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#1 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2008 3:47:00 AM(UTC)
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Hi there,

We are a group of 15-20 guys before army want to go three or four days. Overall planning is to start in the morning the first day of the launch, and finished the fourth day on zichron Yaacov.

The most important question is whether the track is interesting? :)

Considered to make birdie Tiberias area and combine a day at sea, but it seems problematic in terms of points. Right? We are looking for an easy trip.

I saw a number of water points have all 5 yagil km roughly of track circuit memory, so we will see in terms of the water. I was wondering if someone could elaborate on a generally has several points of parking, but I'm not sure if you can sleep there (or, in General, are there any accommodation points on the route for the suit). I guess we go at a rate of 10-15 km per day.

There is some kind of additional points you need to think about the team of this magnitude?

Thank you very much,

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#2 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2008 5:53:31 PM(UTC)
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Tamir, a start in the entrance to owls, (or an abbreviation to see President's Tomb), and make up to. Decide if you start early in the morning or in the evening before, staying on the ground and leave early (preferably, all latecomers etc, someone came early when there is more light and and trees). In no problem, there are plenty of parking and convenient locations. Water, relatively comfortable. Night organized dinner kehilchatah at the monks, you can order them in advance, you have enough people to share the costs. Lena Baker lawn immediately, b Monday k launch huge supermarket again immediately and can obtain. Tuesday afternoon/evening you go through Beit Oren, who keeps those who want back home.

You light weight-some food, equipment, comfortable and convenient foot sections.

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#3 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2008 7:46:31 PM(UTC)
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Create, might not understand the proposed route, but arrive at Beit Oren, the monks have to mill for 55 km +. Assuming that we're at a rate of 10-15 km per day (you should note that for 90% of those who went on the trip have such type of tours beyond the school's yearly trip), we get to bet Oren – or to be stressed in terms of hours of light.

On the other hand, if you start in launching got Beit Oren and a memory alternatives to termination points in accordance with the rate hike. What do you think?

PS: how returning from Beit Oren? Egged lines have not seen from there.
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#4 Posted : Friday, March 28, 2008 8:51:27 PM(UTC)
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M.t.parked the Pine House is 30 km from Pine House birds is about 40-42 km divide it into three days.  Shouldn't be too hard. Birds of the mill, the Mill-House monks launch, launch. Call a taxi to get you home to pine. You many people and it's not expensive taxis in Arad which is close.  There are also taxis in tirat Carmel and away will come to pick you up.

I think the offer of contact preferred because of the way. The section from ein HoD, in my memory. But if you like so go to Art Museum Dada in ein HoD, recommended.

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#5 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:55:03 PM(UTC)
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I looked in the way specified here, no. 2 and 3, and I so to place their bet Oren and reach the number k that you guys showed. Someone can give me the specific points of pine trees and birds?

Thank you
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#6 Posted : Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:18:11 PM(UTC)
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Birds (the grave of Rabbi Judah hanasi) is 8.5 kilometers by road number. Arad is the 45-mile route. This Pine House, Arad, about 7 km walk. The group itself is not on the road but two kilometers west of him, and therefore does not appear in the road. (Pine garage which appears in the book the way a 3.5 km air line west of Beit Oren). My measurement was made on map 1:50, 000 and two measurements-and me very close. Take a map or log on to the website of the Office of education and looking for the House. 39536.8049421296 yankale17
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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:11:14 AM(UTC)
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The distance between the points 12-15.5 mile shouldn't be a problem. The last day is not easy but you after 2 days and difficult launch in quits anyway.

The distances were measured in a computerized map, take another 10% penalty area "in the first two days, they are quite flat, and 20% on the last day.

Accommodation: birds or immediately. Convenient Park at the entrance to the settlement, settlement or simply Judah, despite grave event next to the cemetery is not a hit. We are on the way, Leila, farmers can get runned. Food: get ready for deployment or do-abeit hummus and salad and sausage etc, or Cook, or organise a barbecue.

Getting there: ask about lines which pass through the intersection leads-Yokneam, Nazareth, Haifa Bay. Away or internal line etc.

Day 1: grave of Judah hanasi monks station: 13.5 km water filling: 1., 2. Alon Hagalil-stress ' fuel or the grocery store. Food: day 1 to lunch-and many sandwiches, abeit West end 1-can (and should). To organize, in charge of the station and in restaurant changh.

Character: Bill Israel extract. It's kind of hard to find tiezro maps, check. 1.5 km dirt road, 3 km walkway with landscape and rashes, open dirt roads, some difficulty finding the path to] jam and steep section of the village. Bathing in the eye ". Do not bathe in the birds himself.

