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#1901 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 8:00:55 PM(UTC)
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Amit,

There is a store in oilabasha and even store, but if you want a more serious brand stores so we have to go a few minutes east of town doviazzo (Dobbiaco).

No problem go to skotoni for 20b. Neither is recommended in the Hebrew story. It is more challenging and more beautiful.

From skotoni to Abreu's story with two cable cars for three hours. It should add about an hour on the terrace of agsvi and serial tzinqua in time.
That means about 5 hours before you do check in rafiog Abreu. If you depart at 8:00 standard you reach Abreu on 14.
One hour early considering making ferrate Abreu takes an hour each as Greece and no dinner is served before 7 pm.
So whether you lose cable and cable lagsvi to skoiatoli is a question that depends on motivation and deadlines.
If you want a day of pampering with a long pause even for lawns-Galina rafiog's, then use cable cars. I promise I won't have qualms.
I've recommended you to get off agsvi-rafiog to palzergo the way to Paso Gallery of agsvi. This adds you almost an hour of activity on the way down.
As far as I know, the equipment rental via ferrate in rafiog Abreu. In case you can call and check.
In my opinion, if all you want to do is just do Prata Abreu, via ferrate set?. This track really requires.
Anyway, you can buy cheap ferrate set oilabasha or doviazzo before you start the course. The price moves around 80 euros for a complete set.


Surrounding mount pelmo, staulata rafiog should take about 5 hours with lunch in Venice to which rafiog is only after crossing.
5 hours is a little generous assessment. Who better to do it on tv for four hours and less fit, take a look at the weigh in and give up.
Again I remind you that hundreds of Israelis have already done for the track and I only know of two groups who had crossed the mountain. Are you going to be the third team
If yes then get photographic evidence.cool

A very successful design. If he wasn't so successful, so I wouldn't suggest it.
Just remember that to cross mount pelmo Schedule calendar, you give in a nice rafiog to rafiog agsvi to Divonne.
Not something you can't give up on him, and certainly not anything equal to the challenge and mount pelmo bhatziit yet.
If you had another day so I could gain some more tracks for the enjoyment of all participants.

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#1902 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:28:10 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Amnon Paulose; 605449]

Excuse me but all hell breaks loose in Zechariah message that borders on contempt.
I try to be my business.

Option 1 is the distribution of the Guide track. It's easy, but the Division 2 of 4 public rpiogy are employed with Doghouse.
If you have problems with cold showers, bulls and duplex in crowded room-so this is definitely a good option for you.

Option 2 I have no idea what you wrote there.

Option 3 is the best Division in the Forum a great gym owners. There are nights in the best rpiogy, but days are long and hard.

Therefore, in the end, I don't know what you want. If you want Lollapalooza on 4 days, do option 3.
Before we talk about leaving the track, you need to decide what you want.
You're talking about reverting without specifying where. Back to the airport? (So where do you land?) Back to Bryce Lake? (You with a rental car?) Back to Cortina? To Israel?

Hey,

Pardon my muffled message.

We want to do five days in orbit, rest (don't run after time and walking will not be too long).

Currently not bought a ticket, therefore we are flexible on the destination. Want to fly in August.

At the end of the runway due to revert to him reach Italy. Total want to spend nine days, so there is no pushing when the track ends and we remain at the price the next day to go to the destination country.

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#1903 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:32:40 PM(UTC)
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Uki. You intend to rent a car?
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#1904 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:51:31 PM(UTC)
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Tilapia, good night

I think that at this very moment, nsgrano on the runway.
About mount pelmo.:-) itgart

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#1905 Posted : Sunday, May 29, 2016 11:59:13 PM(UTC)
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Hello

Thanks for all the information on the Forum, and the attachments to the front page-so far they helped us and we respond to all questions.

Another question not found her answer in the meantime regarding HB vs B & B in rafiog:

We are planning to do the first five days on the track, and sleep rafiog. Most have an option to order half board or just bed and breakfast. We'd love to know what includes dinner for half-board plus, for one who neither eat vegetarian a lot-which both pays more?

Thanks a lot!

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#1906 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 12:37:41 AM(UTC)
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Dinner under HB is big, hearty meal and highly recommended. It is designed to satisfy hungry travellers and almost always worth the money.
Dinner is meat, without exception, and therefore not suitable for vegetarians. However, most places can also prepare dishes vegetarian as part of half board.
Breakfast half board usually pays that order it from out considerably more expensive and usually amount to be smaller.
In case you would be best to just give up on half board and a vegetarian dinner from the menu. If she doesn't eat much, so the quantity is enough for her. (Half board supplement have)

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#1907 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 7:47:50 AM(UTC)
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In principle a preference is not to rent a car. But if you can't run faster then rent.

