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LiorEl  
#1 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2009 10:46:48 PM(UTC)
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Http://www.havila.co.il/shop/product-info.asp? ProductID = 452

The NORTH FACE CAT's MEOW model

Suitable for minus 7 and weighs 1400 grams.
(Price on site, $ 800).

The company is known for a bag? Does anyone have experience with sleeping bags?
And if the cost weight price worthwhile?

Use me to New Zealand tours and if necessary in the Israel National Trail (INT) at the end of next year.
I currently have a 600 k helium of Aztec, plus 5.

Thanks and happy.

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talaz  
#2 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 12:33:25 AM(UTC)
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This is one of the leading companies for hiking and climbing equipment.
All quality and ozeriia to the amateur and the professional traveler.
That's how model dimensions and we should choose the right size because the longest weighs 1,400 grams. Do not think you get cold with that clothing can feel comfortable even below 7. To Israel I think he will be too hot.

Enjoy the new ziland, together,

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#3 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:15:29 AM(UTC)
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Israel

I have him, crossed the Appalachian mountains and the Himalayas.

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#4 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:39:20 AM(UTC)
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Http://www.backcountry.c...egree-Down/GOL0245M.html

My bag to the PCT. If the weight is important to you, it will take nearly 900 grams. Highly recommend
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#5 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 3:52:02 AM(UTC)
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Yes,

I forgot to say that in the end it's all about money.
Don't think Goo light exists in the country. What might be able to do is order the requested equipment where you come and pick him up there. In most cases, you should check online

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#6 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2009 10:49:33 PM(UTC)
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Everyone, thanks for the recommendations.

Ido, invited him to the country or bought before the PCT?
And sounds strange that weighs a third what the same temperature rating TNF.

What's the catch?

talaz  
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:50:54 AM(UTC)
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Go lite as its name is a familiar company that specializes in lightweight products.
Don't think there is a single American standard upgrade cost.
I don't rule out the information is simply great.

Calculate you alvit by weight when all data are taken into account.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:00:59 AM(UTC)
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I heard about this company, but in this issue of olterliit is always a catch, i.e. a compromise.
If it's because they're less resistant or less. Or something ... Compromise and have supposedly catch, case-by-case basis and with the preferences of course.
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#9 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:20:21 AM(UTC)
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In terms of upgrading the golite ultra temperature equivalent to about 0 degrees. By comparison with similar difficult (in terms of thickness and quality) have reliable upgrade.

That doesn't mean anyone in particular can't be used in fun for less than the very personal matters. But for comparing the press think about 0 degrees (30F)

Plus it's not like, i.e. it has no bottom and no place to put your head Think of it like a duvet that you wrapped it. It's called quilt. The advantage of this convenience coilette and for those who do not like being enclosed in a bag.

And of course he didn't mention TNF bag upside down from what I gather its fill and heavier and takes up more space (and cheaper) to the same temperature rating.

In summary: one with synthetic filling to minus 7 and make one Quilt to 0

Both can do the job depending on your preferences and your style.

Anyway, remember, to hasench, taking you from warmer temperature and rated to accept used clothing outside of bag.

About generalizations on light weight-I think each case and sweeping generalizations are not d not help anyone.
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#10 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2009 11:54:55 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = afix]

Plus it's not like, i.e. it has no bottom and no place to put your head Think of it like a duvet that you wrapped it. It's called quilt. The advantage of this convenience coilette and for those who do not like being enclosed in a bag.



It ' ה"קטצ '. Or rather, there are differences that will suit them, and not. With regard to exclusions, as I wrote, a case-by-case basis

IFOREX, wrote for miles with reverse ... Do you have a recommendation?
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#11 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 12:49:20 AM(UTC)
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If you have someone to send him (that still doesn't bring the Kelty)-recently bought The Kelty light year 20 to make the k temperature and about the same price (not much easier, but takes up less space in the bag), while camped two nights (abroad), but for now I'm satisfied.
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#12 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 1:50:18 AM(UTC)
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In case of miles I can say this-too easy to make a quality pay dearly. However, with proper care it also lasts a long time, a lot more green.