B: immediately, on the River, there is grassland. Worry about something nets-mosquito repellents, mosquito etc.

Day 2: the voltage-monastic living, 12.6 km. water: as you exit the station. Us 4 liters per person. Refilling: Kfar Hasidim. Character: dirt almost throughout, except for a section of path before a petition you followers. To launch: call first for the youth company, match accommodation, use of the kitchen. Shopping: there is a huge supermarket next to Kibbutz, whatever you want.

Day 3:15.5 km, before a fine surface. Immigration not eradication, slalom, long and absolutely passive. Starting up – start early, ate, and likely to carry heavy food almost outside. Took 1.5-2 litres, water and food (ready or grocery store): isfiya. Outdoors: mid stream open, losing in a dirt road. Half-a annoy trail route. To open the mirrored the increase itself is steep and, on a section. Away to open pine car parking entrance and very stony ground. If you see a coming darkness don't do it, it's dangerous. Water in the end: the Northern node. Transport: auetovus/taxi service to Haifa or Tel Aviv > DCR.

Personal and group equipment list:

Basic personal:

Walking shoes .

Backpack To go in sequence between 45 ל- 65+10 ליטר.

Bag/container for drinking water Flexible 2 or 3 litres + drinking tube ("locker") + duty: a bottle of water and a half liter empty if drinking bag on my budget, and a knclim, it is highly recommended to drink knclim nanotube, $ 65 at kancl campground, + Rick n.

A sleeping bag 7 degrees. advisable also compression bag.

Recommended: Mattress . (Puffy, or platib)

Shelter - Curtain, mosquito only (recommended), tent – less than recommended conditions unless you take a night and you sleep by the monks.

Flashlight/lantern, head to.

Blade (knife, a Switchblade-vizeri, soiskard)

Sunglasses

Group: all six map or route, both to save weight on your back, the book you want to take photographs of rlontis pages to that part only, possible photo or scan of the segments rlontis only.

For 6 persons, 1 compass, either by personal level (quality to the tiny clock/bag or micro sonto, or Silva Ranger 3/7)

Clothing:

As a rule, prefer natural clothing evaporates out. For more information, see the method.

1 pair of long trousers dry and easily, preferably made of cotton (some people recommend to fall apart, and the trousers are lighter) must not under any circumstances take: jeans, cotton דגמ"ח. If there is no budget: can sweat pants, made of dirt.

1 shorts, btant priority (also for sleeping, bathing, and itching).

1 to 2 t-shirts, evaporation fitness. Or long relief against Sun and spikes.

1 seed long shirt or light jacket. (Felice easy 200 etc.).

Hat: fleece/wool/acrylic thick, covering the ears, too. (The head loses much body heat, and if it's cold at night during sleep or in the morning, it's huge).

1 to 2 pairs of underwear. (The amount of personal choice)

1 to 2 pairs of socks, padded cotton not!!! From ndefi sweat. (The amount of personal choice)

1 to 2 pairs of socks sntatiot internal minutes. (The amount of personal choice)

1 Cap (preferably footnotes wide/long embroidered baseball cap to gionerim/")

(Personal choice.): Sandals flip flops or sandals, evening light finger (crocs, or imitation easy, etc)

Garbage bag for carrying laundry.

One grocery bag harises, without holes, carrying garbage.

Cooking:

Dinnerware-plastic or Tin plate: easy, light colored plastic cup, fork, tablespoon, or you're letting her in.

Group:

First you need to decide whether Cook alone or with the assistance of f.

If only: for 3-4 people-one a hotplate, 1.5 liter pot at least, 1/פנג'אן can clean, 1 package matches/lighter.

If you don't Cook-6 people took: 1 coffee tea sugar a hotplate and Peng 0.6 liters or small tea pot camping and coffee breaks.

Remember some of the equipment, פקל"י who carry coffee, water and food will take all but everyone take the same value.

If Cook cooking equipment group only:

The blowtorch (Recommended), or As bullshit. / או In nzinia (Least recommended) or a wood-burning oven.

Easy spirit shield a hotplate, cooking time and fuel savings. Optional: cooking system (terngy ע"ע).

Removing lightweight material, we recommend double bottom or slightly thick, preferably decaf.

Cover the pot, lightweight metallic material, diameter 1 large pot, to be used also as a pan and plate. (For example, jachnun pot cover)

Demitasse Kal to use also, alternatively: can clean.

Climbing (greifer) cooking tool, lightweight material.

