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זמי1  
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 6:16:36 PM(UTC)
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Today at lunch I went toward launching a training walk.  Midway, near the building of the JNF found them at last. Did weekend parking. Group eight at about 70-80 people, hard to count because some are settled in. Look and act like their website photos.

But I went to chat.  You know the feeling that you are talking to someone and his look over your heads, full of the direction is unclear and not directly? Say hello haven't answered most of those sitting on the footpath right, moved between them feels like I'm in another dimension, some of them who the Organizer, who leads and it was very difficult to get a clear answer, it seems that most of them don't know who arranges, I filed for one of the men, introduced myself, MA, Forum, HIKE, Trail Angel isfiya, everything I asked again to Venice, a couple of questions, where bilists is coming from and where we're going Again, short answers and everything like I bothered them, answer of questions and turn me on, now, talk, smile, ask me what I am, what I am, I greet. Don't.

Well, I kept walking and when I came back after an hour, I asked the man if he knew they were previously staying in Carmel and reserve if they can expect a ticket inspector if not expelled from the area, said forward because he is going to work with them, as you have already worked in the past, attention that this is the season of the young and those who must watch and same look overhead, short answer of syllable or two. While speaking with me one woman approached the team and I'm not there and I even speak it manages with a call like I do, even as she looked down at her shishrti me to it.

I'm not a psychologist, but it's kind of people's behavior is very self-centered and what they do. "I was there, I spent a lifetime with similar people, of any age, in Israel and around the world, and I know the behavior of people who might consider themselves nonconformisits and their communication with the environment and people come in very the same way I saw today.  Although this is called WALK ABOUT LOVE, but where that love?

And at the nature reserve area, let's not talk about breaking the law, but this huge group leaves an enormous environmental impact, fire to burn fires at a number of locations, a cook for the group, the current lot of tools with SOAP, I wonder where they pour all the SOAP?

From this encounter not met or showed me one that follows the path of shbilist, I realized that most people come to spend Saturday in the parking lot Saturday, some going short pieces from here to there, leave and return. Although the nature and beautiful but something for my personal login today and at that point, didn't work out. And again, everything.

Don't rule out one of them, don't judge them, just trying to tell what happened there and left with questions without answers.

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#2 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 8:26:33 PM(UTC)
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I found today was probably one of those old guys in Nahal kelah with little fire likely burned all night that still smoked light and honor to no avail even deigned to extinguish it properly and just went to bed. Very thoughtful. Not to mention that it is forbidden to light fire there.

When I ran into him because he just went to sleep in the middle of the track, so he kicked me and hang with the shcsh. Asked him if he got stuck at night or anything like that yet so I figured what the hell. And he told me it's none of my business, speak limited English and he was changed. So I told him not to sleep here and blow himself and his belongings. He pissed me off. He told me that he was part of the Israel National Trail Festival and has approval. And again I leave him alone already.

Phoned the Carmel nature reserve inspectors hopefully useful in my down to the Creek and disrespectful to take away. I doubt this happened.
Too bad if I was him I'd be snatching a police report. Otherwise it was over as I want.

Unfortunately there are bad people who destroy other people name.
I don't know about the rest of the team and he wasn't really belong to them. Anyway don't miss cheeky regardless.

Sorry for stealing your thread.

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#3 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 9:28:41 PM(UTC)
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Drugs drug not heard of folks the idea?

Apparently they were in another dimension and have disturbed them.

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#4 Posted : Saturday, May 9, 2009 9:44:34 PM(UTC)
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I wanted to kick it to another dimension.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2009 2:13:08 AM(UTC)
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Drugs are almost sure they were on the trail meets with the Carmel scenic route, passing him.

In fact, I don't know, I don't think so because I had the feeling that everyone it. Those tired, maybe they feel in seventh heaven after I had wrote them on channel 2 yesterday, maybe I'm just sick of them to talk to others, but not undeserved. Well, NOT MY CUP OF TEA

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#6 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:56:24 PM(UTC)
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In one of the threads related to subject browsing SASH type name (not love) eat your heart out, or the hat, don't remember exactly.

