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#201 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:00:53 AM(UTC)
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To my understanding, the barma is unmanned cabin.

We moved there and built according to the caption that it is a Self catering Chalet –

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#202 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 6:41:11 AM(UTC)
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You're right LA BARMA unmanned.

Is a guide that appears in the opening message believers? (No ahowim for weather etc)

Example:

Compared by the sign on the ground that only 4 hours. It's a very big difference. think....

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#203 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 8:08:46 AM(UTC)
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As you know, time is very dependent on the conditions.
Us as a group, in terms of cold, fog, rain and snow, it took 9.5 hours.
It is likely that if the weather alone, then four hours were enough, walking without a break.

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#204 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:58:07 AM(UTC)
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La Barma-last year I went to the cabin with a bunch of American travelers. Instead there was a young man who tiachsk and graced us with a cup of coffee.

The cabin was empty of guests and it seems that the guy couldn't see a soul for several days is good.

There's water, toilets, kitchen and bedrooms.

As for the time-I think you can do this in four hours unless you run a fitness peak Alpine.

This part has two alternatives: one, the longer (and recommended) through the other way from Termin station Col Col de Chaux.

The difference between them is.

In the picture I took on Col from Termin station you can see that the distance between Cab. To Col du Mont Fort de Louvie is 4:10.

From Col de Louvie to Cab. De Prafleuri has at least two hours.

Hence the minimum uninterrupted time to an alternative is about 6 long hours and short as 5.

And in General, I think the point of the Grand desert makes this more for alpine trail to Pearl.

You don't want to hurry, take your time and enjoy.

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#205 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:27:43 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 632047] La Barma-last year I went to the cabin with a bunch of American travelers. Instead there was a young man who tiachsk and graced us with a cup of coffee. 

how do you know that the young man is getting stronger? In the kitchen there were instructions used for guests and it was clear that there was no food but serving self use.
I think this place is used by tour groups.

Rafiog La Barma

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#206 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:44:21 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 632047] image taken from Termin station at the Col you can see that the distance between Cab. To Col du Mont Fort de Louvie is 4:10. From Col de Louvie to Cab. De Prafleuri has at least two hours. Hence the minimum uninterrupted time to an alternative is about 6 long hours and short as 5. 

I think you have a mistake in reading the signs. The sign (2h30) specifies the time walking than from Termin Station Mont Fort cabin Col via Col de Chaux this difficult route.
From Termin station walk from Col to Mont Fort hut in the normal way is practically all downhill and takes half the time.

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#207 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:13:45 PM(UTC)
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ה"קצרה way" took me about 7 hours a day gross with inclement with rain and snow.

Many sections seem way so

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#208 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:16:18 PM(UTC)
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Yes ... And we follow that day. So it just seems. Pretty depressing, actually.
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#209 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:27:55 PM(UTC)
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Indeed surprise home tonight when you arrived after dinner wet and tired.angel

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#210 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:37:12 PM(UTC)
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How do I know which is stronger? Because I talked to him and he introduced himself as such. What other options did

Rather than serving food there, said the kitchen is definitely to use myself.

As for time-perhaps you're right. Anyway according to my guide (pretty erratic at times) the distance between Cab. Fort du mont to Cab. De Parfleuri

The long way is 14 km, walking time is 6-7 hours (uninterrupted), height changes are 740 m, 885 m ups downs.

The opposite direction it might take a little less time.

Edit: Oh, and I forgot that there are those who go with 5-6 kg compared to other backs who go with at least 12 kg (tent, pounds, etc.)

Another edit: apparently the blue sign in the image uploads is the one that indicates the time and therefore need to download 40-times I mentioned.

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#211 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 1:04:15 PM(UTC)
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My bottom line: experts quoted in a friendly guide. If the sign is registered for four hours and 5.5 hours manual

This is an estimate. All in good weather, Tanna without fog and snow, etc. Go with up to 7 kg. .. Water, i.e.

Dates and a pillow. thumbup. Plan according to the welcome message distribution, September 16 will be similar

To September 15 boohoo . Go here for comments.

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#212 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 1:06:05 PM(UTC)
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I thought about the possibility that the guy just sleeping period and graced you with coffee as a courtesy. Since talking with him, the issue is closed. What is important is not a standard cabin.

And on schedule. There's still something doesn't make sense. The sign indicates that two and a half hours to Mont-Fort and 45 hours to La Chaux cable car station.

The thing is, the cable corresponds to lots listed in relation to Cole and the gap between Super is only 800 m, so no chance for 45 minutes of difference.

I found a picture of a network than voice old theremin.

The old sign you can see times are similar to the cable car station and a lot of detailed cabin and it would make sense that are quite acceptable.

Then there are two options. Or a mistake in one of the signs, which doesn't make sense happens in Switzerland, or that it is a walk through Col de Chaux.
Blue sign indicating 1:40 to the top of Mont-Fort, the second option because the Swiss bstandert, blue signs indicate variants.

