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ylivny  
#201 Posted : Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:35:20 PM(UTC)
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This year I used up my quota of days trip.
Contingency plan and hope to implement it in one of the coming years.
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#202 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 4:20:18 PM(UTC)
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Hi to everyone,

You can view pictures of the Trek at the following link (not a must have Facebook to watch it no worries).
Https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10201108989221528.1073741829.1072928702&type=1&l=4c634902a4



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#203 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 4:37:02 PM(UTC)
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I see you've met a lot of fog on 801
Some cases were in the rafiog bridge near Treviso?
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#204 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 4:46:31 PM(UTC)
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Shirley the Champ!
Fun to see the pictures thanks

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#205 Posted : Friday, September 13, 2013 4:46:55 PM(UTC)
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Yes, on the last day it seemed as if passing in front of the zombies (the two men who were walking in the opposite direction).
And the water was really freezing! But it was worth it:)
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#206 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 2:55:24 AM(UTC)
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Hi guys.

Unfortunately, we don't have enough time to do all the AV2 (anyway we want to catch several VF)
Therefore we spend 3-4 days to AV2 and move on.
Departing September 26th.

I'd like you think about track (mainly in terms of him) that we intend to do:
A program to get to Passo Gardena (or cabin area) the day before.
The first day: from Passo Gardena to Passo Pordoi
Day 2: from Passo Pordoi to Malga Ciapela
Day 3: from Malga Ciapela to Passo s. Pellegrio and try to get the VF mramolda + above.

A. whether you layout made sense in terms of the Division into days and distances?
2. do you think you can get the other day from Passo Pordoi to Passo's Pellegrio and so earn a day? The third day we continue to Mulaz Rif and on the fourth day to finish at Passo Cereda.
The bottom line:
See you in four days to get from Passo Gardena up to Passo Cereda?

Additional questions:
1. from Verona near Verona has the store of decathlon, is it possible to rent/buy equipment to VF- Do you recommend to buy or rent equipment?
2. is there in the mramolda area where you can rent crampons?
3. If most of the closed cabins and we can't find in maps where we can purchase maps? There are some scanned maps of the AV2?

* I believe I have more questions later:-)

Thank you very much.
Ofer
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#207 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 5:05:26 PM(UTC)
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P.s.

Amnon,
I saw that when you went out from Passo Gardena actually got on VF that describes the Ferrata Tridentina's network, is this part of the course or you can do a loop and the VF then proceed to Passo Pordoi-
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#208 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 7:18:35 PM(UTC)
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This section requires no security. You don't even need to hold. It's just a section of steep climbing. That's all.

Regarding your earlier post, I can't advise anyone who goes out of season. The arrangement makes sense according to my logic
That doesn't mean it makes sense.
Who wants to go outside, look for forums dealing with hiking season. I just have one.
I wouldn't want to suggest recommendations and a brother stranded in exhaustion in a snowstorm in the middle of nowhere.
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#209 Posted : Monday, September 16, 2013 8:36:11 PM(UTC)
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Hi tilapia, about the VF, as your story and description of this link-http://www.summitpost.org/via brigata ferrata in-156988 brigata-tridentina, looks like fire on her the way you did, including vertical lifts, am I wrong and about two different tracks?

About responsibility: we are not going with my eyes closed, our intention is to see every day what we expect in terms of weather the next day, if the weather conditions do not allow us to travel safely, we don't walk:-)
I meant to ask is this a reasonable arrangement on track in terms of distance and difficulty of the tracks,
* In order to have some idea about nisiion
Bulgaria-rilia mountains and Pirin 7 Lakes Trek relatively bright days in October but knee-deep snow and long versions without bumping 4WD.   Jordan 20 km treks, trekking in Crete such as Edie, mountain tours in lengths of 15-17 km, cockscomb and others worldwide.

So the question is whether the arrangement in terms of the Division of the days as I did is right and if you really did the VF in the killing.