Anyway, no one will doubt the success of the organizers to bring in dozens of people (even from abroad) and travel throughout the path. I think this success is now dwarfed by while one of the most important values that btiol and is clean and not saved.

I also went through that yesterday near a parking lot (under circumstances which prevented me to stop there), and the amount of people I saw was. Also I was wondering about all the available up here, unfortunately I could not delay and be interested.

The Israel National Trail day used quite a few agendas. "go for the kids", "going for the hostages," going for the hedgehogs "etc etc.

If while walking for a cause or otherwise retain basic etiquette toward nature, in my opinion just the same spaces.

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#7 Posted : Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:55:35 PM(UTC)
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Who goes for the hedgehogs?

One of this valuable species in my yard if I know people are going to get it.

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#8 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2009 4:34:40 AM(UTC)
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I haven't traveled with the team, as I realized nobody here too (except for a few sessions

Random), so I don't think it's unfair to judge them like that with a tiipipt

Maintaining natural values.

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#9 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2009 4:32:43 PM(UTC)
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Velma keeping currency values or at least respect the law in the country considered the eyes fancy criticism?
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#10 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2009 4:51:40 PM(UTC)
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I haven't traveled with them just ran into them on the way to launching Saturday parking, from what I've seen is a large group who converted was not able to maintain cleanliness and natural values. They are organized as a group with ons equipment including serious cooking equipment like gas burners and large pots and everything else I saw clean. Sleep in a nature reserve, where a group of between 60-80 people can't even bother to preserve nature.

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#11 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2009 11:13:20 PM(UTC)
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I think we were a little skeptical about the success of this journey, a journey of three months for organised by Israel a bunch of students with lots of goodwill and once before I think we should tell them nothing but respect and hope it becomes a tradition. Previous discussion here just trying to "look" and indicate the random encounters on the equipment with which they are travelling and unique way

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#12 Posted : Friday, May 22, 2009 11:22:40 PM(UTC)
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Start I was looking for them but not "bumped and mentioned only in one of them. What I wrote was about the audacity come respect, first of all, the country where he hosted second nature is increased most. So precise the next time you move. Don't really care what their equipment and what way. If they don't bother anyone and follow the rules so none of my business what they do. Because at least the other thing I saw with my own eyes that they're doing so I took the liberty to express an opinion.

Hope I understood more about what bothered me.

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#13 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2009 3:07:48 AM(UTC)
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I know a friend who's going with them they would pick up trash not theirs while walking along the path. With my own eyes I saw them collecting trash not theirs in their camp at the Observatory. That doesn't mean everything is perfect but some positive intent exists. Big my impression of the people was most of molding to maintain large natural population average. To say the least.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2009 6:43:33 AM(UTC)
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Eyal, everything you said about the incident that saw completely justified. Again, I refer to the unfair criticism and non-established addressed towards the group.

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#15 Posted : Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:32:40 AM(UTC)
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I got. And I hope that more such groups from abroad come to the country to explore. It helps us all in the end.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:18:09 PM(UTC)
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Hello to all available

The Forum was turned and I was amazed to discover chronology of cynicism, even leises slander.

A journey walk 2009 ends successfully today. We are about 100 backpackers, 30% of whom are tourists. (That's an average of participants throughout the journey).

Out of the 40 team going steady and others leave for days and there are also new.

A diverse group. Ages, sexes, religions, countries, interests etc. Programmers have a New York financial adviser, Israel, techies, artists, music professionals, Pharma culture, journalists from all over the world and more. Many families with children are joining us. The young one year old backpacker and backpacked 70. The average age is mid twenties.

The whole idea behind the campaign is to build a tool of backpacking in Israel as in the world but with an added value: produce voluntary activities in the communities located along the path the topics: environment, peace between peoples and cultures and specific populations.

Indeed made dozens of such activities in cooperation with the authorities, tourist, education centers and ecological organizations like Greenpeace, Earth Charter, green course, etc.

Regarding the issues raised here.

