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odedor  
#181 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:40:54 PM(UTC)
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From lac blanc can be reached (from experience) in a day by the end of the Trek and also one which is rafiog hours before ending the Trek (looks very nice, don't remember his name).
I think kormior too, and the old town across the River (named dolona in my opinion) very attractive and mostly provide a treat for refreshment after 4 days.
The next day, if distant, Elena can go only to the val ferret chalete or until the next day to still ironing that one out at la fouly easily.

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#182 Posted : Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:34:47 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = odedor; 591049]

From lac blanc can be reached (from experience) in a day by the end of the Trek and also one which is rafiog hours before ending the Trek (looks very nice, don't remember his name).
I think kormior too, and the old town across the River (named dolona in my opinion) very attractive and mostly provide a treat for refreshment after 4 days.
The next day, if distant, Elena can go only to the val ferret chalete or until the next day to still ironing that one out at la fouly easily.

The last hut before for Refuge de Bellachat called and it looks lovely! The landscape there.

Who has time for it seems a route to end but I recall the conditions there are very basic (I think no showers and WC on only outhouse, outside cabin) but maybe I'm wrong because I didn't stop there. This site (in French) who wish to obtain more details: -bellachat.com/http://www.refuge

About the old neighborhood just before crossing the river and the road to the Centre of Courmayeur- Dolonneis called.

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#183 Posted : Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:54:26 PM(UTC)
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Refuge de Bellachat looks great! I have no problem with basic conditions, and I think I prefer really the last day will be shorter and have more time in Chamonix Mont-Blanc.

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#184 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 2:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Several conclusions of the trek that could be useful. (In September 2005)
Case weight: minimum equipment minimum weight, maximum fun.
If this is not the case for tiiiachstam weight: 22 lbs before I carried water and the first three days were a nightmare. The left half of the equipment kormior (Venezia, close to the bus station) and on the last day before the flight, traveled by bus (35 minute ride leaves twice a day at 9:30 and 17:30 and returns at 18) Chamonix to kormior and picked up.
Recommend critical places (if there are no more multiple walk) to book ahead.
On the last day in Chamonix Mont-Blanc hotel LES AIGLONS has cost 50 euros. Close to the cable car and the town centre.

You can fly to LYON with TRANSAVIA and bus (15 euros) or train (45 euros) to Chamonix Mont-Blanc. Lower your trip in 100-200 euro
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#185 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:54:51 PM(UTC)
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If you went with pounds and left half a kormior still had plenty of surplus equipment
Over the pod's pounds, including the backpack itself before (and I would jump in here and say that it is also possible with 6 kilos) of Justice

Flight to Jamaica can be found (in the order several months in advance) and some 200 euros. I find it hard to believe that it is possible to save over 100-200 euros. It very much depends on the season and not a little luck.

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#186 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:57:36 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = Nadav Yaish; 591073] carried 22 kg bag before water and the first three days were a nightmare.

Next time take 1000 flyers is less than 3 pounds, they bring benefits.

Ali members threw rotten eggs because I want to take 10 kg backpack with k chocolate and pounds. ...

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#187 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 6:09:09 PM(UTC)
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Most equipment Shayla was photographic equipment (tripod, extra batteries, filters, and the gopro equipment.)

(0 d) and lens (17-40) pounds, but the remaining images to remember were worth the effort.


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#188 Posted : Saturday, February 20, 2016 6:38:31 PM(UTC)
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Beautiful picture.

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#189 Posted : Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:11:52 PM(UTC)
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Hi Forum pros

We're a couple aged 50 minus and early summer walk the TMB. Start lzosh, against Greece the day after landing.

Read the whole Bible- Forum pages 93, Amber's wonderful story IO, and more information and case studies here and there. Also acquired friendly's book and a map.

Building the main accents: a. not to tear the shape and therefore make your way religiously without accessories such as transport and lifts; B. where you can sleep in a double room.

Would love to use your experience and gain experience about the track:

Day 1 – lzosh to Liege kiosk that allows to shorten the first day without the high variant.

