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#1 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:22:54 AM(UTC)
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Parents and children who do or did the trail accompanies what you think the planning and when taking into account the child and his experience (e). Is there a different planning adults accustomed to it?  Whether different rates differ substantially from that of the adults among us? And anything else that you think would help to come.

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#2 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 7:57:17 AM(UTC)
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As part of planning for a campaign in the Israel National Trail (INT) with 12-year-old met with parents who did so with their children (and light coral, UDI and Tamar Milo), I did a research and found a pretty serious little parents strolling the path with children in sequence or in sections (3-5 week sections, section ten days) I heard on another line.

After being sent to all my acquaintances the voyage, I got a lot of enthusiastic responses but also answers such as "what the kid did wrong in life and have to refer you to the child protection Council. I met with some friends who don't understand how to take a long vacation and get your child to walk every day? How to do it? I also asked the same question? And I realized that in traveling with the child for two days and crisp tours of JNF co. There is great ignorance and misunderstanding.

We sat down with Odie and various meetings and telephone calls, and we set the theme of the trip for a child and concluded the issue quite problematic and lacking in basic information and you want someone to pick up the gauntlet, need to establish a body that would push the issue on increasing awareness.

A number of close friends who are beginning to plan in the near future and who far traveling the path when the child reaches the age where you think a trip like this.

The main problem is in the design and planning of the logistics section, what's for dinner? What carry? And where to? It is not easy to sleep in the field every day with the child, even my backpack was heavy because I didn't want him to carry a backpack of 10 kg therefore carried most of his gear for little water 3-5 gallon food for the day and his backpack over the five pounds I carried a backpack of nearly 25 kilograms (5 liter of water myself and all our gear) after two days I took a little weight, but he was still a heavy backpack.

Our idea is to establish a specific body which will be a list of ג'יפאים and drivers ready for payment to gather every day the same parents who guaranteed to bring her the equipment so that parent and child day March with a backpack's day food and drink only. Or do people around Trail Angel or otherwise interested hostel to sleep on the ground (in this topic examination makes one dreaded number children during, ages 12-13).

The trip with a child is no small financial expense than the average traveler, and many of the parents I spoke with are willing to spend a certain sum of money for accommodation and will be especially easy to have someone pick them up every day. KKL tours also are paying a significant sum of money at the end of the day in der shuttle waiting.

So why not go with the kids for the JNF for many parents replied that doing this for three to four years to show them too and the trip loses his charm, in addition to a child coming of age 15-16 (assuming the child starting to walk at the age of 13) was no longer want to travel with their parents and "elders" around are already in pretty good shape and bore them.

Set for a child aged 10 to 14 is the most fertile time window to connect children to parents, this is a special time in the development process and should preferably do so for speaking in succession or at large sections then you can do this year to take advantage of holiday periods (3 weeks) week of Chanukah Purim and Passover week can travel at least two weeks.

The same body that will, can also be the responsibility of the society for the protection of nature, or JNF or any other body, built by such association set up for the topic and deal with coordination and help. (I am in principle against establishing organizations unless the authorities can respond to prevent a waste of resources and public funds.)

It is possible and desirable to connect small groups (no more than five pairs of parents and children) just because it's nicer for children to go in the group but not a large group to not become an annual trip and then destroyed the intimacy of shared trip between parent-child. Of course, you can also schedule the team parents who want to go alone and then just leave in increments of 20 minutes to half an hour (a large group it is a problem) so we did one day where we wanted to go at our own pace and be alone while the kids joined us today "foes" according to setting.

In short and to the point the issue complicated and not yet developed and required for the subject a lot of thought and of course help and willingness of people, it's a very big niche that hasn't opened for.

My vision is that many parents as possible knew by phone or logging on to a website they can sign up for trip to Israel receive explanations and ready physically to walks, the same body that will connect them to a group of formation and preparation! And the rest of the mess (collection, sleeping, hot food) comes to the surface by the same body that will. Of course if this trail passport adds a dimension of seriousness and responsibility for a child to take care of your sign as the path.

Would love to get ideas and help in promoting the subject.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:33:25 PM(UTC)
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Anyone who reads the specific reference for the trip I made with my daughter can be found on the subject " Israel with 12-13.

All the issues I'd love to share more general topic that way. I'm very global push for these trips, no matter if you perceive them as challenging trips or fun rides.

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#4 Posted : Monday, October 13, 2008 12:58:50 PM(UTC)
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During planning considering how to invest in teaching my daughter about Jersey history, physical geography and settlement, navigation and map reading.

I had aspirations, but while walking, I found that most "to go". Don't mess with stuff that is less interested in them. If for this challenge, it's fun to go in and get some treats, great. You don't have to make the trip to school.

Of course on the way to learn a lot. Looking a little map and topographic map. Study a little to understand them. Read some history. Talking about reasons for settling in the Valley in front of the mountain settlement, etc. (to me personally has it, but everyone can find what he understands). Hence the trip becomes more than just a walk in the nature.

Another thing that got all the time-it's not a vacation trip. So it's kind of hard, a little hot, a little sticky, sweaty and dirty. If a child record that at first, a lot of problems later on, of capital and lack of desire to continue.

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#5 Posted : Monday, October 13, 2008 2:08:36 PM(UTC)
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Indeed! I didn't want to make the trip to school, I saw that my son is not interested in stories and tales and concentrated. So I let him, and he started walking I was trying to answer questions about anything else important to look on them. During the voyage he began to take an interest.

The most important difference between vacation trip, there is confusion at least in the first two days we are on holiday and you can stop and rest stops to go slow. After a few conversations while walking my son began to internalize the difference. I think if subjects that parent should be prepared to them despite the preparation before the trip, that's the kind of thing that candidates with them during the trip. The boy goes through several processes during the trip, it was the first mshbron my past.

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#6 Posted : Monday, October 13, 2008 2:49:11 PM(UTC)
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Interesting what you write. Have no children in the House to trip, closer to the grandchildren.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2008 5:11:33 PM(UTC)
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The last Passover I went with 13-year-old about 70 miles on the trail. Then he came home and I continued (can be found under the theme: "tips for the lead.").
This is a life experience that you discover new things about your child and gives a new dimension to your relationship.
In my opinion, generally from 13-14 onwards every year very close to them our walking abilities (although we each year old ...). Small floor members relative to his age but carried in the form inspires respect.
I highly recommend to all who love and values the country cares and wants to teach them to his children.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:47:19 PM(UTC)
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Today we walked outdoors River from "Ma" to West towards destruction glaucoma.

I traveled with 2 sons, Tomer "and" 12 veteran and Ido "rabbit" rocks and 8-year-old with no nickname 40 days ago.

There is no doubt that today except the heat bearable in the afternoon was a very productive and enjoyable, the segment of the trail is one of the most beautiful marble.

Surrounded by mountain boarding was passive and the tour proven you reached the Summit and prepared the terrain for me (tea), also just starting to feel the heat load. Don't know what to do, but every time I go for the heat decide to join.

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