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#1661 Posted : Monday, June 29, 2015 8:39:26 PM(UTC)
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Amnon is Alpe di Siusi

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#1662 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:36:55 AM(UTC)
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I and 12.5-year-old leave to AV1 and March 5 days exactly according to the plan proposed in the original post, and spent (and thanks). We don't have a trekking experience, but we're both reasonably fit and I hope to be standing in the program. The territory was done last night at Averau.
I read many parts of thread, but still left me conflicted about the following points.
1. login area: we land in Venice and leave in the morning in the direction of Villabassa. The Italian railways site, I realized that I get from a to b with two conkshns, probably in Verona and Fortezza. Should take 4-5 hours total. I read some people arriving, recommend via Cortina etc, but that's not the way things look shorter. Does the train only makes sense?
2. the fourth day walk from Scotoni to Dibona. Through the route in Lagazuoi. From what I can see online map of Rooms, passing through porkla and Lagazuoi AV1 is an old name for her to rafiog (South West corner). More I realized who plans to continue to spend on Dibona, should retrace back to porkla and go to the East. Have I misunderstood? I also understand that climbing the Lagazuoi rafiog is hard. This is my dilemma is expected to go up, if I'm going to sleep there, and I have to back down. I understand the view of the arpiog is, but I'd love to hear opinions. Help me to understand how long the hike to rafiog porcla and back down.
3. food: the dilemma here is related to adolescent boy than me. I guess he may be hungry in the long sections. What can I do? There are supermarkets, and I suppose in rafiog not just selling food. There is a limit to the amount of snacks and dried fruit I want or can carry out of the country. Also I think there are no cabins to stop them in all sections. Lloyd bananas in rafiog breakfast? I'd love to how this business insights should work.
4. equipment: I'm trying to figure out whether a jacket and rain gear is really necessary. I also understand that they're not exactly Strip equipment (in spirit) and a raincoat average may be burdensome (particularly if sweating underneath). I was searching for sites with information on area rainfall in early July. I didn't find much, and least I found I knocked it in millimeters in average day in some areas. I'm not sure the statistical "ש"הגישה peering is the correct approach on this issue. Insights and encouragement happy to in any direction.
5. last night we sleep as stated on Averau. The next day we got a plane to catch in area 10. It is not clear to me how do I get from the airport to arpiog, and the rafiog people do not give conclusive information. Reading the map looks I can get from cable Averau near point Fedare or walk to Passo Giau (how long does marching?). Whether either of these options? And how I moved away to Venice? Via Cortina? Via Selva di Cadore? Which means? Has information about public transportation or other information from these points?
Or maybe rather another way that Amnon treated her a few days ago and it came back through and Scoiattoli Nuvolau cable down to Bain de Dones and Cortina? And here the question is-which means exactly? Public transportation?
Many thanks.

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#1663 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:45:05 AM(UTC)
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Indeed, the famous wine andSchlern massif on the Alpe di Siusi Gardena Valley (Val Gardena) cut in Bolzano.

The picture is a photographic panorama and rafiog the wine in bloom and the sholern Ridge and the bulge of Pez and right her Santner's teeth

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#1664 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 1:24:47 AM(UTC)
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1. arrival from Venice to Villabassa is the simplest way to Verona train and bus ride through. Everything is written in the first post
2. the path weren't rising from rafiog to skotoni up to agsvi, but no sane person you give for visiting rafiog. It's a little more about her for a fairytale landscape. Only then continue to Divonne.
90% of the rise of hard you do on the trail anyway and the small add to Lagazuoi rafiog is negligible.
It's not like a skotoni trail runs far from rafiog to Divonne Lagazuoi. He goes next!
3. nobody goes hungry. If you are not religious in the rpiogy carry on. Why do you need to eat snacks and dried fruits?
Eating food cooked with fresh rpiogy.
4. to take or light raincoat or Cape. But you're right that normally during the walk doesn't come down a lot and can do without rainfall.
Murphy's law says that if you don't take nonstop rains.
5. as I mentioned in that post a comment recently, down from hanging your desire Abreu.
Your goal is to get to Cortina and Verona (instructions in the main post).
If you go from the Padre Abreu, you don't have to go to cable arpiog more than 10 meters.
The Padre to Cortina bus once but no good to build on. Hitch a ride or take a taxi.
If you choose to go to El Paso then on foot through geo novlau, it will take you around 2 hours and alternative way below of Abreu it takes you
If you choose to go down the road of skoiatoli, then you will have an easy catch to Cortina.
Again, it is advisable not to build on buses but to hitch. This is acceptable and easily.
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And just a note. You pull too many details and online map names which is confusing. In the story, and in the field itself, everything seems clearer.

