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#1421 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:29:10 AM(UTC)
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If you start relatively early (before 12 pm) the walk from the Lake, there is no reason not to sleep in rafiog Pedro.
It shorten your day at and help you reach skotoni with less effort.
In fact, this is the default for most of those who sleep in the Lake and start walking early.
To your own discretion
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#1422 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:50:32 AM(UTC)
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Good advice.

Partners prefer to go slow on the first day to acclimatize to the altitude. Even for me this is the first time I'm going for height

So maybe we should slow down. As I continue to practice in the morning so my concern from the other day is going down.

At her Tel azekah was very reasonable and the time is also shortened.

We took the Division, recommended. Another question (?):

Are likely to build on being lunch meals eaten at one of the ripuig and without straying too much from the route?

: I think you're right. Tel azika plantation tour when the increase at the end of a hot day doesn't say much about.

However met enough travellers said the spike was azika hard mound That's why I chose it for training.

Thank you too.

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#1423 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 9:09:14 AM(UTC)
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Good advice.

Partners prefer to go slow on the first day to acclimatize to the altitude. Even for me this is the first time I'm going for height

So maybe we should slow down. As I continue to practice in the morning so my concern from the other day is going down.

At her Tel azekah was very reasonable and the time is also shortened.

We took the Division, recommended. Another question (?):

Are likely to build on being lunch meals eaten at one of the ripuig and without straying too much from the route?

: I think you're right. Tel azika plantation tour when the increase at the end of a hot day doesn't say much about.

However met enough travellers said the spike was azika hard mound That's why I chose it for training.

Thank you too.

A walk in the heights of the Alta via no acclimatization (unlike say Nepal treks to the heights of 4,000 meters and above).

Is tilapia offered to add a day of Sens. Pedro in decline, moderate in the first half and in the end did not think it adds significantly to the effort of the first day and the second day.

The second question

Day 1-between the sense stopping to eat at rafiog in Yala (not sure that's necessary given that Sens. mbialla to walk).

Day 2-skotoni-Sens to Pedro after an hour and a half walking and flashlight and abarla after three hours. The first 2 on the route to abarla this deviation is 10 minutes each side and I think we should name great food)

Day 3-skotoni to Divonne has to agazvi.

Day 4-Divonne to Abreu has skoiatoli (on the route or deviate depending on where you get)

Day 5 – between Abreu to have staolenza Faso ji?o (before midday)

Beyond that, I didn't go.

Anyway, read what I wrote in the wrong thread TMB for lunch in the middle of the day. We did that on the first day of walking and regretted it. It is better to manage during a walk with dates, nuts, energy bars or bring.

In addition all rafiog offers "Munsch picnic" and you can buy and eat on the road whenever you without being dependent on the way while ripiog as you see every day ריפיוג'ים way fetuses but not always are "arranged" in the middle of the route. Don't stop for lunch an hour or two after you've started to go ...)

We, after first day experience we stop at ripiog only way to refresh over a cold beer on hot days or chocolate/hot soup on cold and rainy days. Umpteen eat more.

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#1424 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:29:52 PM(UTC)
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I saw your post at TMB. We take LUNCH. Dates, nuts and Belgian chocolate by beer and coffee.

Will do.  My partner also suffered in the Alpine heights of 2500-2000 m, so instead.

Thank you very much.

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#1425 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:30:35 AM(UTC)
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Back from the Trek a few days ago. Thank you for the site and this forum, otherwise I would probably not come to make the great Trek! (Many from other countries have asked me how the guy gets to make the Trek, so telling it's site:-))

25.7.14 was tour dates to 2.8.14 — total 9 days, one day of rest.

A lake in Rais, finished in agordo City (region Paso Duran), unfortunately I didn't have time to get to the Pian de Fontana although wanted.

The weather was changeable, almost every day has dropped some rain. I longer with thermal shirt and/or raincoat mood than a t-shirt, hat and sunglasses.

