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#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:39:47 AM(UTC)
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In preparation for a trip to Mongolia, I'm torn between the two set ups:

A. with comfort temperature value, 7 pounds.

2 km with comfort temperature 0 degrees, 1.2 kilos (if ntkamzen bit) and silk liner on 125 grams.

I have no experience with these or other liners, all I know is that I really don't like my night sweats and hot. For that reason I tend to b option gives me more to play with.

Recommendations for drinks or general comments are welcome

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:44:35 AM(UTC)
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What temperatures in Mongolia when there Start it.

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 3:52:23 AM(UTC)
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There will be nights below freezing. Unless in cold weather especially, must not be less than (5).

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:07:35 AM(UTC)
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Shalom Matthews,

First I recommend off the lining. You're just dragging.
There are around 1 kg skshim coming to comfort seven, it's all about price! Find the Europeans in uniform standard that Americans still don't address sizes and not always entirely correct. You can always sleep with clothes on. Weigh less and more useful.
If you are not suffering from the cold, don't be tempted to seek a lower number under the clothes, definitely will help get the job done.

Tal
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 1:13:30 PM(UTC)
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Hello
As Ma type is very important to find out what tempt in Mongolia during the trip.
I spent a bit more and to invest to buy a k-7 has a European standard or a global brand.
For THE NORTH FACE has lighter bags (filled with) and more expensive but I think it is worthwhile.
It is advisable to take into account that most of Mongolia it speaks and big temperature drop at night though most sleep in the shelter.

Maayan
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:29:57 PM(UTC)
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The k-7 is that pound weight of 1500. It is far from budget. Unfortunately I'd settle for synthetic bag.

Because my sweats, especially, I feel pretty confident to go on to higher temperature rating than will. However, if problematic weather spell, or if you want to change plans and explore the area colder, I'd like you to be with me. Especially if she weighs 120 grams. Although synthetic bag (7) usually weigh more than 1.2 pounds. So I saved 100 grams, and won a serve me in exploring. I have bought the k backwards in the USA (Boston,) I just bake me everywhere I took it out of the Golan.

On the net I found thisbag, minilight salewa.
Comfort (1). Even cheap.
Best kind of bothering me, and the picture looks a little Chinese. Is good quality

Another question I had is about the height restriction. I'm pretty tall, 183 cm and most of the bag below the recommended pounds for people below 180 or even 175. Is the critical point?
I guess I will have to just enter in before you buy.

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#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:19:46 AM(UTC)
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You have a big hand from And again-it's hard to advise without knowing what temperature you expect.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 12:24:31 AM(UTC)
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Asked about the bag of Salwa and their differences:
1) http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/2004581.html

Salewa Maratea.
Comfort 2-European index, 7-in. Weighs 1700.

Http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/20084584.html)
Salewa Minilight Maratea.
1-kompert, 6-in. Weighs 1000.

* The difference is apparent at the top but weight about 700 made a difference, it's significant. Why the jump so significant?

* Big I'm torn between the north face aleutian- http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/T0AE8X.html

2. the European index, weight 1600, Salewa Minilight Maratea.
Assuming both do the job for (beginning in March, without tent) and hopefully maybe even hiking abroad (not in Antarctica.)

* Marmot Trestles 15- http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/MT2385.html

Asked about the marmot, 11-talks about the American index I'm not a warmer night azya him in April in North/Central no tent? Not too hot?


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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 3:10:29 AM(UTC)
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Can someone shed a little light on all the different sleeping bags?

What does it mean 7 or 0 degrees?

Thank you

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:35:09 AM(UTC)
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There's a skshim upgrade,
Uncomfortable, borderline and. See it's always a comfort, limit, extreme.
This upgrade is average for most people and gives a measure of which condition is fit. Of course, with clothes and sleeping in a tent to change the rating here of course the decision is ours.
There is a small gap between European American ranking, still no uniform standard than Westerners. In responses to the various sites about skshim Americans can find much disappointment about retaining heat due to rating.

Navot wrote here, there is no room for discussion that those decisions will only azzotino and and. I wrote that skshim "1 kg" and mandatory sshk even in height.

Comfort always help us finish feels good tracks. About quality considerations against cash, this is another issue.

Tal
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:53:06 AM(UTC)
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Ma, and everyone-thanks for the comments.

Temperature, as I wrote, be the most nights around the 0. May nights (10), when such cases are relatively rare.

Tal, who's in the area. Those that kilometers are out of my budget, and therefore only fantasize.

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:20:50 PM(UTC)
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Oripal, the main difference is in the extreme temperature.

17. compared to 8.

I'd go with miniliit, actually I went with him for the winter last year, and really cold nights also used brass blanket, but it's not necessary.

I'd buy something easier like Aztec's helium (600 g) and perhaps take a blanket or liner, which can give them chshttkdam North

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:51:57 PM(UTC)
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Irish note he talks about Mongolia and sleeping bags may be suitable for gymnastics but Israel stayed on the temperature record.
Plus if that's too often there is an option to buy a new one or fix.
Besides over six feet long and not Aztec.
For Perino has 6 (American who it matters) 1.250 $ 680 kilos which is long
For the Radware maontin has new American land 7 kilometers in regular only $ 630
And THE NORTH FACE has 1 EU (6) 1.250 KB
While $ 1500 price but is also sold in $ 1,000 regular.

Maayan
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:36:11 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = TRAVELERS] Irish note he talks about Mongolia and sleeping bags may be suitable for gymnastics but Israel stayed on the temperature record.
Plus if that's too often there is an option to buy a new one or fix.
Besides over six feet long and not Aztec.
For Perino has 6 (American who it matters) 1.250 $ 680 kilos which is long
For the Radware maontin has new American land 7 kilometers in regular only $ 630
And THE NORTH FACE has 1 EU (6) 1.250 KB
While $ 1500 price but is also sold in $ 1,000 regular.

Sort

I said to Ben, for he has to check with Matthews the bag like him in terms of size, although there could be an effect of the heat retention even if the bag. Anyway, I don't have that problem. So I can't help him.

As far as I know and remember 6-American worth about Euro 0 (unless things have changed), I see that you actually wrote that.

So why pay for a standard $ 1000 kg-

I don't trust rather than TNF salewa

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#15 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:26:19 PM(UTC)
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I spent rather on TNF SALEWA but that personal.
Regardless of these two companies which meant that I was out and prefer to pay more to buy any not clear and hang.

Unfortunately, there are no specific front between European standard "American standard".
But that's about 7 1 European American.

Nice day
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#16 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:41:53 PM(UTC)
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I'm not sure which is misleading — comparing temperature between Europe and the U.S. it's 7 c 7 in the world, isn't it?
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#17 Posted : Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:14:46 PM(UTC)
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Ma, it's a topic discussed here occasionally. The differences are in the European standard requirements are strict, and American supervision it is unclear (any company of the product itself), i.e. that the standard km is suitable for comfortable sleep (comfort)-7 c matches according to the European standard for comfortable sleep on 1 c.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:05:23 PM(UTC)
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Travel website says comfort European temperature corresponds to an average woman weighing 60 pounds, and comfort temperature (which should be similar to the European limit temperature) refers to an average man weighing 180 pounds.

I don't know where they got that information, but that's what they say.

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