Day 2 – a hut to hut in Liege venhom-distance and level of difficulty on this day explain? I saw that begin today in La contmin.

Day 3 – a venhom hut kombl-report to kaven move will allow us easy extension of the day skipping Elizabeth.

Day 4 – report to kaven kombl kormior.

Day 5 – El kormior??? -Deciding between Elena, cabin and Chalet Val.. Is one better? Benefits? Cons-

Day 6:??? To La Foley.

Day 7 – Polly dress to the map.

Day 8: map to Trient.

Day 9: from Trient to ארז'נטייר, which is a bit off the track (from what I gather about 15 minutes off the road), but currently booked this tour a name that fits our terms conditions. Does sound likely to go there, or insisting on the way?

Day 10 – Al Pack ' pellagra rafiog. hot recommendations calling on Lac Blanc-is there a way to bypass the ladders and get there in a more or less acceptable? In addition I had thought maybe doing short day here and sleep in Lac Blanc (instead of spending pellagra), stay and walk around and enjoy it. The next to last very long day or up to a little sister or a little shorter and end in Chamonix Mont-Blanc. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

Day 11 ' pellagra rafiog (or black lanak) to sister (or trust)

Many thanks in advance ,
Ora

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#190 Posted : Friday, March 4, 2016 3:14:04 PM(UTC)
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Hey

Some of my insights (as celebrated 50 mid-Trek):

Day 2 you very long. Most people (as specified) Word contmin, from where you have an increase of 1300 m to bonham. If you start this adds miase rise (short) and. I think this is too much for the second day. If you can add a day, you can go on the second day till the next to balme bonham. Also consider the beginning of the season potentially close col fours need to go to shmpiock.

Day 3-sure (that's what I did). Kombl is a small place that tends to fill up quickly. Book in advance.

5. three options: Monti, chalet and individual or Helena. The standards can be reached the next day included Polly without difficulty. To my taste, a little far, Helena. In individual private rooms shalt and so it seems a good solution. The scenery is beautiful bonti Voss (especially at sunset). Decide from the abdomen. Any good options.

Day 9 ends "by the book" in tre la champ. Because it's not, no problem to add a brief digression.

Day 10 – lac blanc for me is an amazing place. (From experience) to sleep there and the next day go to the m. It's a long day, but possible. I arrived at 6:00 p.m. to Belzec train station. If that doesn't work out you can sleep on the road or cut down from brevent cable car or on foot in one of there.

And is there any way to bypass the ladders. There is a track that starts a little up the road from tre le champ col de montets towards.

Enjoy

Encourage

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#191 Posted : Friday, March 4, 2016 4:35:24 PM(UTC)
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[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 1 – lzosh to Liege kiosk that allows to shorten the first day without the high variant.

The location of the cabin in the Valley is great and it really makes it very easy on the first day.

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 2 – a hut to hut in Liege venhom-distance and level of difficulty on this day explain? I saw that begin today in La contmin.

You pay for short the first day Monday, long and hard. I agree with Brad, it may well be too ...

If you don't have another day to add, as offering encouraging, I think I'd rather go to La contmin (not just the go ...). If you are in good shape, I think it's no big deal.

BTW, there is another cabin on the way between Liege la contmin (du Truc) and you can also but I think it is basic and there are private rooms (double)-I'm not sure then check

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 3 – a venhom hut kombl-report to kaven move will allow us easy extension of the day skipping Elizabeth.

Guess is clouded by the conditions in the new hostel vs Elisabeta. Sounds reasonable.

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 4 – report to kaven kombl kormior.

High way, I guess.

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 5 – El kormior??? -Deciding between Elena, cabin and Chalet Val.. Is one better? Benefits? Cons-

I have a feeling more creaky ashalt (private rooms, that Elena אע"פ). It also allows you the flexibility to choose the high oariant that day (even though I went lower and it's great, it's not so critical for my taste). If staying in so I think Elena, orient the short (which is easier).

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 6:??? To La Foley.

