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#261 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:34:12 PM(UTC)
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Don't forget-you have fun
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#262 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 8:19:58 PM(UTC)
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Keep yourself encouraged hope that by early September most of the snow will be gone.w00t

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#263 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 8:55:12 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = ItaiG; 632319]

Keep yourself encouraged hope that by early September most of the snow will be gone.w00t

when you start to go

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#264 Posted : Sunday, July 10, 2016 9:58:09 PM(UTC)
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Late Aug/early Sep

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#265 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 8:50:07 AM(UTC)
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There are also news-soolamot in col chavez replaced. They are shorter and well anchored
Really not scary (maybe a little)
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#266 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:06:10 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = odedor; 632328] ladders in chavez replaced col. They are shorter and well anchored so not scary (maybe a little)

The exact name is Pas the Ch?vres (literal translation meaning probably: "bold moves" or "the goat's dance moves" Ma could help in the translation more accurate.)
Another translation option I found on the net is a lifting facility Ch?vre heavy loads as you see in the image:

However, the new scales installed in 2014 and after changing it really looks much better and safe.

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#267 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:41:24 AM(UTC)
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PAS this step.

This CHEVRE goat, in which case a mountain goat. Nothing to do with ballet.

PAS DE DEUX, step dancing ballet couple.

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#268 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:45:37 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 632332]

PAS this step.

This CHEVRE goat, in which case a mountain goat. Nothing to do with ballet.

PAS DE DEUX, step dancing ballet couple.

Uki. It's tempting to think that semantic Pas = mean Pass it on pass (mountain pass) Fr. called Col

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#269 Posted : Friday, July 15, 2016 12:22:35 AM(UTC)
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Hey, I'm going out with friends at the end of August, we have 14 days with a day of rest in the middle and after reading all the information in the Forum happy to help a little more focused:)

1. how to best plan your days? I saw a lot of different options through stories, basically means not giving up parts of the course and if you had to choose between alternatives rather then the way even if it is more difficult and long.

2. we were dating and I'd love to know if tent is someone one terms problem sections at the tent? And if possible in areas that don't have a tidy bungalow for you know not care we sleep next to her.

3. is there a problem with buying ingredients for cooking? Can big buy every morning I can that day or that there are better places to buy in advance for two days?

4. are there any side trips are worth the Trek worth while to do?

5. General tips about everything that pops into your head:)

Would love to help and any partial answer answers =]
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#270 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:40:36 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = Gal Baranes; 632417] Hi, I'm going out with friends at the end of August, we have 14 days with a day of rest in the middle and after reading all the information in the Forum happy to help a little more focused:)

1. how to best plan your days? I saw a lot of different options through stories, basically means not giving up parts of the course and if you had to choose between alternatives rather then the way even if it is more difficult and long.

Doubt anyone volunteers to prepare for the program, which I think is why don't you respond so far. The initial setup you need to do yourself. Do your homework,

Learn the path and the various options And after the initial walk program formed present it here, then you can consider to be pinpointed and suggest improvements and changes.



2. we were dating and I'd love to know if tent is someone one terms problem sections at the tent? And if possible in areas that don't have a tidy bungalow for you know not care we sleep next to her.

The trail is filled with campsites, especially on the part of Swiss. The only cabin asking if camping is allowed at the Cabane de Prafleuri, had

Granted there is no and told that we recommend That reaches the area supervisors and give fines personally it didn't bother to move away a little from the cabin and set up the tent in the nook.



3. is there a problem with buying ingredients for cooking? Can big buy every morning I can that day or that there are better places to buy in advance for two days?

Surely you can't buy every morning for that day. There are places you need to stock up on food for a couple of days or even three days. After that you walk program

Be possible to refer The question in more detail.



4. are there any side trips are worth the Trek worth while to do?

I don't know, but trails I suggest you concentrate for himself, is challenging enough, what else you say you're going to go all for no abbreviations

Including alternatives More difficult I left side trips to your rest day and/or after the name for Zermatt region also know much time at your disposal.  



5. General tips about everything that pops into your head:)


Would love to help and any partial answer answers =]

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#271 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:50:13 AM(UTC)
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Thank you!
The plan is:
Day 1-arrival to the Valley and an afternoon
Day 2 – chamonix – trient (saw your story that the recommendation not to descend to Trient, whether that's relevant to planning through darpette fenetre-
Day 3-darpette-champex-trient fenetre
Day 4-champex-la chable
Day 5-cabane de la chable-mont fort
Day 6: fort cab cab de mont de prafleuri (here we have a dilemma what better alternative among the options)
Day 7-arolla cab de prafleuri (currently just planning it through cab des dix
Day 8: arolla in relatively large town legwork
Day 9-arolla la sage
Day 10-la cabane de moiry sage-according to the map it looks like going to the cabane de moiry barrage de moiry through back then do it really? Which means you can make changes in the middle of the day if you decide?
Cabane de moiry-11 day-zinal
Day 12-zinal gruben-if someone made a detour through maidpass'd like to know is it worth and whether it necessarily split the day for two days.
13/14-day griben-St. niklaus
Day 14/15th niklaus-eurupa hut (is it even possible-I've seen no reports are clear about whether for open)
15/16-eurupa hut zermatt would love to know if the design, if it's going to take us 16 days and a half day in zermatt are rather short, perhaps somehow the track to catch in zermatt?

