someone made and information about the decline of privatization to Alpine rpog 7?

The book describes as if asleep last night at plan de Fontenay and rise up the mountain and old rpog there not staffed with seven berths? Or to go to the Summit uniquely (schiara) and down to 7 Alpine? In short – is unclear.

And all so long for — and I'm sure they don't understand where the name Israeli tsunami. Soon there will be restaurants with tprts in Hebrew.

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#472 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:16:20 AM(UTC)
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1. absolutely not. Map 15 is not covered by maps 3 and 25. Only a small section of the map. You can pass only to 31
Whoever doing this via a track can give fratte also say map 24

2. in the past used the 747 's website to see all the available flights. Their advantage was not required to enter flight dates and so you can see all the possible combinations of flights per month over the next two months, with prices (like table to travel agents). Unfortunately they are bankrupt and therefore no more convenient option. Additional sites for flights there like garbage. Such as Ayala and Ophir tours. This is the place to mention that teroolist does not display all the available flights except flights through agents who appear in the search list. A real limitation.

3. I think enough rope with one ring definitely list easily, but there is no doubt that harness and two rings are the way to go on the list and explain why.
A. why harness? Because when you fall the harness splits horizontally the body weight and you can stay up to hours and function normally. In addition, if you fall and upside down as head, the usual security just slides freely through the feet that don't have armpits. This is a significant hazard.
B. why two? Every few meters you need to loosen the ring and move it past the anchor peg. When you have two rings you always remains secure because until you are moving one ring you don't release. Gloves help grip and prevents slipping. Freezing weather are very important to heat and damp weather especially are driven. The helmet is necessary when there are many forms and fear that go stones. Climbing via privatization is often unpleasant to get vertical and that rock climbing is found 100 feet above you.

All the above refers to via prattot and medium-sized companies. AV1 track only the end say Prata falls in this category (medium). While there are a lot of prattot all ranks in the short-term but trail on the route itself has only mramol in demanding full security equipment Can we settle for just mramol in a simple and security-ring I think so since according to rumors about Prata medium.

4. don't need Felice AV1 route. Just weight. If you insist, so fleece top up to 200 g

5 I still had no Israeli traveler forum do Prata is to say reporting difficulty level. You might be the first.
The couple want to avoid travelling in the Prata and tell why he recommends a bivi say sleep right at the beginning of the ferrate is the disease. In fact, who at a pretty decent feynan rafiog Fontana-i.e. at about 8 a.m., he had no problem doing all the track up to 7 and Alpine long before darkness. The book concerned a situation where there are travellers load creates a bottleneck Prata. To suspect that there is no justification that no actual travel in its AV1 Prata. People have not the strength to carrysecurity equipment41082.0179282407 Amnonl
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#473 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:53:27 PM(UTC)
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Hello

Unfortunately for the recommended rafiog Sens has no place in a private room only dormatori our first night in, but also the rafiog Pedro and Grete bodl?e found some powder before Pedro has a place.

Anyone who visited the two recommended? Atmosphere, etc

Waiting for an answer .

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#474 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:33:04 PM(UTC)
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Tilapia, thanks for your answers-help (as usual)

BTW, I checked the map thoughtfully-15 is unnecessary – at least in having (!!!) because what it covered by 3 and 25 (?-2011 edition).

Probably be back if more questions soon. Try to do mramol's privatization, it mostly depends on whether I'm going to end up alone or with my little brother and, of course, and while I stay there at the end.

Shlomit-dormitori?. I'm sure the Germans after the capital don't snore iotherm "h" and "h" of lilac.

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#475 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:42:25 PM(UTC)
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Amnon wrote in response to the Sparrow,

". Absolutely not. Map 15 is not covered by maps 3 and 25. Only a small section of the map. You can pass only to 31
Whoever doing this via a track can give fratte also say map 24

I did homework and tiny all points marked the route described in the guide via alta 1. Including alternatives and not even opened my map 15. Missed something? Each map which weighs 250 grams. And as I understood every ounce matters.

Dror wrote:

I saw that I do not date marked כ"עדיין. It's true, I'm not even sure if the end go alone or if my brother recently sprained leg (mountain bike..) will join me.

Sparrow, you sound like a nice guy and funny, you're welcome to join us, may use the security rope and ring you carry with you.



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#476 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:46:50 PM(UTC)
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Dror wrote:

Shlomit-dormitori?. I'm sure the Germans after the capital don't snore iotherm "h" and "h" of lilac.

After a delightful experience in a charming but tiny dormitori, tra-la-if, with five Germans who did the TMB, and their equipment. I prefer not to take unnecessary risks.

But it's open.

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#477 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:02:21 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for letting me know about the map. I really use scanned maps from 2005 and new bmadorot they divided the territory.
I therefore ashmite 15 map maps list the main message

Salome. The dormatori of Sens is small dorm rooms. There's no way a bunch of Germans who snores. Or dormatori of 4 or 6. You don't have to worry about.
Anyway, I slept in oodla and Pedro, too. Both are great and Pedro as expected is one developed as required from the rafiog road.
And still I think sense should be your choice even if it's at dormatori.

Dror drop everything and go with the girls. There are suggestions that it is impossible to refuse them.

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#478 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:32:53 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Amnonl]

Dror drop everything and go with the girls. There are suggestions that it is impossible to refuse them.

If you know ran + Rani (the owner) not sure were so quick to recommend to go with the girls.

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#479 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:05:08 PM(UTC)
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Ah. Married. So I withdraw. They need you anyway just for rope and ring
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#480 Posted : Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:13:06 AM(UTC)
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About via prattot everywhere I checked them is also very recommended for helmet and shock absorber (e.g. petzl zyper y) instead of regular bands and this is because the prattot labtoachim have a tendency to be slightly away from each other and that's why a growing ordinary ropes fall or slingim aren't enough.

To add to the list-Eran and Eyal 11/7

As for Alpine Club membership. I plan on day of arrival to get a loyalty card in CAI in Cortina, if anyone has a better idea, I'd love to hear
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