I traveled alone and booked local accommodation. The first day I arrived and it was rpog and later ordered a day ahead every time (called the rpog in me for next rpog where I planned to stay overnight).

Point out the sections I've done and my comments on them:

Day 1 – Lago di Braies Fodara Vedla –

I slept in one of the villages in the area and ilbasa and started the Trek (IE not arrived directly from Israel). I was getting the same day but the Pederu who hasn't practiced walking tired and stopped in powder, knowing the next day will be a day longer than planned to skotoni. The scenic and secluded location of powder makes it nicer to stay in it than Pederu.

Fodara Vedla – day 2 – Fanes

The plan was to go to skotoni, but the rain started at noon in a black (to eat) and stopped for a few hours, made me decide to stay there (and probably a good thing I got out of shape, not skotoni, and walking that day was probably exhausting me in this early stage of the Trek when my body is not yet accustomed to walking).

Day 3 – Fanes – Lagazuoi

Basically it's supposed to walk for the catwalk, but the 20b pass was closed due to a rockslide, and therefore had no choice but to extend through skotoni, which has a particularly long today — especially immigration isn't over for lagazvi (see the rpog all the time but he doesn't deserve). Incidentally, Refugio flashlight aware that normal days (open shapas) to the agazvi cabins and offer to buy 8 lunchbox books. This is pretty lame and 2 restaurants. (Frankly anyone who wants can come down from agazvi especially skotoni for lunch, and then to go back, but it's a bit tedious to me). Continuing the Trek there are sections without a cabin and therefore buying a sandwich in the morning rpog is something I've done a few times.

Day 4 – Lagazuoi – Nuvolau

After the grueling first day I decided to have some fun and ashol down from lagazvi (open at 9 a.m., about 10 euros). From there I went on foot for 440 (surprisingly good, is muddy after rain) to skoiatoli to see the serial, Chakra and walk pretty well have to novolo more Western route which runs directly to Abreu, I didn't do it. I wanted to go on privatization of Abreu but started raining and the weather remained unstable for the rest of the day. Refugio novolo very basic, no bathrooms, no water to drink, Bullseye (except at night when they open other services), dormitori. But I liked the feeling that more Hardcore Refugio and the amazing location. There prices are high for what you get, especially in food-probably when Greece road leading to it.

Day 5 – Citta di Fiuma Nuvolau

I wanted to descend through the privatization of novolo, but the weather normally unstable – vague, dripping wet and rocks, so I gave up. Instead, I went back to Abreu (20 minutes), from where the western flank to number 452. After about an hour of Abreu reach Paso geo. From there continue by road story. Refugio Chita di Fiume surprised me, probably due to the fact that I slept in novolo and things I read here I downloaded place expectations (and my staolenza wasn't in budgetary reasons). The staff is really nice. The next day it rained so I did today.

Day 6 – Fiuma – Citta di Tissi

The day started very strange. I debated whether to do a variation of the pelmo, or go directly to Tessie. Came in this morning, I saw a little cloudy and I decided to go through staolance, Tessie. After a few minutes I found out that maybe the wrong way — one that leads to the pelmo. I said to myself – well, fate determined that I should probably go to go, so I said, pelmo. Then after a few minutes I lost again, this time to the 480 pelmo. I found myself heading to staolance without a hint of a coming up. I decided to go with it, I connected with 472 and went to staolance I pelmo.

After a conversation with a few Scots who took me and raised the pelmo, and after looking at several versions of the maps, I concluded that the trails in this area of the pelmo marked on the ground as the old maps. I had a new "2011" and marks it probably erroneous. A map from 2008 marks matched to a description of the Scots – 480 trail rising more sharply in a steep Canyon Road, and around through the mild Valley. These guys have confirmed to me that there were a way to 480 marks along the increase there.

Refugio Tessie – great location See apas already before but he further meets, especially because rising a bit discouraging. Don't give up to go just over and behind the rpog to see the view also. We recommend the sunset J

Day 7 – – Carestiato Tissi

Day was hard for several reasons – was quite warm and sunny, not easy (there are a lot of ups and downs, rocks, stones, tree trunks, the kind of days you should see all the time where you step), but mainly because not enough breakfast for Tessie (made in oazoler). Very nice Carestiato.

