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#161 Posted : Monday, August 5, 2013 1:56:07 AM(UTC)
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Hi all
My name is Tal,
I leave on 27 August and repeat clients only on 14 September. I plan to do the AV2 and the main reason I decided since I take it a few days tent Rabbi (relatively) taking.
I think I start from the beginning of the trip the AV2. Do you have any ideas what I can do when I'm done? I guess I will stay a few more days. I thought I'd just take the bus to Lake Garda and in tent and explore a few days. I was wondering if there is anything more exciting to do at minimum cost (i.e. a trip, but you can stay in a tent).
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#162 Posted : Monday, August 5, 2013 2:19:17 AM(UTC)
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No need to apologize for taking. I may do an anti terrorist but tents here that a legitimate decision.

Tal. You have enough time to do a combination of AV1 AV2 +
1 you will be a good preparation for 2. This option is for a long time on the shelf but hasn't is the adventurer who performs it.

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#163 Posted : Monday, August 5, 2013 4:54:32 AM(UTC)
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A question I got a private message, post here the answer to the common good:

"I was wondering if I could get some clarification I'm still hesitant about. It is about the tent: I am a student and I'd rather save money if I can. Your messages, I realized that you can sleep in a tent almost every night, meaning almost everywhere? This means that even in a place that is not just camping, off trail (disappear, in fact) and camp? Or how it works in General? "


About sleeping in a tent -camping in the towns around the trail and on the trail. The trail itself passes through mountains and once crossing a road that connects the towns at the foot of these mountains. We slept at campsites when we wanted to get out of the trail and rest, stock up on food in town. As noted here in the Forum, the bedroom during the trail basically based on sleep in cabins scattered along it (like that majority of people do most of the way, do not included the full course, but parts of it as part of a day to several days).
For those who still want to travel with a tent, I recommend the following principle:
1) try to design every day where you want to end the next day. When approaching the area open your eyes and find a nice place to settle it, consider close to a source of water for drinking, cooking, washing dishes, etc. In this context, note that when you are on the mountain taller springs or no sources and therefore in such places or carrying water filling in place or buy water in the cabin (not exactly cheap, but not too expensive) or any other creative solution.
2) ה"דרמטיים parts of the trail that are really in the mountaintops can be difficult to find comfortable places to sleep are the cabins themselves. These huts are the rare Bank they flat enough to allow hibernation and near water or at least supply cable. In these cases I recommend asking for a place to sleep near the cabin and my experience usually don't have a problem with that. If they have a problem, you can move on or alternatively to settle and pay for (promise not to suffer it:).) When we were sleeping near the cabin tried to buy at least a token to be leeches.
3) occasionally sleep in the cabin. It's not so expensive, especially if you make Alpine Club membership and the body needs rest, head to find a quiet place to sleep and in people can be very unpleasant and it didn't experience the taste of her.

I assume you have already read about it but I mention valid element changed. According to inquiries made here on the site, at least from what I remember, you can't sleep in a tent just nature reserves. Overall it doesn't really limit that you can usually sleep right on the entry and exit boundaries and nights that come out right in the middle of the Park are usually nights on top it is hard to find anyway anywhere.

Lastly, no matter how many words I write about are not be unnecessary: the Dolomites raining afternoon or night. However, there are also a lot of evenings and nights, but rain in much of the night. Therefore, if you plan to travel in a tent-only condition have gear for rain. If you have any concern that not enough tent, or you might to suck a night like this-I encourage you to skip a trip to a tent and sleep under a roof. This is not the place to save it unless you know the situation and know it doesn't ruin your entire trip.
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#164 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:20:42 PM(UTC)
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Thank you! Really could be a do-either AV1 in addition to 2. You can get information on the Alpine card? I post here may be less certain the Israeli card can anyone confirm/deny this? If so, then how to remove this, European and Israeli, or how long it takes the issue? Thank you
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#165 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:49:49 PM(UTC)
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Until now not made trouble for the card.
They receive the discount wasn't even deserve under the law.

Spend $ 150 and get a ticket. Are you sure you want your tongue at least 3 cabins along the trail even have a tent.

How to make friends Register at the Club the Israeli prototype
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#166 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:54:00 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Amnon!
And in case you'd regret regarding the tent can sleep in public throughout the "path?
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#167 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 6:01:56 PM(UTC)
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You can look at the attached Excel file two weeks ago, I pointed out all the way and which ones belong to CAI

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#168 Posted : Tuesday, August 6, 2013 7:56:51 PM(UTC)
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No problem to sleep in public.
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#169 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2013 12:05:43 PM(UTC)
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Just now I saw that another published file tab. Thank you!
Really exciting trip and solidifies him:)
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#170 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2013 9:16:55 PM(UTC)
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Hello
-AV2 in Dolomites returned a week ago.
As someone in reasonable shape, I found the track definitely tired, but not terrible.
I walked the course in 11 days, so most days were too long.

