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#81 Posted : Monday, September 28, 2015 10:17:26 PM(UTC)
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Thanks, Ofer. Shiur in bridging stress. I think it's gone, and it is also being tested in the field. Leash.

Meanwhile, it's just. What will happen in 2016. ...

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#82 Posted : Thursday, October 1, 2015 4:58:49 PM(UTC)
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#83 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 3:09:12 PM(UTC)
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Great walk summary (October 2005)

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#84 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 4:09:16 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Amnon for that link. Hoping to put one of my own in 2016 (אי"ה. )...

Browse for half a minute in his way up that cheap compared to EASYBUS ALPYBUS.

And here's another reason not to go at ALPYBUS.

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#85 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:37:12 PM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה note book early enough (in my opinion with the flight). Whoever goes back too wants him to add only 2 euros per ticket, so it's really worth it.

Monk ', standing in the parking lot after the lifts on the right, look for him because he was hiding there.
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#86 Posted : Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:52:23 PM(UTC)
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The tester of difficulty. My assumption you TMB would finish in 9 days without a special difficulty.

The plan to WHR (אי"ה. ) Is for 12 days from CHAMONIX to ZERMATT.

The program begins with an increase in cable car to LE BERVENT and track with the clock on TMB Greece until CHAMPEX

And continue on to WHR ZERMATT.

The question is: is it compared to nine days in TMB, 12 days in WHR:

1. easier

2. level of difficulty?

3.?

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#87 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 3:53:49 PM(UTC)
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I was walking the TMB in eight days and the WHR in twelve (including flight and arrival day for

And including the last day was barely half a day's walk).

Which one was more difficult? The WHR is objective in higher difficulty. Bill is higher,

The long and steep ascents, the harder and more demanding mountain passes. Almost everything "for".

Yet in my mind the TMB remembered as more difficult, perhaps because it was the first alpine trail.

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#88 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 4:25:34 PM(UTC)
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I was walking the TMB in 11 days, very comfortable and WHR on 13 days until very comfortable (including unqualified europaweg).

I agree with starry. On paper the WHR is harder. But no major differences. If doing on TMB also WHR do just fine.

12 days it makes perfect sense to WHR. At best you get and give up the Europaweg and worse case-comes to the Valley and take the train to Zermatt.

But I'm always the opinion that if it is possible not to plan and dense. I hate to plan trips abroad in General, and in particular, according to the plane on 7, 9 am free., on July 11 begins. " Etc

Why not take a day spare? If course.

Beyond convenience, security etc I think have immense value in another day. For me it is essential to stop at the end of the journey and to breathe for a moment, digesting the experiences I went through before I get back to normal.

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#89 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 4:40:48 PM(UTC)
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I too went through the fun and take a day or more.  In the TMB went 10 days of them longs in terms of distance.

(28-30 km) and the rest were difficult not in terms of physical effort and not in terms of distance. There were two more days as a tourist.

The question for planning. Right now I think two weeks including flights should suffice. See what will summer.

Thank you very much friends. Shabbat Shalom and happy Hanukkah.

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#90 Posted : Friday, December 11, 2015 5:06:19 PM(UTC)
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Yes, two weeks should be enough:)

Happy holiday!

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#91 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 8:20:30 AM(UTC)
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We three friends (around 50) who plan to do the Trek in early July. Short days.

A large portion of the messages going through and still haven't found answers to a few questions:

1. do the walking in the section from St. niklaus to zermatt is beautiful thing (assuming that we don't have to do the walk through Europe trail)

2. is she a nice place family to a day of rest at the end of the Trek (or maybe worth to return to Chamonix)?

3. How are returning from zermatt to the airport?

4. how the for early July (first day of the walk will be on 1/7). Or in other words do I need to book in advance at this time?

5. some cabins, hotels tend to be to be packed along the route and consider long invite?

Thank you

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#92 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2016 8:33:32 AM(UTC)
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Hi Brad,

[Quote = odedor; 590567]

1. do the walking in the section from St. niklaus to zermatt is beautiful thing (assuming that we don't have to do the walk through a path of Europe)

It's beautiful in the eyes of the beholder, of course, but it's very appropriate to finish the route that largely Plains and easy to walk and fstorlim villages in the Valley.

[Quote = odedor; 590567]

2. is she a nice place family to a day of rest at the end of the Trek (or maybe worth to return to Chamonix)?

Highly recommend keeping at least one day to ZERMATT. The mere fact that town without infection (as I recall approximately 5 miles RADIUS) that builds on a mountainside and perpetual ski resort makes it special. There is much to do in one day.

[Quote = odedor; 590567]

3. How are returning from zermatt to the airport?

As you arrive by train ,

[Quote = odedor; 590567]

4. how the for early July (first day of the walk will be on 1/7). Or in other words do I need to book in advance at this time?

