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#1 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2007 5:07:06 PM(UTC)
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And again I walk out of my house and meets the casings for two, not the tired, busy, no gym, without consulting the forums and they were in our forum but don't ask anything too bad.

I tried to help, with each man receiving pod release guys, not suitable for walking, barely 30 liters, it's all about. The other man with a backpack cumbersome unidentified made in Israel, v. related outside water up and back, miles outside tie down huge, gravity Center somewhere behind them, wearing thick because דגמ"ח told them to go as well. Half litre olive oil, thick, huge brass etc.

What I will add what I say.

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#2 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2007 5:56:18 PM(UTC)
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דגמ"ח on what's the problem?
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#3 Posted : Friday, April 27, 2007 8:48:10 PM(UTC)
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Thick cotton, sweat doesn't evaporate, it weighs a ton. Only in Israel are going where. Nothing like putting a light that mtivsh quickly.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:03:02 AM(UTC)
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I finished last week the path and mikrit and testing this forum trip was quite different in terms of production. In my opinion there is no awareness of the issue of equipment, unlike overseas destinations are no lectures on travel or branches for the society for the protection of nature in which the emphasis is on point. Started in Eilat after two days 7 and quit because of the weight and it's such a shame but I don't see that changing.

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#5 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2007 2:48:41 PM(UTC)
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Many times I tried to go and talk lectures introduction of Dani Gaspar but the distance any time Tel Aviv, problem.

I tried to convince the couple to come and lecture, they objected strongly to talk about equipment.

Maybe I should just put a little note about our existence in their ads without telling about my equipment. Once they see the name of the site they're lowering that even we non-commercial.

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#6 Posted : Saturday, April 28, 2007 10:32:34 PM(UTC)
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What are iteprnso?
How to make a travel lachneut in the country (and I don't know overseas) has an interest in pushing for the more discerning and more heavy equipment, to interest the discerning eyes. .
My recommendation for travellers-you don't need to measure-order online, I just bought a walking poles which cost me including shipping less than getting a single pole at the store.
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#7 Posted : Monday, April 30, 2007 2:12:04 PM(UTC)
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We also came across this Friday, a giant bomb shells, lack of awareness, and more heavy equipment all the directional.

We tried to throw a word but you explain to young hospital know everything.

The solution to direct travellers to professionalism and fairness. Say there's no such thing as a mechanic, but still has some. I'm sure everyone knows one in Azzurro.

The training for: Ma, if you will, and if the people agree for-Danny Gaspar isn't there anymore-you can arrange some people want the training equipment, rotation, and went something like once a month or once a month, per person.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:38:06 PM(UTC)
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You can bring the horse to water, you can't force it to drink. Not just wrote in the introduction of equipment, but who don't bother to read it, I can't stick it to him.
And I would like to speak on the equipment.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2007 7:29:00 PM(UTC)
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Not all travelers passing through or in the Forum before I walked the path. I met a few of those who have not heard about the Forum and/or gave up training. So they don't know too much.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:01:27 PM(UTC)
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True, but many travellers running searches on the Internet.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 12:57:56 AM(UTC)
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This announcement underscores an issue that bothers me for a long time.

Many of the Israel society for holchim it their first measure with a backpack on my back. (Except maybe a field trip where they decided not to skip ...)

It's not that bad. The problem is that the term "Israel" is the one that makes them want to go on, but as a concept (or rather who and that youth withouty previous) is not suitable for.

What is the result?

At best a company want to highlight another V and thoughtful way, respect what you need (like environmental damage, improper behavior, etc), if less-company that always remembered nightmare experience so she remains always and ever changing-case conflict or another and very undesirable outcome (God forbid, wood, wood, black cat, Hamsa Hamsa ...)

I don't think I need to get a company like quest object for the day or the fact that it became a trend. I'd love more like maoninam society for children to go to Israel before it several experiences of a few days with the gear on the back before departure. Just to get some experience. And it's most important aspects.

Just some food for thought.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:04:26 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = veredb]

At Govrin has invested aimed at people that u.s. volunteer Medal and I

Recently created a long rush of travellers along with insufferable behaviors collection such as climbing the gate at 3 a.m., staying for another night without coordination group or us, repeated requests of travelers to stay one more night. Although only in advance cannot. Smoking room especially leaving the room dirty and contaminated. Ungrateful behavior that reduces our motivation to keep the room for.

