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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2007 4:19:14 PM(UTC)
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When Moore, I have my backpack and granite irga.

I realized that I should use the mattress back to pod system (as in other ultra-light pods).

Tried and not succeeded. Anybody have any idea how to do it? (With photos would be great)

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:29:32 AM(UTC)
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It depends on what kind of mattress you have. If you have a solid (OPEN CELL I think his name was), so the technique depends on what length and width. Sometimes fold it into a cylindrical shape and put him first to backpack, sometimes on the same sky pod among other equipment back, and some pods as the GVP pod that I use put it into a special pocket in the back. In the case of an inflatable mattress, filling him, making him a shape of a cylinder, and putting it first. The rest of the equipment is put in then basically put the sleeping bag at the bottom first and then the rest of the equipment to raise the center of gravity of the shell (probably more comfortable ergonomic).  In the case of many ultra light backpacking, especially if you put the mattress inside, you'll find there's plenty of room for gear and therefore in this case it is better to keep out of the sleeping bag. That way you eliminate the need to compress it (which is also a headache and shortens the life of a bag especially when synthetic kg).

What type of mattress?

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:35:08 AM(UTC)
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So that's it. I don't have.

What I thought is to go with the backpack (full) equipment store in Chicago to select a mattress to suit (sounds something bizarre, isn't it?)

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:35:40 AM(UTC)
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Ahhh ... The message that I tried on just a mattress that costs $ 20 sucks on ricochet.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:38:25 AM(UTC)
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Yi Yi.   It'll be tricky like that. The discount mattresses are very thin, and certainly not suitable for ground control.  They work fine e.g. in shlterim on the Appalachian Trail where the tree below acts as insulation, but if you ground it's going to be cold.   Using a thin mattress in bag experiment very problematic, because his minutes don't really teach you how much volume you lose because of him.   If you come to the shop to check the mattress, may need to remove all backpack, put the mattress and put the equipment back each time you test a mattress. What's more likely to want to test different lengths of mattresses and had to cut them, which doesn't make my husband happy hiking equipment.

What you're looking for a mattress or inflatable mattress firm?  Solid is probably ZREST although it tends to shrink with use and lose some isolation.  There is another more rare mattresses last a little longer (you can find them in the gusamar limestone).  Again, it depends on how big your backpack, which mattress length you want (2/3/full length), that depends on your height.   I guess a location of granite has recommendations on the optimal mattress.   If you want to have here also ZREST mat (very short) and a mattress of gusamar which I am currently using. Both are suitable for insulation distance between shoulders below (put the equipment under the other body parts).  I'd like to borrow your mattress to try them, but I can't really give you them because I use/use them.

(I send you by email the information people will start just 21 I'd say fifty fifty chance of that I start on that day, and I'm trying to convince my friend to start with me that day).

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 12:37:54 PM(UTC)
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I am looking for a firm mattress (foam). What served me very well in the aplatim of TermARest, RidgeRest

The question is whether the accordion folding mattress won't be better than a folding mattress to roll?

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 6:47:18 PM(UTC)
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Apalch shlterim slept in or on the ground.

The accordion is ZREST need to check yourself if it fits. You might have to put it in a backpack rolled. It depends among others on several stages of the mat you want to use. 6 Summary (full pad length is 14 stages) levels are sufficient for me to isolate between the shoulders, and when it's cold I use mattress 8 stages (cut the original mattress 6 + 8) and the isolation under section and shoulders where I feel like I'm losing the most heat. That's one advantage over the RIDGREST.  In addition to ZREST have higher insulating coefficient when new, but after a month of using the isolation factor starts when shamsern begins to plummet.

Again, the site of granite should tell you the optimal mattress for your backpack

Incidentally, received the letter I sent you a Monty?

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:35:03 PM(UTC)
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In aplatim I lterim mouse.

About mattress, I think I'm going to stick with the plan of going with an equipment store and choose the most suitable mattress.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:46:21 PM(UTC)
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Cool. Just a notice to go to the store that will let you remove the mattress from the box and check it in. I guess the worst case, gusamar will be a kickoff mattresses

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2007 9:11:40 PM(UTC)
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BTW, I got your email I sent him directly either at question (with you).
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