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libi  
#1 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:53:36 AM(UTC)
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I'm just getting the investigation towards the exit and I know for sure and it's unwise to leave in the summer. The problem is that I have another time.

I want to actually do the entire trail and not miss any part.

I'm not an athlete, and I don't have great stamina in the sky. But I started to improve it.

The question is whether I can go out and do all summer.

And if better July and August or September or August it doesn't matter anymore??

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#2 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 4:32:57 AM(UTC)
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Possible? Technically possible.
We recommend? Is strongly recommended.
But now, it's better to start in August in the North and South in September, hopefully lucky and the heat starts to decline.
But it's really problematic, especially if you have no experience in exploring the conditions of heat, especially in the South.
If you do this, keep on a few rules:
1. start early, stopping to rest during the height of the fever (11-3) and move a little bit cool afternoon. Don't go in high heat.
2. take a lot, a lot of water.
3. always make sure someone knows where you are.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 1:12:27 PM(UTC)
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I go for a mid-June and I don't know exactly what it takes to prepare and plan

Who can help me with this I'd really like

My cell number is 0577851701

Thank you

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#4 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 2:04:23 PM(UTC)
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And cliffs, search the Forum. There's a lot of information. Some information seems sometimes as if it contradicts, although usually the experiences and the knowledge listed here are similar, the difference is primarily in the eye of the beholder (or the reader).

Offers you two or three days to do sightseeing in areas not to realize what it was.

After you read and experience, specific questions on the forum-for food, water, equipment, stage to ensure every region and the problems of each area. Not be taken lightly, especially not in the South. Hard times are expected there in the summer in addition to lack of water.

Most important is thorough planning and then implementing, as close as you can.

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#5 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 3:01:49 PM(UTC)
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I heart mate plan to leave in early August.
If you are interested in joining, you can talk to me.
We have been researching.
Locks at the Port Moody despite the heat.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:19:45 PM(UTC)
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Like every year I try to go camping in July and August, most of them interpreted in a page or a sultry heat, fertilization and simply dangerous to health, none of us would recommend to leave in July. You can try to start early in the morning until late afternoon, but the heat doesn't go away. Heavy moisture, too much of a risk is dehydration, heat exhaustion, heat stroke, sunburn. Just be prepared for the possibility of retirement due to heat conditions.
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#7 Posted : Sunday, May 17, 2009 7:23:43 PM(UTC)
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Hi Libby and cliffs,

Like the others said you should be very careful when it comes in the summer. The business is strongly recommended and it comes from one who did the trail between May and July. I personally believe that anything is possible, so if you really want to go in the summer, there is nothing to prevent you from doing this. Just make sure you prepare accordingly. And as noted here, knowing the area, to prepare in advance in terms of equipment and build stamina.

I don't think your question should be better because you have difference between August and September in desert desert will not be noticeable. You're going to have to start and see how you handle the road. This, in my opinion, would be the smartest. Because you will learn if you're built for walking difficult and if not you won't be stuck in the itsder desert, but in the middle of sioilizatia.

Good luck and if you need more help,.

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#8 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 3:07:28 AM(UTC)
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Thank you all for the advice.

I understand you don't want to go this time, but I really don't want to give up the trail.

I don't want to make only portions of it. I want the whole experience and dream about this trip for so long (:

I certainly take all tips in mind. I'll do a trip of several days before and certainly will not travel during the scorching

There are other important tips that I should implement a trip during this period?

It really concerns me. What do we do about it?

I don't completely understand the atmanot.

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#9 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 3:50:40 AM(UTC)
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The truth is that if you feel week you'il hike again the same as in July and August,

Maybe get some perspective on the matter.

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#10 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 1:40:00 PM(UTC)
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On the one hand, South of Arad, accessible water sources along the trail is very small. Because a minority settlements, roads that cross them, parks etc.

On the other hand, the heat and water consumption grows twice as dead, at least six liters a day per person.

Access to some parts of the trail hard to impossible-impossible to push water in aid of an outsider.

Meanings: 1. must plan carefully the foot so that the water taken on enough to fill point back. 2. usually required to obtain water for the next two days — 12 liters. 3. are there places that even that's not enough, because the track is longer than two days. So I need to take care of plant water. Shovel several bottles of water and it will do until the next ordered. 4. are there places you cannot reach them but in an SUV. It is even harder for the huge supply or while. Hence those who do it for money (not necessarily earn it, but primarily to repay the investment).

