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omryg  
#701 Posted : Wednesday, September 5, 2012 12:23:46 AM(UTC)
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In two important points:
1. the case mentioned a lot and still taking too long, even with a scratch. ... Don't need so many.
2. for those who still want ... Free Internet at skotoni and at la varella between 16:00 to 22:00
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#702 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:16:21 AM(UTC)
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Trek back to AV1. Started 21 August 2012 and made almost entirely in eight days.

First: thanks for the detailed information on tilapia that allowed us to plan your trip in a short time. Very fun and exciting experiences passed among ourselves and between ourselves and nature and its beauty.

However, please note that for the average traveler aged 35-45, running marathons regularly across each track in eight days is not an easy challenge at all. For us, the time estimates were too optimistic site, which scored big pressure on us to reach and strenuous walking. Once we arrived just 15 minutes before dark, which could end not good (not to mention the difficulty in obtaining food by this time). Example: an excellent site that rise on the first day taking about three hours. Us, together with surrounding the Lake in the beginning (20 minutes) it took about 4 hours to Biella and then we had to run to our ripog (Fodara Vedla) to arrive on time.

Our recommendations to avoid these situations:

1. start early to start early to get a head start!- try to start walking at 8 in the morning. This will allow you to go at a pace that suits you, and still arrive at. Also, more pleasant to walk in the morning coolness. In addition, if there is rain or lightning storm, chances are they will start at 6.30 p.m. early exit will improve your chances to avoid.

2. Add at least an hour of excellence on site per day and add another hour to unexpected events, like navigation errors, rubbing mates legs going, an electrical storm that requires you to take cover, etc.

3. After you have added all of this, we were going to go to sleep until 10:30 at the latest. If the design doesn't fit in this time it is better to extend the number of days in orbit or to shorten the track. To get to the day, if the head is planning to arrive later than that! You duty interval to unplanned events. In addition, early arrival will allow you to rest, relax, do laundry, go for dinner (18:00) after a shower, make friends with people and go to bed early.

4. the things we think recommendation of Tilapia to start the first day in the morning and immediately after the flight is an excellent recommendation. The late start is problematic, as you wrote above.

5. write cellular has throughout the track. We had a local SIM card for TIM, and we must say that this was both us away from reality. Most of the route, except for the central section that passes near ski resorts, we had no signal at all. Don't build on it.

Important tips about equipment

6. buy shoes for a long time in advance (two months) and country walks with them before you set out for. Shoes don't fit can be a nightmare (like me).

7. bring walking sticks. Unbelievable how they help decreases and increases.

8. take a basic first aid supplies in sufficient quantity. It's better to overreact than to be without. It weighs very little. In many ריפוג'יוז unable to get what you need and rely on the good graces of other travelers. First and foremost-treating bruises and blisters: thick and a bandage (band-aid? small enough), you also plestri advanced silicone (e.g. Compeed), nails, polidin, paddy, gauze pads with rubbing alcohol.

Recommendations and other tips

A.
Rifugio Fodara Vedla
Sennes hotels had no choice then there is night Fodara Vedla, in which was a pleasant surprise. It is a family farm that rents. Unlike other places, they just mean dormitorios you shower in the room. Beyond that, as a couple, there is only room we received it (not great, but bunk beds only). Very tasty food and home.

2.
Rifugio Citt? di Fiume – away
The Rifugio worst were in Citt? di Fiume trip. Congestion there very difficult. We were in room on five very crowded bunk beds (two of them are really linked together). All people share one toilet area with shower. The shower is at the entrance to the bathroom every time I open the door, the entrance to the sinks and toilet is blocked. If you have a choice, it's best to stay away from him.

C.
Rifugio Carestiato Bruto
The penultimate day planned to arrive at Rifugio Passo Dur?n, but due to rain accompanied by lightning, a little frightening to him at Rifugio Carestiato Bruto. It turned out as the nicest Rifugio in us all. Clean and friendly, bright, relatively spacious heated even in the bedrooms, superb food and views. It's not of hotel rooms, but there are not many people in the room (we were alone in a four-room) and rooms are spacious and comfortable. The next day, when we passed through Passo Dur?n, seemed at least from the outside, there are cozy cabins, plus they are attached to.

