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#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:50:24 AM(UTC)
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Hello

I see everything you write about the weight of the equipment, maximum 10 kg without food and water and I don't know how you manage to handle it.

Only the bag, sleeping bag, tent and it roots Sandals 6-7 kg. Along with clothing, handbag and a few small things I didn't know 10 kg than download.

Israel National Trail school weighing 620 grams couldn't make to 500 grams of photocopied pages. Going to split it into two and get some of the stuff in the center of the country that have 250 g (savings of 370 g).

I gave up on shaving machine (400-500 g) and I took a razor blade (40 g)

Where else can be reduced?

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:57:57 AM(UTC)
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Why do you need a book that Bill? Unnecessary.
If the shcsh, and the tent is 7 pounds so you have shcsh, and heavy tent.
Don't have a tent this time. But if you go out with your girlfriend.
A case? What shcsh?

Give a complete list of your equipment, we can help you to download.
I was with 7.5 kilos without food water. And today I'm going with less.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:36:42 AM(UTC)
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'M not in love all search list on the Forum check equipment.

Most items are heavy backpack, tent.

Wash bag All you need is a towel and multi-purpose SOAP, toothbrush and toothpaste, comb, small tzprenim numbers, first aid, the case itself. I always put all the small plastic square box slim 20 8 15, transparent, all inside a bag and not see everything, and this is preserved and disappeared in a backpack and weighs but.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:08:58 PM(UTC)
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Here are the weight of the heavy equipment:







2.5 Backpack
1.4 A sleeping bag
1.04 Tent
0.84 Root sandals
0.5 Two short walk shorts
0.36 A rolled-up mattress
0.3 Bathing case
0.3 Camera
0.28 Two short hiking shirts
0.25 Sunscreen

Total: 7.77 kg

Besides there are other easier equipment:







0.2 Two socks
0.2 A towel
0.2 Bathing suit
0.16 Toilet paper * 2
0.12 Compass
0.12 Toothpaste
0.12 Deodorant
0.12 TALC
0.12 Rope 10 m
0.12 Forehead flashlight
0.12 Flashlight led
0.1 Emergency phone charger
0.08 Digital recorder
0.06 The cream rub
0.05 Altosh

I would love comments

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:16:31 PM(UTC)
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Slight correction about the Backpack: the weight is 2.2 kg

(I found some crap I got them and were weighed)

This is a case of 60 + salewa 2010

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:50:18 PM(UTC)
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Ok... So start alleviate.

1. the weights you gave here look pretty weird. What did you consider?

2. don't need pity.

3. what 2 lights? Take a flashlight head.

4. a compass. Bathing suit. Take toilet paper. You have so many places to purchase on my way.

5. root and sandals. Take Crocs.

It would help if you wrote all of the equipment you have and the models.

6. a tent in my opinion is completely unnecessary. But if you go with your friend and then want privacy. Otherwise get rid of quickly.

7.1.4 heavy sleeping bag for the path. You have the microliit of outdoor weighing 800 grams or think that weighs 600 Aztec. Both will do the job on the trail and more.

8. the case of Salva 60 + 10 I know is the Sikhs. And he weighs 2.6-2.8 kg. Nothing like you wrote the Salewa Pamir too 60 weighs 2.5 pounds.
My approach is to take as many small bag. I would suggest you to take 45-50 liter bag and those cheap scales say 1.3 pounds. And it also have weight and limit you don't take bullshit only necessities. 60 liters = 60 liters. 45 liter = 45 litres.

Eyal
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:55:19 PM(UTC)
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Answers:

This model of the case. The site shows that it weighs 2.6 pounds. In 2.4 kghttp://www.hagorshops.co.il/aecommerce/c5351/32652.php .

I consider it with digital weight: once weighing myself, and once with the case thus calculates the difference. The weights I check with little weight in compact home up to 5 kg.

Compass I want and need in the tbrbroyoth sections. Toilet paper one expendable and bathing I plan to give up. Also, sandals really considering forfeit.

About the tent, I may be without a girlfriend I think trip camping kind of protection against psychological reptiles that can loose my sleep. Sleeping bag-intend to buy a better one. (Easier).

Thanks for the comments.

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 8, 2009 2:25:32 PM(UTC)
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Hey,

Your method is to consider the case, not the most accurate. Anyway, whether he weighs 2.4 or 2.6 is heavy and just carry it. Take a smaller purse that weighs less.

Don't have tbrbroyoth clips. And tberbrot don't need a compass. For it's sunny or ask on the way. Is Israel. You're not really in the middle of nowhere. And the Negev have no place not marked well and ttbarbr. Do not worry.

About the tent. It definately. If you have problems with potential to be reptiles and sleep well. Then take a tent. I was not even any crawling or by another. Foxes are approaching and you scare them once. Chnel boar.
So for a day or two off the trail you might encounter these take a tent is heavier? In my opinion. But entirely. I'd give each tent situation in the country. Besides winter walk, of course.

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#9 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:40:30 PM(UTC)
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So man you don't need more than 1 bag 45 litres and not just tell you this case weighs more than 1.2 kg

The shcsh a little respect if you want to have a great shcsh of mountain Red Ware weighing 600 grams and beautifully.

The tent should change a maximum weighs 165 grams

Become root Sandals Crocs weight.

The vagina closed bar bag replacement bathroom with short brush out of toothpaste, alcohol disinfection if 30 ml of glitch and you rub gel in awful little bottle you want little vial of powder, too, this is pongimon and don't need anything anymore.

About one long shirts wanted not to fry funkier head band-Israel and other clean short to make what to wear at visiting angels and such.

This way you reduce the amount of sunscreen only 30 ml small bottle to the face.

A towel is advisable as the cuisine of a 100 g weight.

No more toilet paper roll each concern can handle-maximum requested or as installation all equipment

There is no need for one bathing shorts can be used as the tefid.

Compass has not needed in small compass travel clock and it weighs 12 g

Strings of 5 meters enough shouldn't you drift rappelling

There is no need for two black tops if you stick one dark night and what also to head starts to falter for a moment he was going to end so know and buy batteries as syringes

No more emergency charger

One battery-no school! And charger will do the job.

Itching cream recommendation to morez

I now finish for mirror writing fingers and so far has not been even one during the walk.

And there's no need for altosh is not working you just sweat more.

Enjoy if you have further questions feel free to contact info or email

Mougly@walla.com

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#10 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:42:28 PM(UTC)
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For the record, I'm traveling right now, if huge.

That stores pushed me when I was young and inexperienced,

No need come and includes food and water have cost 10 desert kilovazor 12

And the case weighs 2.5 pounds.

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#11 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 5:36:13 AM(UTC)
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I'd still prefer tent, the rest I agree with Mowgli

Tal
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 12:10:26 AM(UTC)
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About Backpack if the backpack while other heavy but his back, shoulder and waist straps are well padded, it's worth more than a light backpack weight comes at the expense of comfort. In the end I went with the VAUDE weight 3.2 kg and carried more than 20 pounds occasionally, but felt that the backpack sat costs.

And again-read list-forum is the best.

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#13 Posted : Sunday, November 1, 2009 1:41:10 AM(UTC)
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