The environment is one of the top entries. Every day staff get new people and explains the clear guidelines about conduct. From the environmental theme and defecation without harming the environment. The group going with trash bags and walk clear dirt trails and around which many travelers don't trip leaves behind. As part of our activity is also carried out mass beaches cleaning along with Greenpeace and worked voluntarily at ecological farms. All cleaning materials are environmentally friendly and we wash a successively took. We use very few Cookware 4 big pots. Additionally, we use solar panels for charging batteries and a small generator.

Keeping the law, I have no idea where the scholar put the idea that this population consumes drugs? This is slander unequivocally! Perhaps your associations who wears a motic arwal that resting is also necessary. It's rude! I ask an apology!

Our places to stay in sync with nature by the authorities. The JNF, the society for the protection of nature and the local authorities. The team leads the foot closed down before the trip was planned a year in advance. If changes embarks with staff to review and accept certificates if necessary.

Since the trip is open to all those who have quit and decide to stay somewhere that suits them. The Association has no responsibility.

Regarding the ratio of received-sorry to hear that and even more sorry for hasty conclusions "people grouped themselves. If you log on to our website and see the events that passed along the path will understand that the group is engaged primarily in giving. But ... Don't argue with your personal experience, we're humans and perhaps his time arrived and Mathison weren't social mood. However, if 100 people left I guess they have a good reason.

This is the first time I hear about such complaints from hundreds of people who have joined us.

Sometimes important information before mgvshim opinion and denounce all to see. I invite you to come in and read on our site before you click the trigger so easily.

If you went to one day experience the morale, deep conversations with people from all over the world, listen to the music playing at night while walking, the contents of the poetry. See how budget issues were on the backs of babies of parents who are tired with games, how people with disabilities integrate and get love and be treated equally, how dirty sites become clean in no time with no complaints but while laughing and singing

You would know you thousand light years distant than this fascinating journey curator.

Should remain as evil. Too bad. It doesn't do anyone any good.

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:23:05 PM(UTC)
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Homepage of walk about love


Www.walkaboutlove.org

And incidentally, we are not just students. We also work with businesses and families.

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:42:16 PM(UTC)
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Sherry, I don't know if you've seen any emails on various topics, and not just about your journey.

The initial approach was very positive. Whoever wrote was for and thought it very donor country and nature.

The issue here comes as the personal impressions, observations of a number of people, and Lauren came different references. Agree there is a lot of cynicism in the ahatiiachsviot, but that's pretty normal here. We present a kind of family.

About slander – consideration she won the first go. I'm glad for that, even if it took some time. I am convinced that your ahavara fall on ears.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 1:29:57 AM(UTC)
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I came back two days walk with a walk about love

Was amazing.

The most impressive thing about this campaign is the amount of tourists coming to organizers, who managed to bring so many tourists to Israel and for talking a lot about how to get to people and to go it's over-100-200 people a year, and here in two days, I would have been at least 100 people, most of them administrative conversations went all or most of the journey.

Think of the publicity trail gets her that people returning to their countries and the LEA.

Contrary to what you wrote here, I was very impressed with its own nature, not ad hoc, this morning before we left eye's been herding people with garbage bags to collect what nevertheless remains throw, but it wasn't much.

Of course, such a large group sleep, start a fire, spread over a large area, sometimes people want a little quiet and shy, but certainly getting effort to offend as few around.

About the gear, no idea who encountered them randomly shows there are two trailers heating up overnight, in the morning, prepare breakfast and lunch for the day and in the evening again make wise food too, so they are sorted

In short, I'm waiting for next year.

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#20 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 6:01:54 AM(UTC)
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Really nice to finally hear spoken reference someone,

Just curiosity about the first time you hear complaints,

I know one person who traveled in the first week, didn't like the character magically disappeared her handbag in the transfer. Who's responsible for this? Anyone? She had to go home and regroup (try to imagine what this movie), it could be here, in the rare event that the only girl I know from hundreds of travel you complained, I don't know. Anyway, my impression was that the picture is less rosy than you describe.

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