Anyway, thanks for the reply
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#210 Posted : Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:11:57 AM(UTC)
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Ofer
Prata is not part of the Tridentina AV2 route. The Paso rafiog Gardena AV2 excellent trail way 666 Pisciadu
Also great for him rafiog Tridentina Prata but elsewhere that far chkilomter. Signposted to Prata.

About planning your walking.
The first day is long but not particularly difficult. Especially when you need to get a prdoy to rafiog Paso prdoy.
It's challenging enough for opening the first day but I guess good air bmazg should not be a problem.

The second day is very easy you can do most of it on the bus, if you go on the road.
If you want some action on that day, find out if the cable cars in mramolda work this time.
If so, Malga Ciapela and early to get the cable to the cabin at a height of 3250 is almost like being at the top of the mramolda

The third day is already very adventurous day. It would be hard to accomplish in one day, even climbing to the top of the mramolda through the VF and get to Passo di San Pellegrino. If you hit the road early and the weather will be good, so you can get to the evening to your final destination. I suggest you plan a shorter alternative, such as rafiog Fuciade accommodation which is open until the end of September.

This leads me to address the question: is it possible one day to travel from El Paso to San Pellegrino prdoy Paso?
My answer is Yes, provided that you give up on the climb to mramolda.
Save it as an option B if the weather does not allow climbing on VF

As for your other question: is it possible to get a four-day walk from Passo Passo Cereda from Gardena to
Can also be reached in a single day. Just run all the way.
You can do it in 20 minutes a helicopter.
This can be done in a few hours hitchhiking
By taxi it will cost at least 200 euros.

I think you already know what I think about this question.
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#211 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:46:12 PM(UTC)
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Hi Joe and everyone,
Back, Jonathan and I Was great. Challenging and easy, but doable. Full satisfaction and pleasure. A real journey in every aspect. And first of all thanks to everyone. The information about latest AV2 and precise way and you know the track before starting it. Had fascinating to see the landscapes that have already met some of the pictures. Like I already had. Thanks for the encouragement, tilapia upped and served any time.

First of all, we didn't say early preparation and experience our first Alpine and I never did that Trek for four days here in all this to say that it is quite possible and AV2 in particular in view of the flexible division into days. We went with backpacks weighing about seven pounds alana not waterless. But I discovered that it was possible to give up some things and get even. In no case to skip school. Jonathan brought finally sucked my parallel read me.
The weather was great, overcast and generally used for. Along some sections were sprinkles, but there were no showers. Course was cold but mostly we toured with t-shirts and long videos ready. Any step not hiked with brass.

My AV2 on eight days according to the following outline (planned another, longer, but changed track shastglano):

Sunday: briksen through the cable to the plus and from there to rafiog ' Genoa.
Monday: rafiog ' rafiog ' Frara in Genoa to passo Gardena
Tuesday: rafiog ' rafiog ' for an Italy (Lake pdaya)
Wednesday: rafiog ' rafiog ' irlgo an a (San Pellegrino)
Thursday: irlgo rafiog ' to ripiog ' Mulaz
Friday: rafiog ' ripiog ' way to Velez Rosetta ripiog ' Treviso
7th day: ripiog ' terbiso ripiog ' via passo Cerda to Boz
The eighth day: the rafiog Dal Piaz way r. Boz to Cruce diAune

Between the third to fourth day we climbed through mramolda on broadband. The VF and crampons equipment doesn't need the abattoir in September. We went back to bed at an.

The fourth day (towards irlgo) made in accordance with the described in Malaga: cipela friendly. We found the fifth molaz day is very short but we stayed because of the solitude of rafiog and because we wanted a little time talking, slow and quiet. The continued Friday to terbiso. Prangol climb wasn't so hard despite snow that fell during the night and arrived at noon and rose decided to continue. You can go to terbiso through Bill 709 (from rafiog), which is indeed longer but easier than 711, and bypasses the hard climbing to lede la delle.

