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SomebodyElse  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:34:14 PM(UTC)
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I wanted to consult with you when traveling, and I guess even people walking.
Since my military service and I don't have daily case soldiers than for boot camp, I thought I'd step up and buy a bag that can also be used for the trip and the army.
I came across a case OutDoor model iager (I have no idea how to write it in English) is such a case, Ms., narrow structure (like travel case) only open in the front, so in addition to the regular bag case is also the mid ...

My question is whether this case? On a trip The army? Did anyone try it??
Another thing I would like to take the case of 70 liters, although women recommend less, because I'm afraid it won't be me.
The size is עכ"כ? The size of the mountains back system is customized and tuned. So what does it matter? (As long as the weight is saved.)
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:25:12 PM(UTC)
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Big bag:
A. BV (Tara weight)
B. bulk probably full and total weight is high.

You need to choose size bag for women bag building

The question which you trip
For Israel to have a volume of 55-60 litres (and maybe with some +).
For backpacking have bigger size bag (70 and over) since taking more equipment and in d.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:05:31 PM(UTC)
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I'm looking for a bag that also can walk with him (I'd rather be half-empty bag than not having anywhere) and can use the army, so ' 70s, mainly because the army.

Nothing happens if you walk with a bag half-full, and then he wouldn't be too heavy.

My question if it should be a problem beyond the weight I was told that because of 70 liters larger (quite a bit) it's supposed to be uncomfortable or anything. Is it true?

And the OutDoor there is someone who can give me some feedback on the firm? Good? Bad? Survive trips to Israel? Not worth it? Worth?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:08:44 PM(UTC)
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Ah, Yes. Also for Israel. But probably won't do it.
All I intend to do it during vacations from the army, so it probably would be in pieces.

In short, the trip-trip in the land of two days per week. If possible, so that's always good if I could use it after. But it's the baseline.

And mostly because volume.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:43:26 PM(UTC)
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I have a backpack Outdoor Fox 65 + 10-weight 2.5 kg very. Done with the path. Except for the spectacle that was problematic (problem solved Meanwhile by the company) is great for me. Day trips is heavy and too large. But for a few days and a week let alone an army. The back is built very well and I'm enjoying it. The service is fine although if malfunctions have to wait about two weeks until that my backpack (honest service node). The service ishtmshti to solve the problem. In newer models the problem does not exist. My back. Space.

The way back: half-empty file sitting on your back.

Check in the store with a weight of 15 kg (including the shell) and see how you feel.

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:02:57 AM(UTC)
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Ok.. Thank you.
Actually, cases with such a narrow structure not so convenient for military but I settle.

Of course, I will try the case in the store with weight

Just told me things like that aren't good and firm international 70 liter not built (although you could back system size adjust.)

In short, thank you.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:19:12 AM(UTC)
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I have a bag of OUTDOOR
50 liter bag case went great with the Golan and Israel and much of the trail a few tracks of the week.
There is no reason to go with a portfolio of 70. country. firm but was not considered a great and I prefer a 200 weight actually hold beauty and weighs well and good, but not the firm back "than to pay for a brand.
The weight of 1,200 cases of NORTHFACE can buy 4 bags of OUTDOOR none of you fall apart.
Think all small tear in my bag that costs a lot more than 1200 swamped ruptured case costs 300.
In terms of support to get back more or less the same.

In short, OUTDOOR matches and I would recommend a maximum 70 55 litre is completely unnecessary.
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:02:06 AM(UTC)
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I realized it was pointless. Whether it be bothering if I go with a 70 but incomplete.

Because like I said, I do have a de facto military capacity.

My question is if it will interfere with or not.
That I don't need 70 litres for country I know.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:05:32 AM(UTC)
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Is relatively high.?

Tried to put on 70 litre bag back and watch it?
Nothing like just try put the case and see how it feels when you think that weight will be too big for you.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:37:08 PM(UTC)
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Problem with male female body shells is the hip straps, let women trouble relative to men and States that it is impossible to tighten the waist strap to the end and not sitting on the backpack waist but all the weight on my shoulders. It is not recommended.

Ditto about the shoulders, it is not always possible to adjust so that connect the body bag depending on the height of feminine body and shrug them unable stretch depending on the female body.

Backpack men and so on female body is rock as Albert.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:44:42 PM(UTC)
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From here you should take 60 liters?
Or give up the idea.

Now to decide should think if 60 going to the army.
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#12 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:06:49 AM(UTC)
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Knowing if your lady (or have two users with the same question just in the country, and not following that Ricochet on the topic) has a pretty good chance that 70 litres will fit you. Its not a girl is too low, and I don't think the shoulder straps would be a problem. About the waist requires testing with the bag on his back, but again, until you try not to know. To recuse it outright.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:11:54 AM(UTC)
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Hmm ... Ricochet?
Heheh ... Funny.

Yeah, okay, I'm currently dating a discount don't have a problem with.
The deal if enough 60 then obviously he'll be more comfortable.

I just don't know if it will be enough.

Anyway, now I need to stop being sick so I can go to both.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:56:43 PM(UTC)
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By the way, would you rather chill up large backpack half empty than full little.

This is a mistake because the equipment needed to disperse all the shell rather than the lower half.

In my experience in the past, when you take a backpack is always full and heavy and will never be ...

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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:39:24 PM(UTC)
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Yes already managed to clear.
And the intention was to grow little half-empty than not having enough. And here an image dilemma.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:12:14 PM(UTC)
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My daughters got a backpack strapped army of 70 liters. He was both. And that's without back system all you need. You can't buy a backpack to all requirements: big, small, inexpensive, for the army and for rain, theft, you look for other shells. And the dilemma inherent in the image. This is because your strike???

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#17 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:20:13 PM(UTC)
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Huh? That home What

Hmm ... I know that most of the okachimtic soldiers about 70 liters. My question is if you have 70 or ש60.
Or vice versa about.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:43:39 PM(UTC)
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Important: do not buy a Backpack Rucksack bag case but.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:07:03 PM(UTC)
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Ask army members. Israel enough for 60 litres (already have the + in each backpack). Abroad (India, South America) my girls went with 70 liters + small bag. The strike affects Hmmm ... Shabbat Shalom.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, November 1, 2007 11:44:57 PM(UTC)
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Heheh ... That is, members do not give definite answer.

Some home Students? Teachers- Feral cats?
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