About tent realized if set at night and in the morning should not be a problem if someone is having a problem so I would love to know that almost no information on people who travel and everyday.

Thanks in advance:) again.
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#272 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 12:42:52 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = gal_b; 632433].
The plan is:
Day 1-arrival to the Valley and an afternoon

In the Valley there is a neat campground North of the city and near the Mer de Glace called for. Also I got pm to me but tickled Views

Feel and yet so I went that day, 9 km to Argentiere, there also have camping.


Day 2 – chamonix – trient (saw your story that the recommendation not to descend to Trient, whether that's relevant to planning through darpette fenetre-

A complex issue, but not terrible. Question on areint and choose. The short oareint (facing the Col de Balme from left) descends directly to the Trient so irrelevant question.

But you specify You prefer the alternative more challenging then the oareint recto and through Refuge Between he and Les longer down you can choose

Among the alternatives down to or Trient Continue to Col de la Forclaz (camping) If you choose to go the next day to Chapex through the arpette Fenetre (only in good weather!)

The second alternative will require you to go back the next day with a short and easy way.


Day 3-darpette-champex-trient fenetre

In bad weather it is recommended to give up oareint.


Day 4-champex-la chable
Day 5-cabane de la chable-mont fort
Day 6: fort cab cab de mont de prafleuri (here we have a dilemma what better alternative among the options)

Has the wariint long way from Termin station he Col around but more.


Day 7-arolla cab de prafleuri (currently just planning it through cab des dix

The Cabane des Dix road wariint is highly recommended.


Day 8: arolla in relatively large town legwork

She doesn't really have great big fat later. There are 2-3 hotels, 2 3 restaurants and two stores to buy groceries. No camping near as far as I know.


Day 9-arolla la sage
Day 10-la cabane de moiry sage-according to the map it looks like going to the cabane de moiry barrage de moiry through back then do it really? Which means you can make changes in the middle of the day if you decide?

I didn't go through the Cabane de Moiry but moved straight to Zinal through the shorter wariint and thus saved about half a day.


Cabane de moiry-11 day-zinal
Day 12-zinal gruben-if someone made a detour through maidpass'd like to know is it worth and whether it necessarily split the day for two days.
13/14-day griben-St. niklaus
Day 14/15th niklaus-eurupa hut (is it even possible-I've seen no reports are clear about whether for open)

Last year (2015) the path was open to Europahutt hut. Regarding the second part to Zermatt: in the first part should make a detour because bridge unusable,

As for the opinion. I went only up to Europahutt.


15/16-eurupa hut-zermatt

I'd really like to know if the design, if it's going to take us 16 days and a half day in zermatt are rather short, perhaps somehow the track to catch in zermatt?

About tent realized if set at night and in the morning should not be a problem if someone is having a problem so I would love to know that almost no information on people who travel and everyday.

Thanks in advance:) again

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#273 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:10:39 PM(UTC)
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Some additions:

Day 4-le Chable Champex: short and easy day on the show, 4 hours walk lightly.

As far as I know there is camping nearby, but the place is relatively large and quite nice to move him.

Le Chable is also the place you need to obtain it for three days. Up to Arolla in my opinion there is no way store.

Your arrival day is actually day 0 and therefore your walking program for 14 days, including the day of rest, she explained.

Will you have fun.

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#274 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:31:33 PM(UTC)
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Two amendments and addition
She Arolla ski little town and in 5 Hotels varying
There's actually a great camping and frankly, probably the best track.
In addition there is an excellent equipment store of Mammut

More details about the town can be found on the website of the place.

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#275 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:43:23 PM(UTC)
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Really thanks!!!

I'd love to little notice.

Day 2 – chamonix – trient

If going through the Refuge and after Les Between fenetre darpette way can stop sleeping around Refuge Les, and Between the forth to trient-

Day 10-la cabane de moiry-sage

Is there anything special in the cabane de moiry or just for overnight and can be cut to barrage de moiry-

Also is there any free guide you can find it at some places there is a grocery store to stock up and which do not?

Thanks =]

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#276 Posted : Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:05:21 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = gal_b; 632440]

Really thanks!!!

I'd love to little notice.