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#1908 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 9:57:42 AM(UTC)
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Hey

8 DAYS

Day 1 (3) Lago di Braies to Refuge Biella

Day 2 (4) Biella Refuge to Refuge Fanes

Day 3 (5) Fanes Refuge to Refuge Lagazu?i

Day 4 (5) Lagazu?i Refuge to Averau Refuge

Day 5 (4) Averau Refuge to Refuge Citt? di Fiume
Day 6 (5), Citt? di Fiume Refuge to Palafavera Refuge
Day 7 (5) Palafavera Refuge to Refuge Tissi

Day 8 (6) Tissi Refuge to Refuge Passo Pab.duran

Or

7 DAYS

Day 1 (4) Lago di Braies to Refuge Sennes

Day 2 (3) Refuge to Refuge Fanes Sennes ( Lavarellaor Refuge)

Day 3 (5) Fanes Refuge to Refuge Lagazu?i

Day 4 (6) Lagazu?i Refuge to Refuge Albergo (Passo Giau)

Day 5 (6) Refuge Albergo (Passo Giau) to Venezia Refuge

Day 6 (7) Venezia Refuge to Refuge Tissi

Day 7 (6) Tissi Refuge to Refuge Passo Pab.duran

Is it depends on the time of arrival and time of the beginning of the Trek?

What is the difference in terms of orbit-an orbit with REFUGIO or that a different route?

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#1909 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:05:45 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = ben. zecharia; 605495]

In principle a preference is not to rent a car. But if you can't run faster then rent.

Do the first five days by what ever Division track for 10 days.
The Hebrew story and post the first explanation how returning from Paso GEO to Cortina and from there where you need

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#1910 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:08:00 AM(UTC)
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עופר888
Do fine alone or others.

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#1911 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:21:40 AM(UTC)
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Fine tilapia, you don't have to answer all thanks for all the help so far.

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#1912 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 11:21:09 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = עופר888; 607382] fine tilapia, you don't have to answer. Thanks for all the help so far. 


I will explain what my problem is Ofer.
Like your walking on TMB, you are bombarded with all sorts of programs and request responses.
How can I treat it? Start walking program and standardized and different responses and reinforcement for the same program.
Now you throw in two programs air walk you copied from first in English and the other in Hebrew recommendations.
What do you want to know? Walking plans question better or less than a previous plan?
You want me to explain in detail about each program? Do you even understand what the meaning of the other plans.
Did you check on the map the layout? Are you don't care where you sleep?
Is it irrelevant if you're cool with crosses mount pelmo or not.
Like what? What you're throwing here plans without knowing them.
And learn before you bombed and then focused with what you want to accomplish and get emotional reactions.

Edited by user Monday, May 30, 2016 11:51:33 AM(UTC)  | Reason: מצטער שאני מאבד את הסבלנות אבל אי אפשר להאכיל בכפית כל אחד כל יום 13 שנים

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#1913 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 12:15:15 PM(UTC)
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Hey, Amito
My date and I did the track last year. We also rented a car in Munich and drove to the trailhead, here are some tips:
1. about rims shop-outlet mall in Brenner crossing on the border between Italy, Austria to check in Google maps, it is likely that your route passes through it. There are several tours as well as supply shops, clothing stores and super small. Not everything is cheaper there but you can find some interesting things (my partner bought a short tour of lafuma 19 EUR). Anyway, this mall is a convenient place to stop and take a long trip — including coffee or hot chocolate at Cafe loacker (get shot down with a hot drink!).
Http://www.outletcenterbrenner.com


2. about the car we left the car in the public parking lot on doviako, a 3-minute walk from the bus and took the first bus in the morning. It also saved the day last time we started walking from pian de fontana to the bus at 9:00 and after 3-4 buses and timing (and with any luck in Exchange) arrived back in doviako and ride at 3:30 so we had plenty of time to wander around the town. That night we sleep at the youth hostel at doviako-we got a private room (with 2 single beds) and a bathroom with a shower.
3. about maps-as already mentioned in the Forum, you can buy all the relevant store maps in the Lake at the beginning of the track.
Enjoy!

