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ironisrael2007  
#1 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 6:59:38 PM(UTC)
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Need recommendations for light to Patagonia (possibly also Europe in summer)

Please if you can recommend

1 tent

Read about tarptent forum but I'm not sure what the best fit to Patagonia


2. k.

If you can recommend a specific model

3. inflatable mattress

I read the forum about what I care about is thermarest containment than comfort and what model you recommend.


My priorities: 1.2.3-comfort.






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#2 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 7:28:17 PM(UTC)
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Patagonia-expected temperatures? Ghosts Snow-2.5 cm thick mattress much weight carry total?
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 8:48:40 PM(UTC)
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Patagonia: temperature between 4 and 12 degrees in the hot season, can sometimes be abrupt weather changes, four seasons in one day.

There are ghosts.
Sometimes there's a rain and snow storms

I intend to carry roof 12 pounds including food and water (of course it depends on the bag, tent and mattress to buy)

1. is the match that, and if so tarptent, what model?
(Their website has images of people used on Squall, Cloudburst
A trek of Mount Everest base camp)

2. in-store recommend a minus seven degrees kg, is it because the cloth market the bag's comfort temperature, so if I buy this 1 marmot-comfort

3. about how most mattress thermarest? Write here in one of the discussions that the neo air insulated less than the prolite plus
However, the neo 6.3 cm thick and prolite plus 3.8 thick
(The standard 2.5 thick prolite cm)

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#4 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 10:53:18 PM(UTC)
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Buy everything.
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#5 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2010 11:06:27 PM(UTC)
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I am interested in easy

From what I gather in the shadow and Argentina while the much cheaper but much heavier

How about that.

(The neo air look what it says about the isolation level)
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:14:41 AM(UTC)
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Don't know if I should wait and Knoll in Chechnya without accountability might

SQUALL is ideal for one person with equipment, tight for years. Ideal for CLOUDBURST.

Mattress – as is thick is isolated and more comfortable but heavy and difficult to check and should be tied outside.

The k-7, so if you're going to have snow.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:52:02 AM(UTC)
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Don't know how but between there and Andean forms professional and local use local shops by top gear. A much more serious level map sure find.
What would be better to test it and have some goods which stores exist.
Inflatable mattress and folds there weight 640 g inflating by sealed air cover his SNOW PEAK.
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:34:03 PM(UTC)
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Hello
About the bag I wouldn't recommend MARMOT (probably travel "recommendation") because its price has established better and easier
1 is not 7: better check well before you buy.
About mattress offer of good SNOW PEAK dew but Terme rust.

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#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 5:04:01 PM(UTC)
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I forgot to mention that all the equipment I buy, therefore I guess it's cheaper than (shops that sell professional equipment)

The marmot sold in the country is very old models and as a sort of mentioned are not something (in terms of weight)
I am deciding between two models of a sleeping bag I received at magazine
Editor's choice top destinations
Here is a link

Marmot helium cost $ 15 380
Golite adrenaline 20 costs $ 320

Each of these bag weighs about 850 g
Does anyone have any idea why the difference?

About the mattress area samuil about, specify 640 g weight
Compared to the neo air of termarest weighing 410 g and c won

Editor choice

I also found a sleeping bag .
Montbell U.L. SPIRAL DOWN HUGGER # 1 cost $ 15 to 300ironisrael200740197.6721990741
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:48:43 PM(UTC)
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I'd go on, but that's personal preference GOLITE.
And besides, I favor Kenya in the country mainly because of service and responsibility.

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#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:34:33 PM(UTC)
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In my opinion, no need to wait for the snow to go with miles to minus 7.
Major may be cold without snow, a little fatigue and exhaustion and maybe a gap and you have a recipe for sure feel cold at night.

To understand the company better and marmot is a friend, not familiar with the story of old models. But there may be other models in The country also saw models on the company's website.


That's easy, MacNeil is the bag upside down, more expensive, but are a bit more sensitive to moisture. Lighter and durable over time. If you save it from dampness and the price suits you, bag is the right choice.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:14:45 AM(UTC)
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I'm also in favor of Kenya, and is ready to pay up to 20 percent more than the price overseas, mainly because it's healthy for the economy in Israel

But sometimes things just don't make sense regardless
When I bought a $ 215 in Grigori ltoro ($ 800), in Israel it cost 1800 NIS pod!

Service in Israel, depending on where, most in the Israel National Trail (INT) stores sellers don't know anything of their lives (I said most, not all stores)

About responsibility, Israel is quite a headache, most times will tell you it's not included in warranty (from personal experience) and since it contained liability to repair and then will continue to haunt
However in New York will give you an option or change or get cash back.
If I'm not mistaken, in rei if you are not satisfied you can return the product used and even get cash back.



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#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:22:43 PM(UTC)
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Big you are right!!!

Gregory doesn't buy in the country!!! And not even desirable to expect service importer.

Regarding other products I don't really agree with you, but not all, have problems.

The Danish returns the money replace if not happy etc, unfortunately not suitable for Israel.
Because after all the backpacking gear and want money back or equipment or whatever.
Tricky taxation method increases the import customs tax insane, and many more levies on importers not to live in New York.
And in addition to the importer receives credit on a backpack that he gave when he substitutes should receive from the company that manufactures but it doesn't exactly work that way towards Israel.

If you want detailed explanations on the subject. ...
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:56:50 PM(UTC)
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As a reporter who blame the high price is not the stores, but the Customs and VAT and of regret (not just backpacking equipment but also with other things)


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#15 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:06:51 PM(UTC)
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Unfortunately!
But I still think it's a matter of our city.
Therefore I personally usually prefer to buy.

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#16 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 5:37:43 PM(UTC)
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Where do you buy? At TRAVELERS?
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#17 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 7:36:45 PM(UTC)
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Cut the crap, which you can buy in the United States you'd be wasting your money.

If you want to help the economy, buy blue and white goods.
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 8:26:06 PM(UTC)
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Before you spend such large sums to think about what to do with later? Most travelers not using equipment I came on a trip with a very good basis not raised much money like doiter's case 30 liters in 450 (with tirkati), Solomon's shoes at 550, and miles of mountain eagle in 450, all the equipment has proven himself 9 months in South America and two months in Germany-Italy and Canada. Sticks, tent and a new gas burner (only tbergim balloons) bought there.

A lot of guys buy cheap equipment and this name Punto arenas like our «Eilat but I'm not there in reality. However in Osorno Chile rims have much cheaper from Bariloche and other fluff. If you do poiiva he best get there anyway, we did it in two and a half but I really recommend you to do the same four that we want to just run and parts.

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#19 Posted : Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:17:46 PM(UTC)
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Dear soup
If you read my comments might get to notice I respond mainly what's on Earth. And certainly not where to buy.
Where I buy my stuff that doesn't really matter.
The question what am I buying?

Responses to cynicism and lack certain information won't help people buy the right equipment.

Too bad....

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ironisrael2007  
#20 Posted : Sunday, January 24, 2010 12:44:27 AM(UTC)
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To JP 87

Probably understand words that I buy first gear

I have travelled a lot and (not in relation to some Forum members)
Did Israel trail, and several short trails abroad

I just upgrade my gear, and it's not the Patagonia at the last

Therefore, I am willing to invest money.
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