As far as I know of western mountaineering bag are considered good. For example the summerlite or ultralite are models. About montbell's reading. Here is a link: mdsks
Http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/forum_thread_id? thread_display.html = & 19330 startat = 46

You make it easy/good quilt that corresponds to 0 degrees should consider between 500 to 700 grams and 200-350 USD
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#13 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 4:21:48 AM(UTC)
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Lior,

Tell us your area of investment in equipment. There are four times as prices than specified at the beginning.
And I repeat, do not enable scsh easy! Most lower degrees are maintained by flip!
I guess there's still no substitute for nature. I have such scsh in 17-and-clothing
Weighs 2,200 and quite expensive.
Shidrogim and endless budget cuts. Service and price considerations.

Tal
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#14 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2009 9:27:38 PM(UTC)
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I don't think Dew lanio Zealand need km 17 comfort, there is no reason to exaggerate in Kenya (although a lower temperature raises the weight), I think the most important thing is adjusting the equipment (the budget).

Lior, I think you can find a similar quality synthetic kg price a bit lower (abroad)-synthetic version of The Kelty light year low $ 30 bag you gave anyway, I think this equipment it pays to buy in the country.

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#15 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2009 6:41:53 PM(UTC)
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About shcsh quilts-if you buy upside down so I don't see a reason to buy full shcsh. You squeeze the bottom while lying nor receives any insulation. The only problem is you're lying directly on your mattress so you have to keep it relatively clean.

In addition, the golite ultra mine kept me warm even in cold nights, and outside the tent. Also, for some reason, he dries much faster than someone else's bag, and it was a huge advantage! He also significantly cheaper than WM and NF.

Lastly there's a company called feathered friends who makes a reservation and kowiltim. They are really nice and will fill them and dousing them even after a long trip. Very expensive, but quality too. Same as my quilt them almost twice as much.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2009 1:00:44 AM(UTC)
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Interesting to note about people moving the quilt so much at night, say turning from side to side, can run into the problem of the cold and the wind coming in. This is something that really depends on the width of the quilt in relation to the width of your body and your sleep habits and not everyone is.

Actually and surprisingly there's not much difference in weight between km backwards between good quality and easy Quilt to these temperatures. For example GOLITE ULTRA weighs exactly like WM SUMMERLITE (let alone to ignore that the golite rated temperature lower-thickness and make similar quality and golite just drifting in rating)

Personally I'd rather claustrophobic because quilt bag me some and I choose even if I did quilt weighs more than it has to bag another advantage because a quilt its structure easy to fan or sleeping with more clothing as needed so that you can customize to quilt temperature range. There is also a quilt simply some people who love all kinds ריצ'רצ'ים vs bag etc.

In addition to the recommendation of ido from everything I've read very golite's quilt and you can find it at $ 180 it's a great value. Just to make it more interesting to consider that product:
Http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Wearable%20Quilts.htm
One advantage of the golite has a selection of models for different temperatures and are built in a way that allows them to wear a jacket so you won't need to take a jacket. It looks funny but it works. Another advantage that can be used with. And lately there are many adjustments you can make to get exactly what you want but it still won't come out very expensive like the feathered friends or girlfriends nunatak. I have one and am total happy but if I were buying today, I'd go with the High Sierra Sniveller model doesn't fit the basket but wider shoulders.
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#17 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 1:26:53 PM(UTC)
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Comforters are convenience and ease. Investors once for life.
I don't regret.

-Comment here are an example of an ad that tries to enter through the front door without permission, by course.

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#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:17:57 AM(UTC)
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The north face is a great company like all companies mentioned here.

The New Zealand recommend that miles to 4 degrees (Aztec and others not.).

Regarding "price shopping"-dealing with shipping, customs duties (if applicable), VAT (if applicable), shipping cost, no warranty and service in the country.

All this for $ 20-$ 30 seems like a waste of money and time.

The country has everything the traveler needs a normal (and dedicated equipment for Alpine climbers).

Instead of supporting the world outside by country residents bought.

About weight-as you save weight loading.

It's not that miles and quilt for everyone that stayed think well before.

I personally like flip but should know backwards and moisture-sensitive if not asleep under cover and moisture in the insulation hit fitness spelled and life span of the bag.

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:04:12 PM(UTC)
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The Kelty light year costs $ 189 20F according to the link you gave.
It's a very good price in a reverse but needs someone to bring him to Israel that if you add the cost of shipping it out a bit.

I haven't used a bag (the person on the water or moisture stress?) but it has good advantages (durability, heat/weight ratio and density to a very small size).
If you have a friend/relative in the United States, this is a chance to ask him to be courier
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