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#1665 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:57:41 AM(UTC)
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Plus according to Amnon.

We went out on the road to Paso Abreu Jujitsu that passes under the novolo cliff. (Can't remember at the moment for number)

The road is not difficult and takes 75-60 minutes.

The man invited us to our Abreu evening before Cortina taxi waiting for us in El Paso and took us GEO to Cortina

Not cheap (EUR 50 if I remember correctly) but necessary if you have a flight to catch and you can't build on casual or bus ride that goes twice or three times a day.

From Cortina bus DOBIACCO-captured

The next step is to take a train from doviako to FORTEZZA railway name stops (this is the same we only train in the other direction Munich and Venice train line).

I know it sounds complicated but we are Abreu at 8 am and we arrived around 5 p.m. to.

She should walk an hour, a taxi to Cortina 30 minutes bus ride to doviako 45-50 minutes and the train ride to Fortezza.

With standby times etc. it's 5 hours until you get on the fast train to Venice and not that bad.

About raincoat-.

Can be bunching all Trek backpack (wish you would), but it's really unpleasant getting caught in the rain sweeps in the middle of the foot when you where to hide (most of the walk is done above the tree line in the area fully exposed). Us caught a terrible storm on the first day, and it wasn't just the rain but also hail and even some snow in La Paz. Without a good coat that was ended very badly.

Ditto about the coverage. Extremely unpleasant to get wet to ripiog and discover that the spare clothes in the backpack is completely drenched.

Honor statistics instead of the term but it kind of reminds rely on the natural pool that is the average depth of 60 centimetres. Doesn't help much that average monthly precipitation in the area is 30 mm if everyone fell in two hours when you're on the trail.

Forget about food-bananas for breakfast but you can buy "picnic" package through with sandwich or two, Apple and an energy bar. I think it's not worth the money (10 euros) every day except the day I departed labarala, panas to take me out to the ריפיוג'ים have agazvi in a way that you can eat them. The day we took a picnic munchies '.

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#1666 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 12:33:43 PM(UTC)
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Thanks and iobelsh. Tips and. Definitely solved my dilemmas.

In a completely different realm, I have some difficulty finding old clothing integrity accompanies me.

It seems most shops specialize in both men and women and children is a distant class of women.

Could not find the Forum needs equipment for such questions. Do you or anyone have information on suitable stores? I need him primarily for his pants and shirt from funkier head band-Israel.

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#1667 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:26:47 PM(UTC)
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I know that lkolmbia has a pair of trips to the children and I got to see of נורת'פייס is equal to call to find a funkier head band-Israel shirt? All sports camps there.

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#1668 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:27:27 PM(UTC)
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If you went on the TMB I would recommend you to purchase equipment in Chamonix Mont-Blanc. They have amazing equipment store on main street.
With 3 floors filled with all the best and all sizes.

About Alta via Dim memory. There is also a oilabasha goods store but I didn't and I don't know how.
Maybe it's worth looking online.

However in Europe, trekking and activity is very common to see whole families out hiking. Sometimes even three generations together.
So I'm pretty sure that if there is no country name will be.
Whether you are willing to take the risk and go out of the country with no pay.
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#1669 Posted : Tuesday, June 30, 2015 4:16:48 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the responses. In the meantime, I managed to find the boy shorts are a size match and functional surplus at the Nokia arena at $ 139, they don't appear to have the finest species (brand named Tsabari) but I reckon a year plus the child will no longer be in this size anyway. I bought also a Wildcat trekking socks on $ 40 per couple. Price seemed quite reasonable. Hopefully this helps someone. Ndefot t-shirts before.