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#11 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2009 2:38:39 PM(UTC)
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I'm joining mark on the subject of setting water South.

You really need it.

About the dates, can be found in mid-August and South it has been some days maybe less September warm.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:02:15 AM(UTC)
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Said before and say it again:

Travel South in summer long routes and especially its Israel trail is a safe recipe for trouble that could result in death!

The name of the game here is a range error. The meaning of the term is the ability to cope with an unplanned situation that can happen in this kind of trip, and I will tell – that happens in this trip. (It always happens ...) In summer, the range of error drops to zero.

Recipients:
You start the day in irkeam eye/Oron plants. The decrease in oedipoda someone twisting her leg. Because of delay in the lane you are unable to get to heaven before dark and run the water at 9:00 p.m., you are already in a State of dehydration.
Cellular signal point, you pass the night in and are already on the verge of losing consciousness as a result of lack of fluid.

Another option:
The beak was taking longer than planned due to the difficult and 12 not reached any shadow point (placed before descending to Nahal oedipoda). The desire to get quick shade height price again dislocated foot and half an hour of trying to carry the injured man II is already in a State of severe heat stroke!!!

These are not imaginary examples, these are cases that have happened and are happening all the time rescue units in the region and the main cause is foolish.

Don't get me wrong, some people in the desert in summer and long routes. But that's not asking for recommendations here in the Forum.

And done in a trial known: better to be wise than clever!

Good night

Jonathan

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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:07:44 AM(UTC)
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Well, a bit stressful.

It is clear to me that I was inexperienced and that such cases and can recur,

The question is what to do to prevent it? Connect to a large group?

Notified before each port to new section where we

Because from what I understand you, the solution is not to go for the summer.

And that's something that me and my friend really don't want.

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#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:32:33 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = libi]

From what I understand you, the solution is not to go for the summer.

And that's something that me and my friend really don't want.

I'm really undecided about whether to give or "tips" States. Because of the small chance that date despite the warning from and even more small chance this message can save you I'll try a little help.

Divide it into two parts:

North-difficult, unpleasant, but (and it's not States) less risky from the South because cell coverage is good, close to water and civilization, and of course more forgiving weather.

In a different story.
There are a few things you need to plan a precise level when the consequences of inadequate planning can be devastating:

A. : there is no way to carry water in the desert in summer days. Who do I think is going on very thin ice. I desert summer tour with big weight drink about 7 liters during the walk and 2 liters during the night including cooking. That excessive drinking and less likely that puts itself to negative water balance and way to dehydration.
Plan caching of water every day, when a certain ability to make them long enough before dark. The option of not be able to reach the water in the evening. At most of the morning as wrong range.
You must plant 10 liters per person per day + night
Cases of theft/loss have happened before burial and seemed to happen in the future.

In shadow and interruptions: in summer the desert conditions that enable physical exertion and are Sunrise until 10 a.m., and from 16:00 till sunset, therefore, must plan accurately the Swiss hiking distances into consideration so that the track make sure you will be able to get to a shadow and finish the course before dark (if you are experienced in navigation and night ...!)
It is important to emphasize that many areas in the desert shadow at noon is a rare resource and cannot rely on "hope is a shadow". It is important to know the geographical structure of the topogrepi, in order to ensure that during which the sun shadow in high altitude provides to the people. The shadow is half a meter is used and there is enough room for people to answer.

C. length of track: plan such a long route allowing to match breaks and leave enough time to complete before entering revival hours (noon/night).

D. self-awareness: this section sounds simple but there are a lot more than that sometimes it seems. As you accumulate more experience physical efforts in difficult conditions according to the ability to assess the condition of the body and its ability to cope with the effort and the harsh conditions at a given moment. An experienced person will know usually evaluate according to sense the condition of fluid in his body and the amount of water needed for drinking. Ditto about the heat load on the body. This is also beneficial in terms of the ability to not waste unnecessary water out then transparent כ"שתן".
In addition, once you are forced to go in heavy load high importance pauses time-outs. These breaks are designed to lower body temperature and to prevent heat stroke.

E. standard safety rules: here I discussed why you wrote yourself such as walking in groups and leaving the details of the route and at times. Other things like the phones that can help in real time (the regional inspector, ג'יפאים, etc), who do I contact when you need to extract (100), and more.