4.
At Passo two Rifugios Dur?n
As noted, we don't recommend accommodation in Passo Dur?n, but who still want to stay there – please note that Passo Dur?n is the name of a place (Durand), and two different Rifugios. Tabacco map both don't appear as "Passo Dur?n". The full names of both: the first "Rifugio Passo Dur?n" c. Tom? and Rifugio San Sebastiano-. Nadav70 41178.5010300926
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#703 Posted : Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:05:26 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = embedded] [QUOTE = meitarsch] Hi Joe and members of the Forum. At a good price and flight and more great times!
Matthew Verona 28/8 landing at 7:55 am,
From Verona to a: 6/9 to 1.
The flight, round-trip cost us $ 250!
We want to start the course on the first day, so think of the partition plan for 9 days, as listed here:


Recommendation to a full path (including via ferrate) in nine days.

Day 1 (4) Lago di Braies to Refuge Sennes
Day 2 (7) Sennes Scotoni Refuge to Refuge
Day 3 (6) Scotoni Refuge to Refuge Averau (using cable cars)
Day 4 (9), Averau Refuge to Refuge Venezia (crossing Ridge pelmo)
Day 5 (5) Venezia Tissi Refuge to Refuge
Day 6 (7) Tissi Refuge to Refuge Passo Pab.duran
Day 7 (6) Refuge to Refuge de Passo Pab.duran Pian Fontana
Day 8 (9) Refuge Pian de Fontana to 7° Alpini Refuge (VF)
Day 9 (3) 7° Alpini Refuge to Case Bort?t and Belluno

What do you think? Thoughts Comments-
Thanks and Hello!


Excellent price. Last year we caught at 225.
It is possible to know which site did you find the deal.

At the time, Amnon recommended that 747 went bankrupt.

Thank you!


I'd love to hear about sites to find cheap Charter flights.

Amnon, found a replacement for 747 closed?
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#704 Posted : Thursday, September 13, 2012 1:02:46 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone.
And as usual, thanks to Joe and all the rest which advices helped very much to plan and perform this incredible trip.
Returned (two young men) on the trip. Taking as a basis the Division of 10 days without via privatization. Try not to repeat already said on the Forum despite the fact that experience no words can describe.
1. we went back through. Daily scheduled flights. Experiential travel by train. We spent a little Alta posteria.
2. take two stoppage due to weather. There is no reason to go.
3. outline:
A. l. dibona. "saved". Straight from SCOTONI to SCOIATTOLI. We went from lgazvi. Skotoni room a bit cramped.
In no place in ishnano instead, STAULANZA highly recommended and some far off: AQUILEIA. Steer in CITTA DI FIUME. Unbearable.
C. the next day until some TISSI. Can I CRODA DE LAGO and shorter this account not to sleep in TISSI and go to somewhere VAZZOLLER much. Here add a day.
D. the PAB.DURAN walk to FONTANA. Highly recommend sleeping on SEBASTIANO and go till PRAMPERET. Since the peak travel segment is after prmpert and do it before noon when.
E. prmpert l. BIANCHET. Contrary to the provisions of biancet Forum, a very nice place, quiet and welcoming. Here we have added daily. A total of 11 days.

To: finished on Sunday. Unlike the schedule at biancet stating that there are buses to Belluno. The road at 10 o'clock in the morning and apparently there's bus at 2:40 pm.

Baruch
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#705 Posted : Friday, October 5, 2012 1:29:00 PM(UTC)
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Theme hiking season 2012 peak season in the Israeli presence at the track.
The thread goes into the winter break and meet again in April for the 2013 season.
Thanks to all who contributed information to save the current thread
All tips and the reports were on file download area "tips of the primary message."
All the best and happy new year to everyone.
Amnon
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#706 Posted : Monday, October 8, 2012 6:20:24 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,
Got back from three days on AV1.
First, we want to thank everyone especially Amnon on tips and help.
Some background-couple not too experienced in trekking and alpine experience it was. Of freedom and constraints we went trekking holidays right at the end of the season, in the last week of September was amazing and we're back again! But certainly it was better to leave one week, two weeks before in terms of availability of cabins — some already closed, public transport barely-active met very few people.
Our trajectory and some recommendations:
Landed in Milan and Verona, of course it would be better to land in Verona. For those who still can take rest in Milan (Malpensa express) from the airport to the main train station (Milano centrale) at a cost of 10 euro. We landed in Milan tonight so there and next morning went towards Villabassa. The train from Milan to Villabassa cost us € 33 per person and included two stops--in Verona and Fortezza (actually we have eventually spoken "train" of 11:50 am from Verona and Lake around 1630). At Fortezza had almost an hour stop between trains, who hunger (we were) across from the train station (on the left across the street) and a restaurant with delicious pizza you can get.
Saturday 22/09-drive from Milan to Lake in Rais, a night at the Lake. We recommending lodging at the Lake on the first night, we really enjoyed, away. And after a long day of travel-we finish up the first day. Double accommodation in half board cost approximately € 115.
Sunday, May 23, 2009 – from the Lake up to Sens. Not the disappointment and certainly was not easy. Sa?ns highly recommended place to stay, and relaxed atmosphere, delicious food and very comfortable. There is a double room with shared facilities costs € 27 per person with breakfast (price for July and August slightly more expensive).