This is an example of what I meant.

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#13 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:10:27 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Chillum] true, but many travellers running searches on the Internet.
ל"שביל Israel" did Google and accepted site of Tal and little and this site on the first page. Weird to have travelers who have not heard about this site. These probably didn't do a search ...
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#14 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:43:13 AM(UTC)
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So how do travelers know about "Trail Angel" They accept testimonials? The book of Bill?
IE those travellers who came to Beit Guvrin knew there was a room for, where they received the information? I don't think "workbook" trail Angels 2007, available at bookstores.

About Tal and little website:
The site was established about two years ago (both completed in 2005 SJ).
That the site is on the front page indicates that many are seeking information about SJ (tips, tables, Trail Angel)
If Tal will please and add a behavior Guide.
There's a file about light weights and need to move the content into the site so that more people would be exposed to it.


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#15 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 7:43:37 AM(UTC)
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Travel: two years ago, according to the recommendation, moved their camps and Bethesda after 5 minutes I left without ikonot anything. A week later, I came to the store in a ricochet (3) and received excellent. Not trying to sell anything. Is it the Ricochet? I do not know. Their network is based on franchises and by management.

Search the Web: there's enough of them to travelers looking for some. 2 weeks ago I met a couple of guys I met Ramon crater who have not heard about this site and of course they didn't know anything about bet Guvrin or Angel. But I heard someone at the Observatory. So there are plenty of examples of both ways, Chillum. ...

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#16 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2007 8:54:24 PM(UTC)
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I didn't say no (I am also met like this), the idea is since found Angel Network list, at least how to behave with them (and if possible "on the way" to teach him not to take the weight as in the case of n-best).
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#17 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2007 9:00:51 AM(UTC)
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About reminding equipment stores, knowing that with two sellers I think the story is very dependent on what there selling comes to you. Many times the ש'ממליצים report on gear may one day walk out of the store and have no idea what it really needs and what major or ...

The bottom line is it just up to the clerk who fell upon him, and not really in the shop or on the network

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#18 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2007 5:54:55 PM(UTC)
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I tend to agree with Noam differences between rkost and hiker. I had bad experience with ricochet and travel. After Bill a month ago, Israel had to send for repair backpack to ricochet and easy walk that I bought at twist and functional.

VAUDE backpack company went one ריצ'רצ after five days and another ריצ'רצ after 10 days, with some held ipzzor with the rest of the trip to repair Greece takes three weeks. After the trip to repair the file and he returned with just one ריצ'רצ fixed after contacting the network Board is sent back for repair and returned right after 24 days.

In call and functional after 23 days to get a new stick.

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#19 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2007 6:05:35 PM(UTC)
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There is no difference between revisions for the traveler and Ricochet, but neither give warranty warranty manufacturer. They send and the manufacturer, at once, twice, or not correct at all, it happened to me too.

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#20 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2007 4:50:27 AM(UTC)
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Nice discussion.

Until I went to normal school, and if you ever published here (?) article on ultralight backpacking, and don't change with Israel that would thus be

I'm sending a copy of this article to House hanging on the wall Usishkin and reading material for the evening before departure. Might help a bit.

No country material enough on camping, glide, and equipment. The Hebrew books in the field can count on the fingers of one hand.

During the Saturday insane idea of camping magazine, like abroad he would not be economic and fall within a year.

As for independent shops where you buy. Ricochet networks and travel facts about. In most stores (depending on the concessionaire), they don't care anymore or less, and have already priced ridiculously high. The sunsets more privacy. Who wants to repair zippers or shoe to go himself, it would take much less time. Most service in the country it is difficult. Although the seller is covered by an importer, the importer submits one for damaged goods and new manufacturer, each absorbing a bit along the way. Some people prefer to get some customer service medium.

Simply vote with their feet. Why not buy expensive items and material abroad?  If a hotplate is 40 head upwards, and is costing $ 350, what should I look for it? If well casing costs, say, $ 150-$ 125, and in Israel-1250 (!!!) NIS-Gregory Z check. why should I support the importer, and the concessionaire of the Ricochet, and anyone around? Small items-. But in this way, the networks shoot themselves in the foot. Excessive price and service? Act as consumers wise and correct.

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