Day 2 – chamonix – trient

If going through the Refuge and after Les Between fenetre darpette way can stop third estate around Refuge Les, and Between the forth to trient-

There's no reason. The cabin has a very beautiful view on the arpette Fenetre and glacier of Trient. I moved next to the hut last year at 1.9 and in

By lovely man maintains the hut. You have to remember it's not basic cabin provides a place to sleep.

Another option is to continue a little longer, to cross a stream and reach Chalet du Glacier on the way to the arpette Fenetre and should be closed at this time of year,

But maybe you can camp nearby. And don't be an accomplice to the dishwasher, do not see this recommendation but simply another option.



Day 10-la cabane de moiry-sage

Is there anything special in the cabane de moiry or just for overnight and can be cut to barrage de moiry-

Also is there any free guide you can find it at some places there is a grocery store to stock up and which do not?

Supermarkets and grocery stores on the way (by memory). You have to remember that the opening hours of some shops and can easily miss them, especially on the weekends:

Chamonix (how)

Argentiere

Le tour (?)

Col de la Forclaz-a small shop selling mainly souvenirs along with drinks and snacks and maybe a few more products

Champex-one supermarket.

Le Chable

Arolla-supermarket and small shop.

La sage-small

Zinal

Guben-a small shop with basic products adjacent to hotel Schwarzhorn

St. Niklaus



Thanks =]

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#277 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:30:21 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = stardust; 632443]

[Quote = gal_b; 632440]

Really thanks!!!

I'd love to little notice.

Day 2 – chamonix – trient

If going through the Refuge and after Les Between fenetre darpette way can stop third estate around Refuge Les, and Between the forth to trient-

There's no reason. The cabin has a very beautiful view on the arpette Fenetre and glacier of Trient. I moved next to the hut last year at 1.9 and in

By lovely man maintains the hut. You have to remember it's not basic cabin provides a place to sleep.

I went there 10 days ago, was abandoned completely. Don't know if that means something.

Another option is to continue a little longer, to cross a stream and reach Chalet du Glacier on the way to the arpette Fenetre and should be closed at this time of year,

But maybe you can camp nearby. And don't be an accomplice to the dishwasher, do not see this recommendation but simply another option.

Great idea, looks like a very cute. Col de forclaz away to that already not far from



Day 10-la cabane de moiry-sage

Is there anything special in the cabane de moiry or just for overnight and can be cut to barrage de moiry-

The place is gorgeous. Recommend not to miss. Glacier view is unique

Also is there any free guide you can find it at some places there is a grocery store to stock up and which do not?

Supermarkets and grocery stores on the way (by memory). You have to remember that the opening hours of some shops and can easily miss them, especially on the weekends:

Chamonix (how)

Argentiere

Le tour (?)  I don't think

Col de la Forclaz-a small shop selling mainly souvenirs along with drinks and snacks and maybe a few more products

Champex-one supermarket.

Le Chable- has at least two large supermarkets

Arolla-supermarket and a small shop.

Les hauderes. GL

La sage-small

Zinal

Guben-a small shop with basic products adjacent to hotel Schwarzhorn- store no longer sells at prices with snacks.

St. Niklaus



Thanks =]

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#278 Posted : Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:40:19 PM(UTC)
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And a couple of comments:
Zermatt is a cute, expensive and very touristy, it's nice to spend a half day to day. You can of course use the town as a base for touring, but that's another matter.
And the hardest thing any Variant and don't know how challenging you and understand the nature of the track. I wouldn't go on and keyboard are severai varieties in the early days (fenetre darpette ע"ע). It is important to make the effort and gradation. Comment of course irrelevant if you have previous Alpine experience
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#279 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 12:24:10 PM(UTC)
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Getting warmed up. Unlike the personnel files and OFFLINE maps on smaterpons, go with a real vintage paper (...).

135 g Chromo, printed on both sides. I've also downloaded a friendly's sketches on A4 page.

All together weighs 50 grams. The maps look better than the prints and other maps. Go to Chamonix Zermatt.

"Description" (= list of places to go ...) + nylon that agencies keep all her eight grams.

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#280 Posted : Monday, July 25, 2016 12:49:40 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = יענקל'ה Saar; 643625]

Getting warmed up. Unlike the personnel files and OFFLINE maps on smaterpons, go with a real vintage paper (...).

135 g Chromo, printed on both sides. I've also downloaded a friendly's sketches on A4 page.

All together weighs 50 grams. The maps look better than the prints and other maps. Go to Chamonix Zermatt.

"Description" (= list of places to go ...) + nylon that agencies keep all her eight grams.

You properly equipped. Two comments:

When reviewing the book, write not only the list of places to go. Write down important notes, too. For example: If there is more than one path to the same place, or if it is necessary to avoid misleading sign, or if in the middle of her day's little suddenly.

Register temporary walk too between the points.

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