The landscapes of the Dolomites will definitely reward, but animals rarely encountered unfortunately (for birds twice encountered two marmots on Chamois far and once observed black salamander on the trail).

The weather was hot — even too hot for my taste. Throughout the eleven days, not more than an hour and a half in aggregate with something beyond a t-shirt.
The Sun was beating down most of the time, and even though the 2000 metre group heat less noticeable, it has the effect of cumulative fatigue.
Many times it rained during the night, but the days were sunny and warm themselves.

Due to the late winter and the snow amounts that fell in high places – around a Boe and Mulaz cabin remained a lot of snow.
There was no need for special equipment, but had to be based in the snow for a long time. For those not accustomed to walking in the snow (like me), it takes time to adjust and overcome initial concerns, but after seeing many people and many tracks.
Up to the Boe had several sections covered with snow, making finding the path.
On exiting Mulaz towards Via Ferrata Rosetta was covered in snow, which therefore could not use it, so I had to get pretty serious slope (at least for me).
Of course there were stairs already stands in the snow, latched on to a team that looked serious, and it went well.

Furthermore the Via Ferratas couldn't find hard or scary.
I guess my name got reasonable coordination and confidence in heights, can't find them.

The last two days (from Passo Cereda Aune-Croce d ') are a step in the technical difficulty, and there's a place or two not obvious why no security cable.
In addition there have been almost no people, so take that into account. However, physically – these two are possible as the rest of the Trek.

I met people who haven't done the last couple of days that were afraid of them, but I don't think they differ substantially from other difficult Trek.
Beyond consideration most secluded area, and there's a few people if necessary – I wouldn't give these days – they are very special.

Most importantly, if the sole on footwear begins to show signs of separation already in Israel – it is not recommended to paste and say will be fine. Of course, in my case the sole on began to break up in the middle of the Trek.
I took magic glue (I'm not the first time this has happened to him, apparently), but as soon as I bought new shoes possible in the middle of the Trek.
The opportunity came on Passo Cereda-took away bus to Fiera di Primiero town (drive of 15 minutes or half an hour – depending on whether the bus also stops in the Valley that descends from Treviso Hut), where I already bought new shoes.

Although I arrived early, and could go back to Passo Cereda, hotels preferred already in town – there's more interest. Because the bus back to Passo Cereda on weekdays (I got there on a weekday)
6 hours, departs at 12:25 pm and I had to sometime after 5 p.m. and get up early the next day and take the 6 am bus.
(I mention that walked from Passo Cereda-Boz is quite long, so that the bus was late afternoon.)

Came to Fiera di Primiero allowed me also have a supermarket where long days supply left, and in fact seemed quite recommended in General.


Divide my days was as follows:

Day 1: taxi from Stop to St. Andrea, cable car, walking to the Hut and Plose is in Genova Hut
Day 2: accommodation in Puez Hut
Day 3: accommodation in Boe Hut (no shower and no maps for sale)
Day 4: accommodation in Malga Ciapella
Day 5: accommodation in Passo di San Pellegrino
Day 6: b on Mulaz Hut
Day 7: accommodation in Pradidaly Hut (no shower cabin, but looks new)
Day 8: Treviso accommodation in Hut
Day 9: arrival to Passo Cereda, bus to Fiera di Primiero and lodging there.
Day 10: bus back to Passo Cereda and Hut accommodation in Boz
Day 11: end at Croce d ' Aune and taxi to Feltre.

Several insights:

Because Hotel lanti in Stop the night before the beginning of the Trek, I did Stop Card, which among other things allows a cable car from St. Andrea. Otherwise the cost increase in cable is 10 euros.
I met a man at his Stop in Youth Hostel-is Card Stop.

The taxi cost from a cable car Stop at St. Andrea is 27 euro.

– Cost nothing to fear lelon hotels – the cost is the same order of magnitude as in.
In the annual Ciapella at Malga Albergo Ciapella Malga in half board at a cost of 55 euros.
Passo San Pellegrino in the Nati on Hotel Arnika in half board at 70 euros (a tiny room).
There could be a cheap hotels.
Fiera di Primiero hotels are to annually at Albergo Clarofonte on 58 Euro (without breakfast because I had to leave early).

The taxi cost from Croce d ' Aune to Feltre is 20 euros.

-Malga Ciapella couldn't find the trail — one on the highway, and to Albergo Ciapella must be enclosed, Malga and follow the signs to the Camping – everything about asphalt paving.