But I still have a little problem ... Because the direction of the Col de Chaux road walking should be in the direction of Col de Louvie and sign faces there.

In short, the sign is not clear at all and have to rely on a schedule specified in the manual and take them as temporary conditions NET.

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#213 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 1:09:48 PM(UTC)
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What is this?

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#214 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 1:34:19 PM(UTC)
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It is not clear what the sign says. Do write ALP Trekking? Or ALP cycling or something else. It's a sign of something specific. Maybe a jogging or of via Alpina.

Saw notations of network Trans Swiss Trails are in green color. So it seems the Swiss path.

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#215 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 5:17:18 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 632057]

What is this?

In my opinion this is a highlight of the Alpine Passes Trail that is national trail no. 6.

See here: http://www.wanderland.ch/en/routes/route-06.html

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#216 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 10:28:52 PM(UTC)
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Here to enjoy free program. I guess there is no problem with the signs from the train station in Zermatt

Until the beginning of the path towards TASHALP. Right?

A schedule of friendly (welcome message) hopefully they explain.

About my walk. My assumption in friendly times. Comments will be accepted.

Where would you do a day, if at all?

If you have any recommendation for a place to stay: inexpensive hotel/B & B/private room at the Inn, I would love a recommendation

In the markedplaces.

  1. Zermatt to Europa hut-6 hr
  2. Europa hut to St. Niklaus-8 hr overnight?
  3. St. Niklaus to Gruben-8 hr. b?
  4. Gruben to Zinal – 7-8 hr (time depending on variation). B-
  5. Zinal to Le Sage, Les Hauderes 8 hr on the cable from ZINAL. B-
  6. Le Sage, Les Hauderes to Lac de Dix-8 hr, overnight at the hotel near the dam.
  7. Lac de Dix to Clambin – 8.5 hr. Via Col de Chaux. B-
  8. Clambin to Champex-7 hr to is no problem.
  9. To Col de Forclaz Champex – 8 hr through the Arpette Fenetre accommodation no problem.
  10. Col de La Forclaz to Tres Les 7 hr to sleep no problem.
  11. Tres Les Champs to Plan Praz – 6.5 hr through LAC BLANC. Reduction in cable car to Chamonix Mont-Blanc. The is no problem.

Thank you very much.boohoo

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#217 Posted : Saturday, July 2, 2016 11:03:16 PM(UTC)
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Is there a reason you're doing yankele orbit?

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#218 Posted : Sunday, July 3, 2016 2:04:20 AM(UTC)
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Because of better utilization of time. The flight comes to Jamaica in 10.

I don't want to start walking on the day of the flight starts in 00 ~.

There's plenty of time to arrive on the same day from Geneva airport to VISP near Zermatt.

The next day begins to go in the morning, long day.

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#219 Posted : Sunday, July 3, 2016 2:28:03 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 632071]

  1. Zermatt to Europa hut-6 hr (you don't want to sleep in it down to the town of Randa where there are plenty of good options and cheapest hotel Klein Matterhorn
  2. Europa hut to St. Niklaus-8 hr overnight? (Nikolaos set that better sleep death in Gr?chen and the lovely down to St. Nicholas.  
  3. St. Niklaus to Gruben-8 hr. b? (There are not many options there are 2-3 single accommodations "considered" (Schwarzhorn) to fit you and cheap!).
  4. Gruben to Zinal – 7-8 hr (time depending on variation). B- (Many options the Hotel Europe is a popular destination we were satisfied in point de zinel
  5. Zinal to Le Sage, Les Hauderes 8 hr on the cable from ZINAL. B- (At Les Hauderes has excellent you're sure to love).
  6. Le Sage, Les Hauderes to Lac de Dix-8 hr, overnight at the hotel near the dam. (Don't expect too much from the hotel and the restaurant, but a great view over the dam tour)
  7. Lac de Dix to Clambin – 8.5 hr. Via Col de Chaux. B- (What do you have to do in Clambin-Le Ch?ble cable to come and sleep there.)
  8. Clambin to Champex-7 hr to is no problem.
  9. To Col de Forclaz Champex – 8 hr through the Arpette Fenetre accommodation no problem.
  10. Col de La Forclaz to Tres Les 7 hr to sleep no problem.
  11. Tres Les Champs to Plan Praz – 6.5 hr through LAC BLANC. Reduction in cable car to Chamonix Mont-Blanc. The is no problem.

Thank you very much.boohoo

For a handful of Swiss franc you're going to celebrate.

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#220 Posted : Sunday, July 3, 2016 3:16:57 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Amnon. I liked the idea of RANDA instead EUROPA HUT.

This is the only cabin on my plan thus pound backpack. (expected and two lightweight sheets).

The hotel offered in ZINAL looks great but pricey especially needs to add meals.

Too much for my taste to 150 for half board.

What is in LES HAUDERES? w00t Their price above 1000 francs per night?

Do they provide bathroom with Golden ducks?

What matters to me is a bed without disturbing silenced partners in ...

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