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#1670 Posted : Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:02:24 PM(UTC)
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I'm back from a few days in orbit (I went at about one-third) below lessons from my personalperspective. (I'm sure the things I write has been raised here among dozens of pages, but I guess not too many read 30 or 50 page):

Firstly thank you again and others who helped many information by implementing the Forum and messages and trachnot my patience in the planning stage and the track itself.

1. very important! The loaded. Highly recommend to book ahead (because skotoni was taken one day Pedro was forced to add another rise and very difficult list to Lagazuoi Designer experience.)

2. on the first day (I was driving from Milan to vilbasa) is long and exhausting. Two trains wasn't air-conditioned, and one train forced most to stand or sit on the floor for lack of space. (And we in Europe not Nick Peru)

Consider that, water offers to bring snacks and a lot of patience. Other trains were at a high level.

3. major was moving most of the day. However not sorry that took micro fleece and thermal vest.

Every afternoon was cool and I even during long walks. The fleece used in the evenings to sit outside (and whoever wants can give as emergency equipment)

4. with the help of Amnon cut and hold the weight and in the end I went with 5.5 kg (including several thin and tefillin, so with a little effort and secularism can take easily a few hundred grams!)

However: the book was better, read-at least for me, not worth the weight.

Gloves-glove (1) help me grip the metal cable freezing tunnels of agsvi Gallery (incidentally very interesting indeed, but realized too late that I had to climb steeply to return path)

storm wear-tell me was unnecessary. (I was hoping for some rain) but you never know, a major in the mountains can vary sharply, said Amnon named Murphy, if we don't get rain, would step down.

5. Pederu Refuge was really nice. I took private room really. Good service, I enjoyed.

On the Lagazuoi location, good food and excellent service. However the Group condition nothing (hot, choking and smelly half night fell asleep after a long hard day's walk, a two-minute shower with a token at 3.5 euros, not exaggerated.)

In Lagazuoi was busy tired and lucky me!

As there was no place, Greece group of lins (professional writer who wrote the path with long since they did, I didn't catch his name) arrived about an hour later and after I eat dinner instead. Descended the mountain in the dark. Another group of girls that came later responded quickly, and probably catch the last cable car

-יענקל'ה, the alinm brought some prospects of SJ.

6. recommend to purchase a package.

A. during this vital communication route in my opinion especially pedestrian alone.

B. not everywhere were letting me connect to WI-FI or even to call their way on me!

In the rafiog where I stopped for lunch Sennes, made faces when I asked you for (perhaps rightly concerned because only stopped there and not annually) but I was expecting a little more kindly, especially given the many recommendations they received here.

Also on Lavarella (stopped for an hour and a half of legal wrangling an refreshment and facilitation if and how to proceed after I figured out (again) that no cancellations and skotoni) claimed that the WI-FI runs only defrag and place in dwellers only.

* After many deliberations decided not to go that day and stay on Lavarella (although went two hours that day) to benefit from the environment (possibly also a good excuse to read a book) and so glad I came to nice girl that decided to stay. I sure get me songs and dances but also I found them busy and just place in an improvised dormitory in the attic where if you sit down you may get with roof ...

Which led me to the conclusion that there is no choice but to shoulder the backpack and hike vigorously and of rtinot their charges towards the 20B and in addition to the Lagazuoi. (Saved me on a bench before boarding the 20B more vacillation if I should climb everything in one day, or treat yourself to a trail to some hotel side.)

7-payment of employed and paid by credit card. Only taxis and buses paid cash. (I said that if I'm not mistaken, seen a few questions on the subject.)