There are a number of places for different markup. For example, quit Passo Cereda Boz cabin direction.
In this case, continue the path is exactly opposite Cereda — REF. splits from the highway.

Most cabins have shower. They need to buy chip for running water.
In some places the restriction of time (usually 5-7 minutes), and the restriction of litres (20-30 liters).
I find the figure preferred limit because you can turn off the faucet.

-One posts written about the wrong conditions provide on Mulaz Hut. They could be improved, but I found the cabin as a whole.
Beyond this, the longest shower was there – 30 liters of water.

-In my opinion, the best food served on Genova Hut. It is also the only cabin where it was possible to order breakfast from the menu.
Throughout the rest of the continental breakfast (bread, butter, jam and tea/coffee).


Sorry for the length, but I hope at least someone who embarks on a trek, interest is found.
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#171 Posted : Friday, August 9, 2013 10:56:39 PM(UTC)
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Eli Hello, thanks for the update I'm sure people will find it interesting and hope to use my own advice someday.

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#172 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:58:25 AM(UTC)
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Excellent reporting to me. Thanks for the insights and pricing. How would your rate in relation to the schedule?
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#173 Posted : Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:27:20 PM(UTC)
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If we compare the rate of small (up to 2 hours), so my walking pace was faster than the times in the book,
And the times specified on the signs along the way. Sometimes the magnitude only took me 3/4 of the time specified.

On the other hand, wherever I could made a long lunch and nice too, being the total daily hours are difficult to compare.
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#174 Posted : Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:56:23 PM(UTC)
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By the way,
What about water in the track itself?
Is enough to walk with an empty glass and waterfalls or Kai?
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#175 Posted : Thursday, August 29, 2013 12:41:41 AM(UTC)
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You need a bag for the day drinking and water as far as filling in, but hey. I fly in a few hours:)
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#176 Posted : Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:29:25 AM(UTC)
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Well some updates from the track in case anyone is planning to come out soon:
1. SIM card: you can purchase a TIM SIM card costs 20 euros with 2 GB, 1000 minutes and 400 posts in Italy and 5 euros can also be used for international communications (of course we can argue more but I don't see the need). To land in Milan you can buy your ticket at the Milano central railway station on the 2nd floor (at the airport) to the third day in orbit there is no reception issues.
2. I don't know how that would be relevant into September but this weekend there was a blast and reservations at midday is not enough so to order!! As well as travel unit had a problem finding a place to stay.
3. Hotel CIR closed a week ago.
4. wave and (Israeli couple met) recommend not relying on buying next-day map rafiog Genova wasn't.
5. cool morning weather (about 5 degrees) during the day more pleasant (over 10) and can definitely go with a t-shirt (in soptchl).
6. Ben's wish regarding water in orbit to just found that you can rely on water bottle and fill it.

If anyone has questions promise to connect soon.

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#177 Posted : Wednesday, September 4, 2013 2:29:18 PM(UTC)
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Hi Joe and everyone,
This is. We exported to AV2 on Thursday. We are aiming to do it in 10 days or less, according to a story of Amnon and Eran, with adjustments and minor changes. The master plan at least until changes must come. And thank you Word: this forum great, full of up-to-date information, precise and purposeful. If we update already out of the way (thanks Shirley) and if not then as soon as we return.
Thanks Amnon. Because of you we lost (in the preparation phase). And because of you.
And Jonathan,
Midreshet Ben Gurion
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#178 Posted : Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:41:47 PM(UTC)
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Successfully Ofer and Jonathan
Waiting for your update at the end.
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#179 Posted : Monday, September 9, 2013 9:27:57 PM(UTC)
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Hi Amnon,

Well done on this initiative and help the Israelis who want to travel on AV:-)

We (number of members) are planning to come out in the last week of September but still not sure about the track, at first thought to exceed the GR20 in Corsica but right now he's planning more out to price for 10 days, we thought to do green and luxurious tracks and adventure trails.

I've been thinking about the possibility of doing some AV2 and then switch to AV1
But I didn't quite understand whether exit points along the AV2 that allow us to do only part of it (although twice upon posts there:-).

If you can do a course of 4-5 days on AV2 have a part you can make the most beautiful part of the track to do actually.

Recommended me to choose daily tracks here (link)
Http://alavigne.net/Outdoors/FeatureReports/ViaFerrata/?p=routelist
But I'm aiming first of all to the AV1-2 and the second option in the link.

I'd like some guidance,

Thank you
Ofer
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#180 Posted : Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:33:33 AM(UTC)
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Ofer you aware last week of September most of the huts has been closed?
If you want a beautiful part of the AV2 you can do the mramolda thing and then switch to AV1
You need a rental car in favour of htniidot. At the end of September it will be easy to move from place to place by public transport
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