I want again to stress that my recommendation not to travel long desert summer itineraries while standing and the tips I gave a recommendation to do so. It's dangerous, difficult, and especially unwise.

Jonathan

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:36:05 PM(UTC)
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I think Jonathan migod possible

In detail you can postpone departure until at least mid-August.

Foot average for per day is 6-7 hours with 14 hours of light

In mid-August the sunrise at 5 am and therefore can get so stressed and which we wake up, wake up already at 4, you can get even more.

You can go through 10 November, we even take advantage of 3.5 hours

From 11 to 16 in five hours in which we take an hour and a half to walk (a long pause and a lot of constipation), up to five hours.

מ16 to 19 has three hours should go among them two hours.

The big advantage if you're going from North to South is until you get to the South were gone up North!  Savvy walking! And comes in shape! Know how much water you need and consumes.

However I don't think you can give up the landfills

In this post I want to show that it is possible to plan walk for even in the summer, I know people who do it.

So I wouldn't give (if no other option) maybe you should also invest more thought and money on lightweight gear, there's no reason to actually date (without water and food) weighing more than 5 pounds per person and even less.

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:42:45 PM(UTC)
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Wow really cheer me Irish optimism?

I will definitely use these tips and advice, Jonathan,

Actually if I had time I would do the most for the period you want.

I use all feasible precautions.

(Thank you both:

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#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:15:20 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Irish?]

I think Jonathan migod possible

No point to it. It is possible, and I was traveling and pleasures glivi keep hiking trips in the summer.
Because I know personally that means I responds so strongly to who asks questions Forum indicate a lack of experience.

Make first trip this summer in the desert during Israel considering trail difficulty of routes is a recipe for trouble.

The places that are prone to retribution are the first few days in the desert "true":

From Arad to watched, little crater
Sort of a irkeam.
From the morning to the Observatory.
The Sapir lookout (more likely to passersby in Nahal occur.)
And parts of Eilat mountains (although if you get there safely, so I believe I'd be there your interest experience.

Good luck anyway!

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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 20, 2009 1:44:22 AM(UTC)
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I'm still reading here and believe me. I am Irish.

Tell John walking in the desert bordering the large brings danger. And with no experience reads what I write and think Irish "it won't happen". Rescue units to work overtime because idiots who decide to take a risk.

I don't understand something: in the summer the trail looks on their faces. All yellow. Everything is dry. Unbearably hot. Needs to rest at least 6 hours. A few hours of light in the hottest month August is something like 13. Out of this 6 hours. The days are still warm down for September. Poor Libby left 7 hours in daylight.  You are going to enjoy or suffer?

Every summer here Ecoles, can't hear the advice of experienced, people prefer to read what Irish or other writers and go walking in summer, because "it won't happen to me".

Finish your journey at Moshav dishon and cut shot in Kiryat Shmona bus station, just watch this descent is steep and there is no easy way.

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:54:44 PM(UTC)
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Thank you

I scare people, I think it's possible to travel for the summer

And know many people who did this.

(I personally traveled all the path in a row last winter, most especially from Jerusalem to South traveled with myself, will be those who say it's too dangerous, but there are risks that one can undertake to travel this road dangerous.)

Summer trip requires preparation, in particular long trip, long trip requires preparation.

She's definitely got the stop in dishon, I know people that have stopped, and people who live mound two days later packed the gear and took 10 pounds more equipment (e.g. tent)

But if it comes to Carmel is already the experience accumulate more and know what she is capable of doing things.

I agree to what Jonathan said making first trip this summer in the desert is a recipe for trouble, not only in numbers, but the main problem is in the desert until they get there, they already had amassed experience.

It is true that all the fun summer outing, some days, even when going for the challenge, of course according to the safety rules

There is something challenging going all for, there's something I experienced in putting yourself and meet challenges, that teaches you about yourself, your personality.

Good luck, and if you should prepare carefully tip do not hesitate to contact

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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:50:05 PM(UTC)
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It's hard to get out of the argument. Everybody is right. Should take seriously both the easy and threatening.

My best recommendation, assuming you're going about trying to go, is to experience before. Do a day trip. Then two trips of two or three. See how you're doing with it. See how much water you consume. What problems with weight. Clothing. Fitness. How are you going. Intermediate stops etc.

Early tours could combine routes easier and harder. If the route for you'il hike again have already good knowledge of what it looks like, and when you get to these sections they have easier.

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