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#1914 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 12:51:33 PM(UTC)
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Thank you very much.
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#1915 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 3:54:53 PM(UTC)
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Okay, I'm going to focus:

Day 1: LAGO DE SENNES-BRAIES

Day 2: (LAVARELA (or fannes SENNES.

Day 3: LAVARELA-LAGAZUOI

Day 4: AVERAU LAGAZUOI.

Day 5: CITTE AVERAU-DI FIUME

Day 6: CITTE DI FIUME-TISSI

Day 7: TISSI-PASSO PAB.DURAN

Is there a rainy day and too long for your opinion?

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#1916 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 4:22:22 PM(UTC)
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Your final plan.

AMITO:

Also at the time I hired a car in Munich with a friend who came from Brussels. In retrospect it was unnecessary.

The trip from Munich and back was long and tedious parts of the highway were crowded

Including some traffic through.  If you have specific plans for Munich or anywhere else, Park

A rental car for a week or more at the beginning of the track.

As easy to get to the trailhead is from Venice and back. If you want to travel after the track,

Can I rent a car in Belluno.

About the perfection of equipment (if travelling by car): it's better to do it in one of the towns in the way. Easy to store (you pick)

And cheap rates.

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#1917 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 8:47:10 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = עופר888; 613170]

Okay, I'm going to focus:

Day 1: LAGO DE SENNES-BRAIES

Day 2: (LAVARELA (or fannes SENNES.

Day 3: LAVARELA-LAGAZUOI

Day 4: AVERAU LAGAZUOI.

Day 5: CITTE AVERAU-DI FIUME

Day 6: CITTE DI FIUME-TISSI

Day 7: TISSI-PASSO PAB.DURAN

Is there a rainy day and too long for your opinion?

It is very convenient and walk untill the Paso-Duran
The only amendment I can offer you is to replace the rafiog Cit? de Fiume's accommodation in staolance in rafiog.
Cit? de Fiume won here in the Forum the dubious "rafiog the worst runway.
This is not something of the past but repeated evaluation of the last ten years.
Therefore no reason to check the place out. Half an hour after it has staolance rafiog.

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#1918 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:10:44 PM(UTC)
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Hello again and thanks for the reply. I wanted to ask one thing, technical topic again less interesting but ...

Planned to sleep one night in Abreu or skiotoli, but in each cabin sites that are significantly more expensive than other private cabins we ordered. So we were thinking about the possibility to sleep in צ'ינקוטורי rafiog near and far cheaper. The problem is not finding all the recommendations on רפיוג'י, a little suspicious so we wanted to ask what his level is recommended. It is important to note that if there's a significant difference, we would prefer to pay more and sleep instead.

Thank you.

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#1919 Posted : Monday, May 30, 2016 10:56:19 PM(UTC)
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Both infinitely from the CINQUE TORRI.

Especially where excellent AVERAU and this cabin is worth every euro.

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#1920 Posted : Tuesday, May 31, 2016 1:31:16 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = namnam; 613179]

Planned to sleep one night in Abreu or skiotoli, but in each cabin sites that are significantly more expensive than other private cabins we ordered. 

All depends on what you consider a significant price difference.


The price of this rafiog tzinkootori


The price of this rafiog skoiatoli

You can see that difference to stay in half board room is 7 Euro per person and dormatori 10 euro per person.
So if you do count in double dormatori, so you can really read 20 euro difference. But in private accommodation, it's only 14 euros and less significant.
Besides, tzinkootori's list is 2015 and there could be a price markup 2016.

Abreu is on a completely different scale rafiog and giving value to price ratio is even without comparison in relation to both f.

Now about tzinkootori rafiog himself. Israeli Forum also haven't been sleeping there, so no opinion.
In General, this ski resort and the three rpiogy (tzinkootori, skoiatoli, Abreu) are Web standards rpiogy. Meaning good.
But tzinkootori has three disadvantages in relation to the other:

1) Highway comes to him which means cars are coming, and parked all day on rafiog.
2) is very small and quite old. I went there twice and he didn't have any desire to enter. He could have been restored since. I have no idea.
3) is the worst view rafiog in relation to others. Behind the stalling of the five rocks that's pretty much all. The other two are in another League of

So in conclusion, I say. The way I do this route again, zero and to exploit the best place.
Serial tzinqua rafiog far from equivalent to skoiatoli and especially to Abreu. So it's not just one life but make AV1 once.
Change in rafiog Abreu and these will be 30-40 euro added that least hurts you on them.

But I'm not getting to people. Everyone will support.
If you decide to sleep in tzinkootori, we have reviews and pictures of him.

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