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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:58:37 AM(UTC)
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Hi! The following is a list of my current equipment in the Israel National Trail (INT) (exit in early April). All items with a weight during the massacre. The list does not include food and water.

I'd love to get comments-what is better and what is lacking, to improve towards the exit.

Thank you very much.

The list:

General
Backpack-2070 g (Osprey Aether 70)
"My locker" 3-liter 160 g
Sleeping bag-600 g (Aztec Helium)
Mat-210 g (0.8 platib)
A-255 g (Aztec Solo)
-700 g (Tarptent Contrail)
-78 g (Petzl Tikka LED LIGHT)
-125 gr Shiv (vizeri)
2 walking sticks-516 g
MP3 player + earphone-62 g
Camera-320 g
Tripod-45 g
Emergency mobile phone charger-60 g
Mobile phone-132 g
Fresh 8-200 g
Harmonica-100 g
5-600 g maps
Notebook + tablet pen 80 g
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Food
Gas burner-240 g (Primus Classic Trai)
Pot & lid-200 g (double bottom jachnun)
Finjan-100 g
Climbing (greifer)-50 g
Eating spoon 10 g
Cooking spoon-20 g
Gas cylinder-360 g

Not taken into account -tap water purification/decontamination balls. (Haven't decided whether or not to take)
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Clothing
1 shorts-160 g (paper)
1-shirt 140 g (Lowe Alpine Dryflo,)
1 thermal shirt-180 g
3 pairs of underwear-150 g (regular)
2 socks-198 g (Wigwam ingenius. & liner outer)
Cap-88 g (Dry Salewa Tropica)
-360 g footwear (crocs)
Fleece Hat-72 g
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Hygiene
206-g (Aztec 85x150)
Toothbrush-10 g (brush)
Toothpaste-50 g (remnants)

Not taken into account: toilet paper and SOAP.
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RA פק"ל
Care Kit Basic-155, g
Contains: plaster bandages, 3 m roll, 4 small gauze pad, 1 large medical triangle 5 pins, 5 g of disinfectant to wounds.
Neosporin sintomicin 14 g (3%)
6 plaster-blistering gel 20 g
Nets 50 g (orangutan)
Treatment of shpshfot-100 g (actitalc)

Not taken into account: calcium and multivitamin pills, allergy pills and tylenol.
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Else
2 m thick Twine-15 g
3 m Hoa-call 3 g
3 m flexible cord 8 g
3-buckle-80 g

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Summary
6313-g
980 g.
1348-g
Hygiene-266 g
RA פק"ל-339 g
After 106 g
Total-9352 g

If I decide not to take, and don't walk on your back: 8136 g.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:19:21 AM(UTC)
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Number of points
-Duplication of mosquito and Tarptent?
-Duplication of eating and cooking
-Also removed and Finjan?
-Extra ahatzova and shacl as are five maps (which field they cover can go with less?)
This is a big, eventually your considerations and preferences that matters.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 3:20:03 AM(UTC)
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Photographer (two-sided) maps the sections you need it will save you nearly 600 grams. Yankale17 39518.014525463
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:00:54 AM(UTC)
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Big and heavy backpack (not to suck, just so you know.) If you don't tend to fill it in during the walk.

A tripod unnecessary.
MP3-...
Harmonica-f.
5-maps Take max 2, distribute the maps with friends, or get them as yankele said.
Links-some pages or small book
Finjan-have been removed.
Spoon food and cooking-discrete! Take one.

Wires climate-just one thin wire (diameter 2 mm) 3 m doesn't need more than that (you can take instead of dental floss that is strong enough, however I personally don't use it yet). Extra hooks

Purification tablets in my opinion, even if you don't use them.

All balls not taken into account.
Insert the toilet paper (one without the cardboard roll) and SOAP (just as hard, clear 7)
Stick/haliablin too.
Needle to treat blisters.
Just take a tent.

Thermal shirt? The mean one for walking (sweat funkier head band-Israel) or long shirt.
Missing pants.
Add spices, lighter and matches.

You have time until April, possibly take all the equipment for two days closer to home you can figure out what is what anymore.

This is of course only my opinion and is not binding.


Are you coming alone or with partners? You can divide the equipment if you are with a partner.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:16:31 AM(UTC)
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Did you go alone?

My recommendation is to go with a tent, several levels of quality.

About contained, that's very, very superior in numbers, against the flies. If you leave the group, recommends a double word, where you can eat and take a NAP!

Regarding the map, יענקל'ה dating service, but the difference is minor and the end of the day, much better to walk out of here, and what also sometimes nice to open it and the environment. You can see mountains and remote, and sometimes really, really boring, it's amazing how I wonder what's on the other side of the map! :-)

About the ping, I would recommend to go of Kettle, weight may be slightly lower, but not significantly, what is nice is that you can easily prepare a larger quantity (which visitors) and much more convenient to use fire, and he keeps the tea/coffee.