Monday, May 24, 2009-Sa?ns included and Arla. Less difficult. Family-friendly place, but less welcoming. Cost us 35 euros per person including breakfast.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009-dress and Arla to lagouzi, our last walk today and most impressive. In the end we arrived at lgouzi. Skoialtieli and the cable car that goes up to it were closed at this time of the season. We sleep in lagouzi, in the half-board cost dormitori 49 euros per person. Shower cost another 3.5 euros. We highly recommend lagouzi lodging, great atmosphere.

Wednesday, May 26, 2009-originally our plan was to continue at least another day until Abreu or Paso geo only managed to get places, so we rely on in the off season and mid-week day and called (so did with other cabins and there was a problem). In lagouzi we talked to more travellers called even a week earlier and there were places in Abreu. Actually we didn't have other options to continue that serial tzinch and novlau skoitali, were already closed on August 20, 2009. An option is offered to us in lagouzi and she had taken her down and the cable car cabin Korda de Lago around 5 hours. Eventually woke up the morning with bad weather, very rainy and foggy and therefore decided to cut. We ride that buses no longer active.
Right, because we had a rest in Cortina but it follows to book a season low shaoptiot, Abreu or Paso geo maximum number should be relatively low when
In Cortina found a great hotel in a great price-also has good things:) season

Thursday, may 27, 2009
Drive from Cortina to Milan, cost us around 50 euros per person bus + train

Thanks again everyone and all the tips and help
Been waiting for the next Trek
Harel and little
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#707 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 9:28:13 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I'm planning a family trip in early July as in the Dolomites but the Austrian side. Does anyone know how to get information about and cabins in the area. Does the scenery compares to that of the Dolomites?

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#708 Posted : Monday, January 14, 2013 9:56:38 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = dondon]

Hello everyone,

I'm planning a family trip in early July as in the Dolomites but the Austrian side. Does anyone know how to get information about and cabins in the area. Does the scenery compares to that of the Dolomites?

Mean family-ב"טיול

The Alta via 1 is Alpine treks for experienced hikers. (Easy for other Alpine routes scale but certainly doesn't define "family trip")

Anyway, of course Tirol a networked hiking trails of various difficulty degrees and of course.

There is a (hard!) called HIGH ALTITUDE RUN 2

Starting in Innsbruck Tyrol Austria, crosses the border to Italy (5-6 days) and in Italy on the Alta via 2 (weeks walking). You can do just that.

There was a post about it with information and photos looking for him in the back.

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#709 Posted : Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:13:00 AM(UTC)
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Does my family and her three daughters: 12 11. Can go but inexperienced alpinisti.

Anyway thanks for the info.

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#710 Posted : Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:47:05 PM(UTC)
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So it really doesn't fit.

It is not only the difficulty of the trail but that go from cabin to cabin with equipment (clothes, toiletries, etc.).

In my experience children go no less than adults but once their weight on their backs loaders are fast courses (small bag of 6-7 pounds is 15% of their body weight, and consider the case of 12 pounds per adult.)

I think these bgilas fit more half-day tours. Almost every town has a tourist office in medium-small. You can buy it for peanuts map of the area with hiking trails departing from the village. Sometimes you can combine it with the cable car which is great.

With the wait a few more years trekking.

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#711 Posted : Thursday, February 7, 2013 4:57:36 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

Me and my friends are planning to take a trip on June 20 to AV1 with the opening of the season. (Arriving at 19, so we are planning to sleep on the Lake)
The route planned by many tips you read here (and thanks to Joe and all detailed information!)
1. from the Lake to Pederu
2. Pederu up to Lagazuoi Refuge
3. Lagazuoi Refuge to Refuge Passo Giau
4. Refuge Passo Giau until Refuge Staulanza
5. Staulanza Vazzoler Refuge to Refuge
6. Vazzoler Refuge to Refuge Sommariva
7. Refuge to Refuge Sommariva Bianchet
8. decreased to bolano

Since we have a few days to explore, I wanted to ask if this is a sensible Division provided both in good shape? (We're not planning to do list) I also would love a recommendation which is the easiest point to go sightseeing in the Marmalade ... bus, bolano mountain? Or another way to reach?