Knife: knife blade or sharp kitchen knife: top round handle spreading lightweight plastic.

For 4 persons-1 folding can opener, lightweight (recommended that the Bowler's daughter, is affiliated with the uncomfortable).

Disposable lighter + backup: sealed packaging-ע"ע matches פק"ל fire

Spice Kit in opaque elephant: salt, pepper (ground grain): (optional): Hell, nuclear options, oregano and other spices.

(Personal choice): olive oil 50 ml in vial seal

(Personal choice):-wooden spoon mix short lever, Teflon or lightweight.

Glass, paper towel or dry cleaners, or cleaning cloth/pad + dance.

-Personal hygiene:

A towel in a hurry, or paint dry: tools or cloth square "and" girl, or to designate an item useful dialog supplies (triangular, t-shirt etc)

Optional: wet, packaging or by 4-6 units a day. Be careful not to get too heavy. Don't leave leftovers on the ground!

Toothbrush and toothpaste-sample or small packaging/finishing.

-SOAP 15/unit, antiseptic cookie ("cities", etc.), small psegor bag. There are taken for all purposes.

Shampoo: not mandatory, you can use SOAP, or 1 small bottle of shampoo, or little shampoo bags hotel.

Toilet paper by 15-20 g/ 1.2 m per day, twice as much to build. Flattened, protected water in rubber sandwich bag. To save weight, cardboard can be issued.

(Optional):-speed stick deodorant before, halabilin etc.

Women: stretch ' hygienic, tampons etc, the amount required.

First aid:

The purpose of the equipment to handle hygiene issues and are common and, if needed, to bring you to the nearest point alone, and full and complete. Taken at the appropriate level equipment for personal medical information, but be careful of loading supplies. Try to fit items too. (You can buy equipment successively, to organize personal פק"ל, and split the costs).

A must for every personal:

Standard-quality gauze 3-7 PCs (personal choice), preferably in a variety of sizes and shapes, of which at least 3 standard.

A normal bandage, from anmthot-1

Medical big triangle lightweight – 1 PCs (item duty multi-purpose: neck scarf, bandanna, sun shield, tourniquet, splinting and bandaging protections, sprained foot, face shield at night, an impromptu belt/leash, etc.)

Pain pills (optlgin, Tylenol, ibuprofen containers etc)-4-6 d per person.

(Personal choice) sunscreen or 1 per 4 persons, protection level, it is recommended that at least 15. In at least one small package will be of 30 degree or similar, to burn deep in the face and neck.

(Optional): talc, or pongimon.

(Optional): insoles.

Topic: supply bag we recommend siplock or psegor is transparent.  You must cut the aluminum packaging round balls, puncture prevention.

Mandatory equipment group:

A band-aid against warts – by 2 PCs per person.

Cylinder lightweight plaster 3 m , manufacturer: M sport3 or oikoplest (light, metallic packaging).

The small-strain elastic, compact 2 unit

For 4 persons-fed sterile gauze * large * small 8 4

The personal stress-6 persons, 1 unit

Scissors that can cut through walking shoe.

For 4 persons- 5 PCs-1 small safety pin 2 medium 1 large. Used also.

Tweezers: bowler who vizeri or lightweight metal

Antiseptic for cuts and wounds as shallow, torus so embarrassed! minor 5 g: iodine, polidin, poviodin etc.

Lip balm or petroleum jelly 5 g

For 4 people: pain pills (Nurofen, Cora nerosin, etc.)-4 PCs

For 6 people: pills against diarrhea Imodium-10 PCs

For 6 people: Benadryl antihistamine etc-3 PCs

For 4 people, 1 bed nets and insect-irogard packaging, Autun (recommended), etc.

For 4 people, anti itching cream: a redneck, akilan or else.

Group: (optional): lightweight unbreakable thermometer, recommendation for mini thermometer "plastic" weighing less than a quarter ounce unit 2 PCs (importer: ioniparam, available at pharmacy)

Allow: a to relieve allergy and itchy bites.


Patches: פק"ל

Be careful of loading unnecessary items!

.:

Blade. A strong recommendation for a vizeri knife, medium-level tools. Within easy reach of fast, secure.

Contains a good blade, punching, cutting, Decker, wood etc.

For minimlistim: soiskard.

Head/taillight led.

Quality compact cylinder sewing cotton yarn (clothing, patches, warts)

Inside oshachlot 2 3 sewing needles (clothing, patches, calluses), one large and one or two easy (warts)

3 buttons, 1 small 2 large

Difference, to aid in lighting and lighting bonfires the night shelter

Safety pins: found in RA system.  