In my opinion, not busy enough to justify in advance, maybe just for the first few days or places known for the irreplaceable load as MONT FORT. From experience, the weather in early July not yet stable enough to know exactly where you end every night.

[Quote = odedor; 590567]

5. some cabins, hotels tend to be to be packed along the route and consider long invite?

I didn't list it because we were with tents, but suggest you go through the map and see which places have an individual cabin for the planned without other options on track (or the intersection of routes are known) and will generally peak load.

Enjoy.

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#93 Posted : Friday, January 29, 2016 8:55:18 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = odedor; 590567]
1. do the walking in the section from St. niklaus to zermatt is beautiful thing (assuming that we don't have to do the walk through Europe trail)

In my opinion there is no need to decide now, leave it to the end of the trip, basically, one day it just a little short for my taste.

2. is she a nice place family to a day of rest at the end of the Trek (or maybe worth to return to Chamonix)?

Yes, like I said.

3. How are returning from zermatt to the airport?

Recommend to buy Super card application of Cyber University, wrote about it in my story attached.

4. how the for early July (first day of the walk will be on 1/7). Or in other words do I need to book in advance at this time?

This is not an unexpected season, special load. You can do without a lot of detail, and I too have nothing to worry about because there are options almost everywhere, even in my story and other alternative spaces of almost every hotel and town.

5. some cabins, hotels tend to be to be packed along the route and consider long invite?

Recommend not to preorder except night and maybe two. Easy to handle, so if anyone speak French at all. Go with a plan that will be the basis for changes.

Thank you
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#94 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 1:12:37 AM(UTC)
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Hey,
Thanks everyone for the information.
Me specifically and all others who did you see tents with special problems, such as the owners of hostels etc. not camping rule?
In addition, my partner and I planned to go the TMB but little thing whilst because he feels very ' industrialised ' (full cabins, towns, ...). The WHR is in comparison a little more?
He is planning to leave in early September.
Thank you to everyone.
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#95 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:58:21 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = Itamar; 591172] Hi,
Thanks everyone for the information.
Me specifically and all others who did you see tents with special problems, such as the owners of hostels etc. not camping rule?
In addition, my partner and I planned to go the TMB but little thing whilst because he feels very ' industrialised ' (full cabins, towns, ...). The WHR is in comparison a little more?
He is planning to leave in early September.
Thank you to everyone.

No special problems encountered or subordinates, repeatedly asked for permission to erect a tent (in a private area or near cabins) and once we have enough uphill village. However this style can match anyone who goes to sleep close to the dark and fold up the tents during the course and not leave anything on the field.

WHR than isolate what TMB but not much, however it is a track that goes between the huts and villages as part of it. I guess you can select tracks (and missing) if want specifically to avoid people/villages.

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#96 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:27:22 AM(UTC)
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Thank you for your answer to me,
Between towns and cabins-no problem. For comparison, when we walked in, we were able to feel GR11 insulated enough. Do you have the ability to compare to the WHR in GR11.
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#97 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 10:40:49 AM(UTC)
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I went the WHR in September (2011) and TMB from late June (2010). The WHR as full track is significantly less-popular TMB. But since moving in tourist towns – you can't say he's isolated. Especially around those towns have a lot of hikers on the trail.

The only section I feel so isolated that the Grand Desert. Perhaps the section around Groban. In total in Switzerland (although he considers) is "engineered".

I can't compare to GR11 because I wasn't him but went the Carros de Foc igoastorts Park (in September) and he gave a better sense of "touch" (but this route runs entirely in the Park, so maybe it was).

To summarize: sounds more like WHR (TMB.) but if the insulation is very important for you, I'm not sure how they both meet on this requirement (which, as noted אע"פ the much quieter in General, especially outside this weekend).

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#98 Posted : Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:29:39 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Itamar; 591175] Thank you very much for your answer to me,
Between towns and cabins-no problem. For comparison, when we walked in, we were able to feel GR11 insulated enough. Do you have the ability to compare to the WHR in GR11.

I haven't had a chance yet to go in GR11 although he quite high on the list.

Anyway I don't think there's anything to worry about in WHR especially if you are experienced and can/want to skip over sections "prefabricated" through side trails not nameless.

One of the unique experiences we had on the way for this narrow path isolates with full Russian bridges and other surprises to bypass immigration and high ridge's crossing during storm and threatening rain.

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#99 Posted : Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:36:07 AM(UTC)
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[Quote = Itamar; 591175] Thank you very much for your answer to me,
Between towns and cabins-no problem. For comparison, when we walked in, we were able to feel GR11 insulated enough. Do you have the ability to compare to the WHR in GR11.

Itamar thousands around the region in where and I include in this also the high ranges in Switzerland gives you what you remember aprinas. This area is famous and many want to see the mountains.

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