Many thanks in advance,
IRA
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#712 Posted : Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:05:46 PM(UTC)
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Your plan is good if you really have a very good capacity and carrying bags.
The main problem is in the first two days they don't make it easy to plan and the body are not yet accustomed to altitude.
But that you sleep in the Lake you can definitely build on coming to Pedro if the weather is good and hit the road early.
About getting to Marmalade ... ... The most simple and convenient would be to rent a small car in Belluno, and left to return it at the airport.
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#713 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:05:14 AM(UTC)
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Hello

I think to trek in June/July. I wanted to get recommendations on AV1 Trek, suitable for exit only.

My experience is in Nepal (3 weeks on Everest area, ABC), where I traveled with partners/Porter, and of course not loaded on my back, and I needed to navigate alone.  I'm in good shape.

I have a couple of weeks, so I thought this time to explore closer.

I wanted to know if it's likely to travel alone on AV1, or you have a recommendation? Are people busy route, or pass hours without seeing people

I'd love to.

Thank you very much,

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#714 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:41:22 AM(UTC)
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Hi Jolly.
You have to read the recommendations? It's OK :) You don't have to.
Dozens of travel for longer alone, including girls. This is one of the most comfortable walking trails alone.
The trail is pretty busy in peak season in August but it never. At the time you plan to date (June-July) a great and busy time.
This post has 14 pages and how many files to download. Do a little reading and get much more general impression
I highly recommend this for a bit, but I'm objective about loveAmnonl41326.1566087963
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#715 Posted : Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:38:18 PM(UTC)
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Some fun. The thread wakes up from hibernation.

Cheerful no problem to go away. Also women. There's someone who went alone and wrote a detailed post on it (I think her name is Mai if wind strength he appends about Amnon the link to her post).

Excellent check and clear but you must go with a map must go alone.

I almost didn't open the map during the walk but it helps very much to sit the evening before in ripiog with a map and study the course of tomorrow (almost every section has few options other than the main route of the Alta via 1)

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#716 Posted : Friday, February 22, 2013 1:04:24 AM(UTC)
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Hi,

Amnon, Yuval.

Thank you very much. This is actually my first time here on the Forum-and just fun to read. In short, read about this and other questions:-.

But I already downloaded a lot of suspicion.

Jolly

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#717 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:40:35 AM(UTC)
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Hello Amnon,
We three women, are planning to make the northern part of the Trek in early July. We have four full days, a pretty port LEGO Bryce. Flights are booked already. Very good gym, but it's our first Trek.
Originally planned route with accommodation in sennes (first night), lavarella (night two), lagazuoi (Tuesday night) and passo giau (Wednesday night).
The problem-it is important to sleep in private rooms, and at the moment we are not able to find accommodation for the night (no on and no lavarella in fanes). Passo giau also not find but I guess at averau.
The question is what the alternatives available to us. Is there another ' rafiog can handle General planned route or alternatively, can divide the entire track differently. Of course, the choice to sleep in Babylonian dormitori but we prefer to avoid it if possible.
Thanks in advance for your help and of course to all the rich information here on the Forum.
Sharon
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#718 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:03:42 AM(UTC)
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Hi Sharon
Congratulations on an excellent choice for risotto
From what I understand, you have a plan for five nights (1 + 4 Lake Trail)
This is now your walking program:
1. Sennes
2. Fanes, Lavarella
3. Lagazuoi
4. Passo giau
I guess that is geo-Peso finish from because you're talking about four days.
When you say a private room to room, or a private room for each possible?
You should know that they track adormatori rooms of 4, 6 or 8 travellers travellers
So if you sleep in dormatori of 4 hikers is actually private room so that you will not push so another traveler
The Division did she give an optimal fit, but so do other Division
1. Pederu
2. Scotony
3. Averau
4. in another city or any city of cortine off course.
Anyway it is better for me to sleep on because it rafiog Averau gorgeous.
Bottom line, since this is your first Alpine Trek, go for the original plan that allows good acclimatization and promise.
It won't hurt you to sleep once or twice at dormatori. It's not such a big difference from a private room.
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#719 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:32:36 PM(UTC)
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Indeed, three room.
In some ten people dormitori fanes. Find out how big in la varella.
Anyway, I think I get advice and ndachus the track.

Another question that arises because of the fact that Paso-geo have no room for night: assuming you sleep in last night, averau should continue until El Paso-GEO to go to Cortina?

Thank you already said? Sharon41381.4741203704
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#720 Posted : Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:42:31 PM(UTC)
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To the crowd. The Bellavista dormatori I Arla.
Are you going to Paso Abreu geo through novlau rafiog in one of the sections of the track. About two hours
A Paso geo reach Cortina hitching (fast) or taxi (expensive)
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