Depends on where you're staying on the previous day, but if you have power, I recommend to use oariant branches left at La Peule to reach la Poli (I wrote about a blog). He's very cute and this walk down alongside the road (at least part-time).

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 7 – Polly dress to the map.

Day 8: map to Trient.

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 9: from Trient to ארז'נטייר, which is a bit off the track (from what I gather about 15 minutes off the road), but currently booked this tour a name that fits our terms conditions. Does sound likely to go there, or insisting on the way?

I don't remember how far ארג'נטייר but sounds very reasonable.

[Quote = ora; 591237]

Day 10 – Al Pack ' pellagra rafiog. hot recommendations calling on Lac Blanc-is there a way to bypass the ladders and get there in a more or less acceptable? In addition I had thought maybe doing short day here and sleep in Lac Blanc (instead of spending pellagra), stay and walk around and enjoy it. The next to last very long day or up to a little sister or a little shorter and end in Chamonix Mont-Blanc. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.

I slept but agree that Bella felger White Lake is a shgaaaaaaaaa! Real diamond even in a good track. The idea to stay by his side is certainly reasonable, although as the understanding of yourself that bad distribution of shredded day 10 and 11.

Your options are very long or 11 short track that day.

I wouldn't count on "short" to the Chamonix trails 11 of section bsoch. They seem very steep to me and I can't believe this is it. I remember seeing a track that descends to Refuge de Mont Bellachat shortly after (last track, followed by more or less starts the decline included sister) he looked tlvallllll.

If I already think about the last cable car Le Brevent – you'll have to make the decision (in which case it makes sense to me to drop the cable and do not really need to rip the knees for it to enjoy away if there is one, I don't remember).

The problem is ... The section between demonstrations this cable to he's gorgeous Bellachat. So while it's good to have an option "cut" to make sure (if very difficult), I can't recommend this option wholeheartedly.

What I'm going to emphasize it, try to avoid the very situation you rely on "short" to enjoy with this Bill when you are already tired and find it hard because it may be harder than you might think (due to the height and distance).

I think if you know yourself as relatively strong moves (physically and mentally) you can bet in Lake and walk away until the end of the track spends 11th day from the forest. It's not a big risk thanks to cable cars usually (but my recommendation is to try to understand at Brevent if bets was successful).

Otherwise, ask yourselves how critical for you to risk acceptance "by the book" of the path (without abbreviations). If not terribly critical about in the Lake because I think that what attracts you. Tops off in style with a cable car on the last day and skip a little. If you think this will depress you. renounce at the Lake.

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#192 Posted : Friday, March 4, 2016 5:07:03 PM(UTC)
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Another amusing idea to 11 from brevent shortcut or from plan praz down with paragliding.
A perfect ending to a perfect hike. Requires advance notice (and any solution to download files)
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#193 Posted : Saturday, March 5, 2016 6:02:53 PM(UTC)
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Thank you amber and for the comments and insights.

It seems that ה"גורליות decisions" are now around the tracks and population 1-2 days and 10-11.

Calculates a new route.

Thanks again,

Ora

P.s. looks like the paragliding paragliding will have to wait for me to the next life.

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#194 Posted : Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:22:37 PM(UTC)
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Late June early July relaxing times in terms of the guaranteed and very long days.

It is possible to finish the track eight days 6-8 hours in an average rate of about 2.5 mph.

We can go 12-11 days shorter. Each according to physical fitness and preferences.

Example: the VAL FERRET (CHALET (/ELENA to CHAMPEX can go in one day

Probably in early summer. If you stop spending will have to be spent on beans of the sleepy town of shoiizerit (and expensive).

I preferred to continue to CHAMPEX. It took 5.5 hours more easily including the rest except for medium rise 500 m

At the end of the day.

The weather can change, disrupt programmes. Drive over the white Valley made only in good weather. If there is an appropriate day for this trip.

That takes at least half a day, you should change plans only.