Day 8 – Carestiato-Agordo

After I came to the conclusion that I have no time to finish all the Trek, I woke up this morning and cut the city 548 agordo via Bill – Bill very clear, total 1.5-3 hours. From there a bus to Belluno.

Some general comments:

Transport:

Whoever ends up the track in the area of Paso Duran (agordo.), and that ends in-Bianchet and going on the road to the village of La Muda, both should take him the agordo bus passes after a few minutes at La Muda, and Belluno.

A link to the updated timetable for summer 2014: (agordo-Belluno direction appears on the second page)

$FILE/linea1_E.pdf http://217.194.178.227/d...nsf/Images/linea1_E.pdf/

Please note that on Sundays fewer buses (I think it marked in column F).

About traveling by train in Italy – Please note that the card must be valid before boarding the train, specialised machines at the docks! Otherwise you may get a very high (Lee was lucky visitor cards and more ...)

רפוג'ים:

  1. Most public rpog breakfast is not enough for me (bread, butter, jam and tea/coffee). Exception was Citta di a Fiuma even yogurt and Granola.
  2. There is no path segments in the cabin during the day – I should have asked how many times harpog to make me a sandwich (with cheese and ham) (for 4-6 euros).
  3. רפוג'ים I recommend to be in terms of the landscape – agazvi, novolo, Tessie. All allow (if you come out and walk around a little) 360 degree view is amazing. B including increase the chances to get a lovely view without fog, at night or in the morning.

Equipment:

Things are mandatory from: raincoat and case covers, or Cape (personally don't get along with Cape); Thermal shirt; Walking sticks; Sunglasses and sunscreen. About brass, who iced his relative. I used a. About float/sheet – if you offer, but if it's public, so there's a good chance Refugio to take money for it. This basically required in rpog to sleep with something to do between mattresses and blankets.

One last thing, for everyone who comes in who knows what shape (like me), I recommend to do relatively short segments in 2-3 days.

I really enjoyed the view. Enjoy you too!

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#1426 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:56:30 PM(UTC)
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Note that יענקל'ה porcla di Lago is still closed.
That means a pretty big detour to reach skotoni and strengthens the recommendation not to stop on the first day but pull up PEDERU Sens
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#1427 Posted : Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:29:55 PM(UTC)
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Hi Yuval

Did on Friday the change for Pedro, regardless. I think (/hope) we're in better shape this guy

Didn't make it to Pedro. And thank you for reminding

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#1428 Posted : Monday, August 18, 2014 11:05:01 PM(UTC)
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Returned (two members), the Trek a few days ago, in one word: amazing!

Later in the story up through eight days, distribution

A few things to those who still will be out this summer.

The first day [Fodara Vedla Lago di Braies-]:

Fodara Vedla, targeted at workerss! Amazing room, great food, very clean and tidy, taking into account that it adds the other day about an hour to an hour and a half walk to Pederu (or extremely busy).

Day two [Fodara Vedla – Scotoni]:

Like I said agazvi's bar is closed (even though we met two girls, schoolgirls who Trek [nose] through the pass is closed), it is not recommended anyway and therefore would rather skotoni way to agef 20b assuring real climbing in steep mydron to the end of the day.  Anyway for those going through the pass and sleep in skotoni, taking into account the decline [15] skotoni lmohort great thing way back [30 minutes]:(

Skotoni is highly recommended!

Tuesday [Scotoni Averau.]:

In contrast to evaluate her schedule sctoni to agazvi rafiog is 15 hours! Without stopping (the) in the trenches of WWI.

We also went in, the lower cable station on 424 trail and meets trails substitute to pleasantly surprise 440 despite rain until Averau.

Averau every word is unnecessary, the best rafiog I've ever taken.

Other track go as planned and coordinated all the published schedule of the forum system, continuing the story of my way.