8. dessert I couldn't even grab about 3 hours, just to see if we were all those years with stories and legends. Venice is indeed a very special and beautiful but this time, too busy, and tourism

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#1671 Posted : Sunday, July 5, 2015 10:46:25 PM(UTC)
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And hasn't had problems?
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#1672 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2015 12:32:13 AM(UTC)
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Your post is alive and well. Thanks for the updated information. We leave in two days to do something similar. Never figured the train situation so problematic, we take that into account.
We welcome everywhere we move them, but in the halls. Hope you will be fine.
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#1673 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2015 7:10:24 AM(UTC)
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Amnon Baruch Hashem had leg problems. Maybe I realized that there's no one to talk to. However you have to remember I took all period and anti-inflammatory pills before and turmeric.
In addition, and regardless, every night I took magnesium which helps against cramping muscles.

73. to balance the picture say that only two trains on arrival were at a lower level. Other trains were Premier League.
Regarding accommodation, Pedro offered me a dormitory and there were only two statements. I think it's a crucial statistic compared to 11 who were with me in the Lagazuoi Pedro gap between a dormitory to a private room on I 20 euro (30 and 50 something against something) opinion for 80 shekels is worth the difference.

BTW, I have 2 maps covering most of the trail. I'd like to transfer them to you or whoever you want.
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#1674 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2015 7:50:16 AM(UTC)
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We actually use trains on arrival. Tickets already purchased. Back rather that return to Venice by bus.
Thank you for your generous offer on the map. I'd like to collect them, and I even offered to pay for them. I'm Maverick mainly in the Tel Aviv area in the next couple of days, with the morning sortie to North. Where are you?
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#1675 Posted : Monday, July 6, 2015 8:49:06 AM(UTC)
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I too came from Cortina bus to Venice, nice and comfortable. The sequel is, but if I understand it correctly that you return flight from Venice it's the beauty. And of course also in back. (The trip from Milan to vilbasa includes 3 trains!).


About the map collection offers exchange messages.

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#1676 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2015 12:05:09 PM(UTC)
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I was also pleased to receive/purchase maps:( Reach ooilabsha by train from Verona in 5th day next week we get the next map at the Hotel Lago di Braies before departure.
We all have a good trip!
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#1677 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2015 1:24:01 PM(UTC)
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We are used to go with since the world began. In AV1 have special usage, they give a good feeling

In the event of a Swan has a map. Allow to settle for description of the way is the main message.

That's what I did. With the exception of one Swan (amended in the meantime also a description of the way) we had no need for a map.

They slept in each pod.

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#1678 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2015 3:01:26 PM(UTC)
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I agree, the way it's accurate and excellent.
However I reckon that every traveller wants to know what's on, where the conductive path is passed on him, etc.
For the iithera the way from Lagazuoi, if I'm not mistaken the trails and one-way 402 412 me managed to confuse. The map helps.

Anyway who would like the maps, both with delivery.
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#1679 Posted : Tuesday, July 7, 2015 5:42:13 PM(UTC)
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The point of knowing where you are completely different from Israel (for me).  Going from REFUGIO to REFUGIO and didn't know what

Town or REFUGIO are elsewhere. Now that you remind me of so declining to put DIBONA route description

Deep in a backpack and forgot the trails along the way. So split between 401 and 402 pulled the map that was.

What was the problem with you with 412 and 402-

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#1680 Posted : Wednesday, July 8, 2015 8:37:42 AM(UTC)
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The comeback:

If I'm not mistaken another exit tunnels for peanut some wondering about the reference to 402. Then I got up way and steeply to a ridge rather than pull in moderation to 402 later managed in the minor axis itself and what trust falling to drifted with DIBONA dirt road winds and missed the reference to 412.
Which led me ultimately km or two North to DIBONA.

Anyway, one way or another I was going to finish in the DIBONA.

In two minutes I stopped to Cortina with a pair of צ'יליינים and we have memories way in Chile trip many years ago.


I think a minority iltim/cell markup this territory, together with cumulative fatigue (beyond that night I slept too bad) and reflections and thoughts of termination for causing these errors to occur.

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