About 801 said. It went in great weather. But some tips for Gavin's Dad's perspective that goes with (and disasters). Intoxicating views of 801. On the narrow sections 801, or go and look at the way or stop and look at the scenery. Don't go and look at the scenery. I walked with canes without using the straps so I can throw the sticks and hold on to something, in case of cycle class.
The last day of 801 requires more water than usual especially wristlet weather. A liter and a half per person (two bottles of 750 ml, balance) is not enough. And where.
Like tilapia, also I think there is no need for AV equipment 2 VF throughout except who climbs on top of Marmalade ... (also possible without those who do not suffer from Vertigo and has spy stable but there is more dangerous and the equipment allows safe).

Generally the beginning was difficult, especially the first guy to pass towards Genoa (although we had energy bars) it took me a while to get used to the track. But shsiglati ' meditative walking ' in the key segments (steps, breathing every second, head inside and walk in conjunction with the sticks) could go and go and stop. Maybe that's why I found the tismoni friendly directory sections in the first precise route and the other half. Also notice that the combined route sections where VF is synchronized more according to friendly.

And some small tips:
At mirlego you can do laundry (10 euros per dubbed). Even the nice clean rafiog.
The shower is the best (and free) was in an
•Best FRARA dessert (vanilla ice cream with hot sauce and berries)
Best meal (fried chicken breast with lemon garlic herbs and potatoes)

I certainly remember more details preferences later and go to the Forum and register.
It would be nice to everyone and happy holiday trip on AV2. Worth every effort.
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#212 Posted : Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:47:15 PM(UTC)
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Sounds perfect, and I'm impressed with the 6 day hike from molaz to Treviso. Hard day murder Probably arrived that reversed to Treviso.
Thanks for reporting Ofer.
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#213 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:05:23 AM(UTC)
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Hi everyone, I finished the week ago AV2 and nothing. Was amazing. About some orders have different experiences than Shirley described: everywhere I had anywhere without a reservation, and there was even one day someone I met in Jakarta called Fawaz in the morning and told him that they are completely and arrived at noon probably have said to me! " (And the same guy).
My Gold Star accepts only private rafiog pazhou-rafiog Paso valles was relatively inexpensive, too (the final payment was released as cai pazhou), amazing food, with no extra charge in the dormitory (with hot water).
I was happy to discover the flexibility of designing marine walk, of course. About via prattot I have to say that those who supported paths for walking and climbing equipment is therefore (recommended) isn't necessary. I was afraid of it at first, but these parts were very easy and maybe should make it clear that people who plan, choosing a course. [What I have to say that between the prangol to Rosetta rafiog was pretty shocking, loose cables, half those pegs that hold the cable flapping them at all in the air instead of the mountain there is a feeling that a narrow trail that fall, even if the person is secured to the cable harness, cable just goes off him all the way down].
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#214 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:42:57 AM(UTC)
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Friends images. Pictures
Choose the ones that best convey the experience and get them here.
It doesn't take much photos 5-10 will do the job.
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#215 Posted : Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:39:53 PM(UTC)
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Update the mramolda section today certainly requires crampons went 200 meters and found it almost impossible and the risk is too big and therefore they built for us. At the end of the season and snow layer highstand as indicators. Everyone we met on the road carrying crampons except one pair had forgotten them. And decided to go anyway (and succeeded). Anyway at this stage of the season is very dangerous. Suppose in July early August a relatively thick layer of snow, and indeed those who arrive en masse do niches in weight to pass through them.
I wish I'd read the comments (successfully:
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#216 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 4:41:46 AM(UTC)
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First of all, I have many thanks to Eilon and tilapia for help.
I've done the millennia. Hope it brings new ideas to go the AV2.
And most importantly-do not miss under any circumstances the kaiserschmarrn on Plosehuette. Whoever ate it, has had a life kisershmarn (that means not eating the most delicious thing in the third world)

1.-Forcella di Sass de Putia Putia-unfortunately I do it almost exclusively in cloudiness. Few moments without clouds looked amazing, but it was too fast for the image. It could be just because the rain clouds and jumped during the day, but it was hard and exhausting. Because the tfasti scene at the end of Sass de Putia Piccolo. Without the Piccolo was with VF, and want to try it in a scene.