Some things about the rafiog in the southern part of the route:

Refuge-claiming Staulanza so this is no longer the question rafiog?!? ... Expensive, very low food, showers in 5 minutes.  If you can find a perfect alternative.

I saw Vazzoler refuge for several רפיוג'ים, on this track in this if it hasn't seen but MTB, class in every way, just not to approach, if it works out 4 hours walk from which the Carestiato Refuge, looks great.

About the track:

Munich is possible, taking into account 6 hours.

About departure:

Munich is very strongly recommended, nine hours by train! And there was a possibility to shorten this time not even using buses.

A very nice option for couples doing the course, bolano can take a train to oonitzia at 7.29 euros per person, you can go back through Venice Marco Polo airport, the flight costs $ 290 for concussion and too high frequency:)

However, special thanks to Joe and all Forum members for helping design the remarkable track has been written here: First Class Service!

I got my maps 031, 025, anyone who wants to borrow them, coordination-6254615

Ronen.

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#1429 Posted : Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:04:34 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I'd like to trek of 4-5 days with my wife on AV1 in early September,

Is there a recommended thing what starts out AV1 in towns where you can take a bus/train

How do you propose to do Division?

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#1430 Posted : Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:07:35 AM(UTC)
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Without a doubt, five days of gains until the Averau or 5 days rafiog a little longer until the Staulanza rafiog.

Easy to get to Lake Harris (the track), it is easy to find at any point along the route because each day reach or pass through a central node.

In this way the best rpiogis taboro and luxurious and can experience the various types of scenery along the way.

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#1431 Posted : Saturday, August 23, 2014 9:12:35 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Ronen.

A few questions for the audience.

1. accommodation in previous entries I saw I was told that if it's not peak season there is no need to book accommodation in advance. We're at the beginning of September--is it still high season? Whether the couple are advised to pre-order at this time? We prefer to buy as little as possible and to be spontaneous, and weather reasons aim that is difficult for us to assess our capability (no us Alpine experience).

2. we have seen the spacious:
Day 1 (4) Lago di Braies to Refuge Sennes
Day 2 (4) Refuge to Refuge Sennes Lavarella
Day 3 (4) Lavarella Scotoni Refuge to Refuge
Day 4 (5) Scotoni Refuge to Refuge Angelo Dibona
Day 5 (4) Refuge Angelo Dibona to Averau Refuge
We plan to spend the night before and started on this morning. Whether and how we should change the Division accordingly? (I realized most people stop because they sense the first day of the walk and are starting to go early).

3 last question about the weather this time of year-what to expect? And how you should take that into account in route planning

Thank you!

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#1432 Posted : Saturday, August 23, 2014 10:20:15 AM(UTC)
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I love at first night have a place to stay, so I used. Also, if you have a weekend in a way you should worry.

About the Division: If you start to go in the morning from BRAIES you can go to PEDERU, depending on your fitness course.

I suppose you're training for.

Weather in September. Need to obtain cold weather too. List at the beginning of the thread.

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#1433 Posted : Saturday, August 23, 2014 11:07:05 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = walks2meals; 581208]

Thanks Ronen.

A few questions for the audience.

1. accommodation in previous entries I saw I was told that if it's not peak season there is no need to book accommodation in advance. We're at the beginning of September--is it still high season? Whether the couple are advised to pre-order at this time? We prefer to buy as little as possible and to be spontaneous, and weather reasons aim that is difficult for us to assess our capability (no us Alpine experience).

2. we have seen the spacious:
Day 1 (4) Lago di Braies to Refuge Sennes
Day 2 (4) Refuge to Refuge Sennes Lavarella
Day 3 (4) Lavarella Scotoni Refuge to Refuge
Day 4 (5) Scotoni Refuge to Refuge Angelo Dibona
Day 5 (4) Refuge Angelo Dibona to Averau Refuge
We plan to spend the night before and started on this morning. Whether and how we should change the Division accordingly? (I realized most people stop because they sense the first day of the walk and are starting to go early).