Hygiene:

* Consider toilet paper! Important to have ever! And I would recommend to a watertight bag.

* SOAP: recommend liquid soap, preferably on the basis of natural ingredients, if you decide to take a bath in the spring along the way, not pollute it with SOAP.

* Laundry detergent: wash the clothes, especially the socks. Not enough water. In order to prevent the appearance of warts, rashes, and other animals.

* Powder or pongimon/ondecil investors. Keeping the feet, prevents sweating and whoever gets it also helpful against odours.

Clothing: there are those who know only the minimum, but I'm not with them. Recommend taking at least one shirt, even two. Sessions and nights, it connects with the recommendation to laundry detergent. To go with her blouse for a week not defeated makes all sorts of rashes/irritations as a result mainly of the back with the backpack so I recommend taking an extra shirt and break the case than the back, walking off the shirt to fan it and another shirt, and every few days to wash the t-shirt well. Ditto socks. It is not recommended to go with her stocking over 3 days, and got to do the time, especially not always adequate stocking to dry overnight then you can't take the risk of doing 2 pairs at the same time, highly recommend another couple.

What about long pants. Recommend a takedown.

This is a great value, I always recommend coercion, very comfortable and a million uses. And weightless.

Good luck!

Jealous,

NIR.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:46:52 AM(UTC)
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You're not a little extreme? There are a million things. On the other hand, mp3 player + harmonica + tripod weigh together 207 grams. Weight a man not at all. Certainly not if he carry ten pounds on your back. On the other hand, these makers. You know how much fun to sit on top of what your key Mountain Rose, to hear music at full volume, and scream? And I'm sure if I play so it was even intensifies the experience. And because love photography, carried about twice it shopzer photography equipment. And I enjoyed every minute.

Don't know what's caused here becomes a movie. In truth. Carried me insane amounts of equipment. Pounds upon pounds. My bag weighed nearly 14 pounds. So there were lots of luxuries to enjoy them along the way. The weight? It doesn't matter anymore. If you are not running with olteraliiter pounds in a plastic bag, the average man 10-14-not so.

This is of course just my opinion.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:10:42 PM(UTC)
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Fly rod: cute carrying 20 kg backpack is unwise.

Nirati: photos of colorful maps today. Behind the information and map.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 12:26:55 PM(UTC)
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Agree with yankele (at least it. ..).
I traveled with print (printer, nothing special) on A4 pages, each was about as lightweight map one of my noilant and only half of them (until Tel Aviv one half and the other half).

On the relevant tips to write the same thing and the thing.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:45:52 PM(UTC)
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I thought this through before I left, and I decided I'd rather heavy backpack with little more than a backpack treats easy and more Spartan. Because it carried food to think some cracker easier, and we used them as a treat also entered.

And speaking of long days without water (Nahal Amud, Nahal yavne'el) carried in pod 2 liter bottles, two bottles of 2 liters and 3-liter's locker. So pack up above 25 kg in fun:)

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 4:24:27 PM(UTC)
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Don't give up and aualch.

I'd take long pants for dinner.

Another pair of socks.

Easy coat storm, April rain sometimes

From shrukim

Compass

Matches and candles

Elastic bandage

Syringes and cotton balls to treat blisters

Spar gas tank

Windscreen for thin aluminum pot

Nylon feet to meters to put before the tent not stepping on thorns or rocks or Derek or backpack when needed.

Backpack rain cover.

In principle I think, add 1-2 kg can still day, 3 liters water offered in the North and arrived at least 15 kg.

If you fit that's perfect if you're not in shape so after 5 days you will have and then you can add flavor and feel.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:25:12 PM(UTC)
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Agree with off-road,

Part of the fun is to pamper yourself, taking things to do you good, worth more pounds on his back and a little fun. Of course, taste.

(Saying that carried 2-3 pounds:-)--photographic equipment

NIR.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:05:17 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for your comments.

Some notes.

I walk alone.

I wrote down only what would be the case, I will be a long shirt, long pants, socks, underwear and shoes.

About thermal shirt, was one.

I also those who enjoy seeing all the map, and get a better picture. It might not be really necessary. Anyway, I also think that photograph will contain all the information that exists on the map (at the level of dysfunction, books and small dots)-I don't know how detailed will photocopy of map from noilant. I'll take a shot.

I'm considering taking a tent just for a sense of security (security equipment)-effect on quality of sleep. If help against ghosts/bugs/Sun.

I think a mandatory.

Ping is to heat coffee/tea and drink it while I was at Welles.

Wrote me to add:
Storm coat (just north).
Elastic bandage.
Windscreen to pot.
Coercion.
Sleeve.

I wrote to download:
Cape-and hopefully hang on asfork.
Try to change maps.

See how out ...