2. della Forcella-Roa-Nives Duleda Pitz-Forcella first thrilled as little girl in Trek. From Forcella roa has quite simple to Nives VF with one of several meters. It was the first VF, and probably the simplest on AV2. The views from Nives were. First we see what this beautiful mess. From there relatively easy ascent Nives 40-+-Duleda Pitz, further underscores what we see than Nives. In my opinion one of the best pieces on AV2.




Forcella Ciampac – Sass 3-most recent variant is not difficult at all and very rewarding. I didn't find him or friendly information PDF manual of the Trek. The views from the top of the lake bottom and Puez Alpine North and South in Sella. Don't think adds almost the normal path to Rif. Picsiadu (it's not back-return a little longer to bypass the normal way).





4. Rif. Picsiadu-Pisciadu-Cimma views of Sella, Boe and Pitz of Dolomites all Greece. About 45 minutes no hard ascent.


The other side-Boe Pitz


5.-Boe Boe Rif Pitz. Don't lose heart from convoys of people descending toward him. There are two, one to VFs and. It's very busy. It wasn't too hard and short. One of the highlights of the Trek for me. The mramolda at hand. See right away to Greece without anything blocking the view. I slept there overnight in the cabin pictures I took at sunset makes it pretty sworn (and won the only time in my life that I need snow for 20 minutes in the morning, when no one cloud mountain shmsbib).



6. Rif. -Monte Mulaz Mulaz another 45 minutes of type d +. From the top you see very clearly in all directions, except for the wall of the Farangole Ridge South to see her worth only this guy (Passo Farangole. in the center of the picture)



7. Rif. La Rosetta-Rosetta is really short (20 minutes +-to), so there is no reason not to do it from the cabin. Very nice, especially the views of the Group of the Pale di San Martino.

8. Rif. Rosetta-Passo Passo delle Fradusta-Lede-worth asking in the cabin to make the variation (friendly there could be ice in the season). I actually told me whatever ice chalet at all, but had to cross, no possibility to bypass, one of about 30 meters.
I wanted to move from Fradusta to Passo on top of La Fradusta, which I think is a serious competitor as the beautiful Dolomites mountain, but was pretty big increase on ice on the way to the top and literally and went back to pass. Needless to say, followed two fathers with their 10-year-old girls have gone through this and saw them after 30 minutes on the Summit.
I highly recommend that this variation. It is also easier than the dip and rise to Rif. Pradidali (abbreviation from Rif. Rosetta to Passo delle Lede) are higher and see La Fradusta with its glacier, which Miss if you don't make the variation.

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#217 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2013 7:58:13 AM(UTC)
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Did some interesting variants and very pretty. But remember always missing something.
For example, a variation for La Rose of 709 Fradusta missed the wonderful views on the Cismon Valley Di and Roda malls and

The climb to Monte Mulaz looks Smasher. Good observation. I wish I were we thinking to do it.
Actually had time that day and molaz.
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#218 Posted : Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:09:15 AM(UTC)
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The TMB last year was very successful, I'm going to AV2 in early August.
What about ordering places in? Need to order in advance, or you can call hatspk in the hut before?
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#219 Posted : Wednesday, June 4, 2014 11:56:18 AM(UTC)
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The rafiog (Genova (Schluterhutte should be booked in advance.
All others can call the day before or the morning of your arrival.

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#220 Posted : Monday, June 8, 2015 10:58:59 AM(UTC)
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Hey Amnon,

Although the AV 2 already gone before you (guys) and traveled extensively in the region but all the times in September.

I want to go just a few sections in the second half of July.

1. the Brixen to Paso Gardena with the wrong Prata in half way

2-Prata tridentina Paso Gardena and back.

3 Paso Wallace to Rosetta multz, or two.

4 Paso Lacerda pltera-2 days ago

Do you have any idea where I could run in the snow and if you should take the most challenging parts of crampons. Two years ago, crossed the small glacier on the mramolda towards the bar without crampons and was uncomfortable.

What do you think?

Thank you

Guy.

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