(Optional) tie strap closure plastic Staples easy +, 1- 1.5 m (outdoor bondage items on the cartridge, replacement straps, bondage equipment, spare belt, coulombs, sprained foot immobilized, tourniquet set long-term, etc.). It has a flexible wire surries ("string banjo)-strictly using string also flexible front backpack carrying system and for hanging and drying items.

Pak bag repairs: we recommend siplock or psegor is transparent.

– All four group:

We recommend: brgon/brgon.

The 1לכלל group, no matter how much you-1 multi-purpose tools, Leatherman is easy or similar.

3 * sealing ring "o ring" small caliber repair locker/worn connection.

Plastic whistle sound crisp and high relief

3 thick needle bag (standard short thick and used a long thick cheap needles tend to break under pressure, so we took two).

10 מ' Niiilon thread (fishing) 0.25-0.40, or dental floss with hooks, without chassis-heavy repairs: backpack, tent etc.

Ash: see פק"ל fire cooking system possible 7-5 by piirsterter improvisation paper cut or + drip candle wax on it (mainly in summer).

10 m, qualitative and easy tape (dakteip. But even ordinary duct tape would work ...), bound for the walking stick or crayon, or: roll the bandage by system.

5 מ' Easy and powerful chord, 0.3-0.5 mm, hollow (hanging laundry, tying, hanging straps, backpack patches, string replacement buckles, lowering equipment ladders, etc.)

In the tent/manifold etc. 5 m thin Twine in decent quality.

Miscellaneous

Clock (or using mobile clock).

Cash, ID and credit card. You want easy psegor bag and purse.

All three men, at least one cell phone and light. A sojourn in the field without charge sources, it is advisable to disconnect from the network, or to run intermittently and only as needed.

(Optional): easy camera, digital flat batteries + spare. Alternatively or choice, mobile camera.

String (or strings) 5 m to Hung laundry: covered in patches.

Sewing-tool covered in patches.

To glasses: If you took optical sunglasses, glasses are in reserve. If not, buy cheap folding or small emergency, rigid packaging.

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#8 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 4:32:37 PM(UTC)
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Many thanks and jankel, help!

Just to gauge how hard rising on the third day, against the rise from the sculptures to track Fund Naftali begins?

Again, thank you!
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#9 Posted : Monday, March 31, 2008 11:00:29 PM(UTC)
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Before jam

The monks mill

If you're talking about, Behar grass-odion entrance until you are? Don't think you can compare. Launching a much, much longer, but more significant in slalom, and surrounded by twice longer and steeper.   They look scary, but like all great pilgrimage. This is the essence of the trip, whining or scared and yet-it's not so bad.

(Except have nightmares at night after I remember mount Yahav {יענק'לה, you lost him} as a very interesting experience.

The rise of mid-teleportation

The increase is finally launching

The mirrored-mid

The reflected view finally to lap stream.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:43:57 AM(UTC)
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And Allah a very thorough job. The Thistle was absent this lap stream.

Listen spiritic: this is bullshit If UPS going slower, which hurts it decreases.

After the highs of the South: culvert, Amram () music, launching it

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#11 Posted : Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:26:05 AM(UTC)
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Just played it,

If only pain lately. If you want to continue south of pine you know about area accommodations Ofer?

Many thanks

GAL

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#12 Posted : Thursday, April 3, 2008 1:42:30 AM(UTC)
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I think Angel was Ofer trail (or maybe a grocery store-צ'ילומי?) and no more. On the vineyard fast Camping fee have 40-50 per person. The area is not so reserved when you place, for instance in expecting Ofer.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, April 3, 2008 1:17:16 PM(UTC)
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53 163 (c. לוחית9) there are probably comfortable. If I remember correctly there's no main OK if you take multi-purpose tool-bowler that faucet lever or vizeri.

Hyde expects to offer parking and water.

I sent you a private message guy's phone launch to Hyde, he could let him jump. approximate dates.

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#14 Posted : Friday, April 4, 2008 11:16:14 PM(UTC)
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Great-many thanks.

There are also suggestions for accommodation in memory (or as much)

And I promise this is the last question

GAL

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#15 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2008 12:34:36 AM(UTC)
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Grove Shuni top is normal, there diet pills up and endless meadows in front of the Fort.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, April 5, 2008 3:39:00 AM(UTC)
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Hotel Beit Maimon. There are toilets, a hot iklacht, tv, telephone and a hot breakfast. And 5% discount for travellers onIsrael. 39543.0274305556 yankale17
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