Thanks again.
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:51:22 PM(UTC)
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I'm still working on my list be able to compare lists

(Weight 6.5 kg)

Reflective stripe To backpack. 0.020

Nalgene – מים לבישול - 0.178

Drinking/bag- locker 0.270

מטהר מים - 0.488

In nznia MSR-0.321

מיכל דלק - 0.145

Michal Sapphire- 0.092

Covers (Need to improve). 0.091

Bowl For cooking. 0.100

כוס - 0.051

כף/מזלג - 0.012

Wooden spoon for cooking - 0.029

Plastic lighter- 0.011

Canned opener- 0.015

סקוטש - 0.015

Plastic bags for trash- 0.025

גפרורים - 0.018

נייר מגבת - 0.060

Toilet paper- 0.050

מגבונים - 0.070

טישיו - 0.013

מיטר - 0.025

Mosquito-material 0.046

פנס Pezel-0.094

Flashing- emergency 0.044

Pocket knife / סכין - 0.068

Long pants for dinner. 0.350

T-shirt T-0.162

טרמי קצר - 0.132

Thermal shirt-long 0.185

Jacket/shirt- hot 0.253

גרביים - 0.196

Socks - internal Liner-0.100

כובע חורף - 0.056

Gloves ? - 0.051

סבון - 0.040

Toothbrush- 0.033

Toothpaste- 0.029

Dental floss- 0.010

Travel towel- 0.135

Laundry detergent- 0.050

שמפו - 0.050

Dried cream /Tanning. 0.030

Shower bottle (empty)- 0.038

A sleeping bag - 1.194

מזרן - 0.248

כילה - 0.250

Pegs - 0.042

Large ring- 0.022

טבעת ים - 0.016

טפס מהיר - 0.016

Key ring- 0.001

פלפון - 0.093

Phone charger- 0.060

Batteries. AAA ספייר - 0.024

Big-bag 0.030

Photo maps- 0.045

משרוקית - 0.007

עט + דף / פנקס - 0.010

נרות - 0.052

ויטמינים - 0.024

Pain pills easy + medium 0.004

Tiponis-koses 0.015

Gauze of compeed -

Toothpicks- 0.003

Speed stick, halabilin- 0.045

Pintzata- thorns 0.017

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:39:28 PM(UTC)
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Management, what is the advantage of the Nalgene plastic bottle at all? (Besides has liquid meter)
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2008 1:46:03 AM(UTC)
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Plastics, some of those health and high resistance to water.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:21:09 AM(UTC)
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Nmrdxt-not a bad list, see notes.

Danny,

Water-Purifier. Take-5 3 emergency purification pills, when South took 10 or straw. Weighs much less.

Water bottle-each kancl will be fine, weighing 50 g.

In nznia MSR-0.321

Fuel tank- 0.145

Michal Sapphire- 0.092

Covers (Need to improve). 0.091

= More, take a hotplate of closure.

כוס - 0.051 -

Take פנג'אן, a little more weight, but you can drink straight from it and at the same time.

נייר מגבת - 0.060

Toilet paper- 0.050

מגבונים - 0.070

טישיו - 0

= Double, chop 1-2 items.

מהבהב חרום - 0.044 =

Why, if you take a flashlight and a backup main signal? Multiply.

Gloves ? - 0.051

Almost summer, don't see the need. Get latex gloves for emergencies. With a pair of socks, if yet get this source.

SOAP

Laundry detergent- 0.050

שמפו - 0.050

-Trim, 1 = 2. Hint: wash with regular SOAP or shampoo-works. Another hint: what to do with laundry soap on the trail? Access to laundry in every payment.

Pegs - 0.042

Large ring- 0.022

טבעת ים - 0.016

In my opinion, unnecessary. To contain use backpack, walking sticks and shoes like weights. The maximum string for tying something on the side.

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#17 Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 3:37:00 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the comments/suggestions.

This awesome forum.

Nageen = No aftertaste.

Aftertaste is single. In women it seems.

The bnznia of MSR יש לי מזמן.

The weight includes wind parks on the bottom I can give.

The Cup also serves as ping-titanium

Extra gloves.

Other insights are relevant but I don't close and have time until April 24.

I'm planning to see territory days it works.

There are also inaccuracies that bought me pants North face made casts of the 250 grams.

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#18 Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:14:15 PM(UTC)
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Quote:
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Nageen = no aftertaste.

Aftertaste is single. In women it seems.

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Aftertaste. For tap water, water purification, or chemical passed through the plastic of the bottle (normal litre bottle and half the FLA contained ' mineral water ')?

Aftertaste may be also other fluid that was in the bottle (e.g. juice) and it didn't actually poison.
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#19 Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 6:46:39 PM(UTC)
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That means only the taste of fiery molten plastic bottle.

Even bottles of mineral water has the aftertaste if the bottle was enhanced.

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#20 Posted : Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:27:02 PM(UTC)
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How do you get the management of 45 maps made only today I went to photograph relevant sections maps once and got (duplex) 30 g. Am I missing something?

Incidentally, I lack and what about flip-flops, sandals, hats and anything against itching?
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