Optional start spending only because sister write English book (in French) can start at any point it's easy to get

From Chamonix Mont-Blanc with free public transport and gondola. There are four: Les Houches-Les-Champs, Tre, Le Brevent Flegere, Le

The best advice I can give about the plan is to leave maximum flexibility.

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#195 Posted : Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:27:05 AM(UTC)
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The segment override ladders built for a very steep climb of about four hours.
It is better to overcome fear.
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#196 Posted : Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:24:40 AM(UTC)
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It took me a little less (something like 2 hours + from the Valley to the connection with the path from asolamot), and I'm not going fast. It depends on the weather.
It is a steep section, which is part of the walk.

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#197 Posted : Sunday, March 6, 2016 12:33:30 PM(UTC)
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Day 1 – lzosh to Liege kiosk that allows to shorten the first day without the high variant.
----------------In miag ' for the next day. I had gotten some more after they rafiog Liege CHALET DE TRUC that has no hot water or keep contmin. It all depends on what time you start spending sister. I'd start with the Bella sister Hall to PRARION chairlift saves hours on it and on the first day.

Day 2 – a hut to hut in Liege venhom-distance and level of difficulty on this day explain? I saw that begin today in La contmin.
-------Miag right hard look I on line.

Day 3 – a venhom hut kombl-report to kaven move will allow us easy extension of the day skipping Elizabeth.
-Dear kombl. Recommend sleeping in Elizabeth to go the next day to Bertoni.

Day 4 – report to kaven kombl kormior.
----Offers in Breton. Nothing in Courmayeur. Just Kit town. The Breton landscape worth.

Day 5 – El kormior??? -Deciding between Elena, cabin and Chalet Val.. Is one better? Benefits? Cons-
-Breton to Elena. Michael on the next day. Now even in the variation, but is highly recommended.

Day 6:??? To La Foley.

Day 7 – Polly dress to the map.

Day 8: map to Trient.
---Don't go through Trient but easy to sound variation de porkelz. VAT if you are strong and weather will allow if you leave early, go through de arpet Variant. Hardest for reduction.

Day 9: from Trient to ארז'נטייר, which is a bit off the track (from what I gather about 15 minutes off the road), but currently booked this tour a name that fits our terms conditions. Does sound likely to go there, or insisting on the way?
Not until CHAMP from Argenti?re LES TRES

Day 10 – Al Pack ' pellagra rafiog. hot recommendations calling on Lac Blanc-is there a way to bypass the ladders and get there in a more or less acceptable? In addition I had thought maybe doing short day here and sleep in Lac Blanc (instead of spending pellagra), stay and walk around and enjoy it. The next to last very long day or up to a little sister or a little shorter and end in Chamonix Mont-Blanc. I'd love to hear your opinion about it.
-Ladders. From your previous arpiog I ever went and changed in LAC BLANC

Day 11 ' pellagra rafiog (or black lanak) to sister (or trust)
--From LAC BLANC went as long as you want or can. I was trying to get to the BREVENT but consider to get four because then there is a cable car down to Chamonix.

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#198 Posted : Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:41:49 PM(UTC)
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Thank you everyone for the references and ideas.

The ladders-coward. Not afraid of the cost, but the point's own height. I guess I should just look up while her so as not to die of fear (I hear here the beginning of convincing myself). Is there any way I can work on it until June.

The flexibility-unfortunately, I think we aspire to almost 0%, mainly because my experience to ensure accommodation in private rooms.

However, mention in hovels that Ethan talking by email not requested any financial commitment, so that we might be able to move in the bed-cancel orders there and elsewhere.

The choice available in towns/villages it (again) because with more options for accommodation in double room (which in that part has only shared rooms). We have no problem paying for it a little more if needed. Check the specific cabin you suggest.

Sitting next to homework.
Ora

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#199 Posted : Monday, March 7, 2016 11:41:31 PM(UTC)
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Hello.

I plan on doing TMB with some friends in July this year.

Can anyone lend map trekking.

Thank you.

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#200 Posted : Tuesday, March 8, 2016 5:59:28 PM(UTC)
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