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#1 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:26:20 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I go to Israel at the end of March from the South to the North and planned to sleep in the open without a tent. Today I have a CP's Ultralight model 800 non-warm enough (it was a cool trip two months ago with a tent in the South). I would like to get recommendations for lightweight and warm bag (the primary mission is the path Israel and abroad).

Thanks in advance.

Incidentally, if anyone is interested in purchasing the CP applies symbolic (used only once) is welcome to contact me.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 2:42:00 AM(UTC)
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I'm not familiar with your bag, but the name he seems to parallel and even more warming is helium 600 haztec.

I traveled with the Aztec in April last year, and I was fine with it as long as I use a brass inner outdoor.

I think you have inner bag plus certainly would do the trick in the South, and the North Channel and the weather becomes more spring can get rid of apnemit.

I'm not sure it's worth you purchase miles pay for it.

Slept with the bag on a mattress? What thickness?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 6:22:49 AM(UTC)
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Depending on the period, tent, sleeping with your clothes and uses weather. For Israel the scsh kind of fitting.
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#4 Posted : Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:15:03 PM(UTC)
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The period is March to may from the South to the North. Don't sleep in a tent and prefers to sleep with as few unnecessary layers.
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#5 Posted : Sunday, March 7, 2010 10:42:12 PM(UTC)
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What Lior said.

In recommending Leiner brass, or silk. You can save costs and sew away.

I'd take a sponge mattress close or air is very easy, you can also put a sponge and close integration with sleeping on a blanket out. Or buy already good and serious and kg spare mattress and even-liner thing, and then as shmathamm and Canal North replaces it for what you have.

At least until Arad also recommend old cotton sheets, or easy coverage, set up so that it touches the bag but separated from him in the air and moisture protection. You should also be able to build a wall stones and cover ground.

The wind is usually getting worse in the area with the sound effect of the crossing, where it gets really cold-exposed between three and five. The manifold receive at least the humidity.

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#6 Posted : Sunday, March 7, 2010 11:07:41 PM(UTC)
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Why suffer? The miles without a mattress? To sleep after a day walking on the ground and maybe?

Don't save don't sack rather than mattress after a day's walk should sleep well.

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#7 Posted : Sunday, March 7, 2010 11:44:53 PM(UTC)
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As I recall the spirit actually calmed down after midnight, so there is little wind in the morning (of course for a given day and what was until midnight).

Through midnight, you can sleep in peace.

And I agree with Ma-spared, neither mattress.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, March 7, 2010 11:59:00 PM(UTC)
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Ma. Opposing concepts.

"You suffer"? I feel cold and really don't like sleeping and eating. The travelers also PCT and there I met, not so much.

I have directed all equipment including inflatable mattress explained and easy tent. Choose not to take them, but in case of need and a curtain liner replacement. A matter of perception, and the perception of perception. To me, that's easy, it's not heavy. And I promise you, I'm sleeping.

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#9 Posted : Monday, March 8, 2010 5:02:22 AM(UTC)
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The bag I have rated a + COMFORT. I have added a simple buckle lining. Enough? Where should I direct in terms of the COMFORT temperature if I decide to purchase a new one?
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#10 Posted : Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:17:40 AM(UTC)
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There are no precise rules. The temperature, if the manufacturer, set by one of two-temperature to "average" slept on an air mattress with tights, American standard, or a man who sleeps in a tent, air mattress, European standard. Either way, the temperature rating is more guidance the absolute truth.

Israeli manufacturers and manufacturers of cheap and reliable overseas tend to give rating temperature very optimistic. Don't trust them at all. Buy a sleeping bag from European or American manufacturer sells: Bergen, Hi Sierra, amott etc. .. In dokbikorot and user ratings, recommendations, test sites and etc.

There is also a beautiful reality in the now-pulled REI's frothy to k minus 7 on price line to write. Remember that the seller of the store remains with the money and you are left with the product, no way.

If manufacturers in Israel were all they were doing good products. Today they produce poor imitations and knock their name and reputation for generations.

Recommend a power not to buy cheap sleeping bag, or land produce most likely will fall to him.

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#11 Posted : Monday, March 15, 2010 6:56:46 PM(UTC)
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As some react already wrote here, I don't think saving a bag and mat.

About CP regardless of what model of comfort not verified and certainly not approved by any standard.

I did not think for device type (old or new) like I wrote before, but someone should take responsibility for what they write a temperature of k.

Unfortunately most of the discount brands don't really check and there's no relationship between what you write.

Therefore, I advise to invest approximately $ 400-500 and buy from a company selling since taking responsibility for what she writes.

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#12 Posted : Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:25:48 AM(UTC)
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Everything in it how you feel. I get along great with 600 Aztec on the path that started in April (in the North). Without liner. I had a little cold on 2-3 nights, but every other time.

Weight and volume is also important. Don't be tempted to buy comfort 20 tested by the FDA and FBI CIA but weighs nearly 2 pounds and you have a case, even if it is on sale of 30% off. It's a lot more than you need. Nmrdxt 40253.3514236111
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:32:05 PM(UTC)
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I need a 0 to 4 for a positive real. Weight 800 to 1200 grams.

Liner is very helpful but it's volume and weight (even if it's negligible).

And some of the cold aliilla note and enlightenment if you don't sleep well little tired the next day, it adds up over the days and hurting health awareness and affect judgment.

Who calculated how shka devices of sleeping bags know that fatigue has on the body's ability to cope with heat, so again no photog recommend not fake and not be part of the culture of trust and be fine, willing to invest some time and money and buy equipment, and most importantly quality.

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