3 last question about the weather this time of year-what to expect? And how you should take that into account in route planning

Thank you!

A great Division and the first half of the Alta via "pop" in ripiog so that according to the season you're going quite possibly not pre-order (small misgivings about weekends Saturday Sunday which could be a problem even in September because the day walkers hiking area for a weekend).

The first day should be taken in moderation even if asleep the night before near the Lake. If you indicate that you have no previous Alpine experience. Dias of the Alta via is 900 m type height divided by 6 km walk. Make your own bank account. .. .... (Except Sens. is run by a friendly family and great food).

The weather in September is a little colder, but usually also more. Anyway should take exactly the same clothing as specified in the list of equipment and be prepared for any situation.

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#1434 Posted : Saturday, August 23, 2014 12:50:19 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,
Me and a friend are planning to arrive in Venice at 9.3 and start the trail at 9.9
In eight days.
The only problem I ran into about sleep is our last night in orbit (21.9) we need to sleep in Pian de fontana and he closed the night before.
Is there anywhere else around that can stay.
From what I gather, even before night closes Bianchet
Happy to help, and thanks for all the wonderful thread!
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#1435 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 11:28:49 AM(UTC)
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Another question: If we plan to finish at Averau or Staulanza-what are short roads to get to train station Train or bus?
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#1436 Posted : Sunday, August 24, 2014 2:54:55 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = walks2meals; 581226] another question: If we plan to finish at Averau or Staulanza-what are short roads to get to train station Train or bus?

From AVERAU you meet highway on PASSO GIAO TUCKED AWAY for straight for numbered 452 that goes under the novolo cliff. Story of an hour and a quarter.

A second option is to continue on the route of the Alta via rafiog ' novolo (30 minutes of climbing) and then down through the list there little (I didn't go two hours in this way is not recommended when there is fog or rain).

Paso bus to Cortina Jujitsu but its frequency is very low (and even lower in September).

I recall with the bus stop page Paso depends on entrance rafiog Jiao ' Abreu check him out and see if it works out.

What we did (after seeing the bus will be waiting for a long story) we asked for rafiog ' Abreu a taxi. waiting in El Paso at certain GEO and take us to. No cheap cost (EUR 50 if I remember correctly) but I saved us two to three hours and was a long way ahead of us (we came back from Munich).

If you're lucky and willingness can try hitching (it's not as dangerous as the country and accepted there) the problem that 70% of vehicles which pass it motorcyclists (RPM in road tests and in decrease of Paso they one geo Wizard from the favourite in the area) and it's not a motorcycle ride.

Anyway from Cortina you can get anywhere (I know you need to get to Venice) but it requires replacement. First bus to CALAZO (at Cortina) and from there a train to Venice.

Staolance, I think the meeting is PAB.DURAN. PASSO went up there, so I can't help.

* Edit-I checked and saw that staolenza itself sits on a road so no need to get to Paso Duran. (But I have no idea about the frequency of buses there is likely to be sparse as Paso ji?o).

Edited by user Sunday, August 24, 2014 3:01:27 PM(UTC)  | Reason: תיקון טעות

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#1437 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 7:46:17 AM(UTC)
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This morning I made the last training at Tel azekah before the trip in three days.

Under the guidance of Tilapia in the TMB's thread, I hope I'm ready in terms of physical fitness.

375 m of ascent and descent in slop in an average of 30% across a distance of approximately 2.5 km

With 11 kg rucksack 55 minute lesson quite easily. See how the first uphill from the Lake the other day

To skotoni. Hope the weather cooperates.

Thanks to Amnon and Yuval and everyone who writes here about the advice.

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#1438 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 8:14:41 AM(UTC)
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Spend.
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#1439 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 9:34:57 AM(UTC)
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Good luck יענק'לה!!! Enjoy lots of

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#1440 Posted : Monday, August 25, 2014 9:39:45 AM(UTC)
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Since the Bible so intensive activity observed at Tel azekah
Good luck and we wait for the report.
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