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omri79  
#1 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 5:27:06 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I want to buy a sleeping bag I do whenever I parts.

And fit me for trips abroad
I really want to buy that make quality kg (US) but I'm afraid he's going to be OVER KILL.

Absolutely worth to invest on that warm temperatures make to kg?

What to do???
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#2 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 5:41:17 PM(UTC)
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If you are traveling this summer bought a cheap and simple, kg-depending on where you travel in terms of temperatures. What corresponds to not fit the Alpine Plains u.s. summer abroad also can be hot. The solution-slowly you pool miles to meet all conditions, read the Forum even on liner for sleeping bag.

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#3 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 8:02:19 PM(UTC)
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Lol he

So only my wife won't listen to the arsenal that you offered
Already have a whole closet catch in winter gear and backpacking Cookware
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#4 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 8:28:15 PM(UTC)
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Tltz Ali

K-ל"קיצי installation" spring and add it to him and you will be fine.

Adds 8 to degrees if you bag some km 2 to 2 like this you'll be organized and that ב99% of firearm.
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#5 Posted : Monday, May 17, 2010 9:25:01 PM(UTC)
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Sea to summit liner

I checked some reviews on the net

Http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/forum_thread_id? thread_display.html = 363

Http://www.trailspace.com/gear/sea to summit reactor thermolite liner/--/#reviews

As I thought as I knew, no product meets expectations, certainly not 10 degrees as promised. Too expensive considering, you should buy a k hotter than anyone who has And who here are some solutions for upload: bag Brown

You have to remember that a bag or clothing is suitable not heat but maintains body temperature, isolation is the magic word. Need to keep warm inside, the body produces the heat.

600 kg is suitable for body, does not contain enough air to heat and contain too much and it will lose heat empty spaces.

Synthetic outer cover a lightweight bag, encapsulate the disadvantage-condensation and dampness that can just be nylon to a coverage sack.

Warm clothing lightweight addition to sleep, tights, stocking, hat dry socks regards to sleep you can wrap your feet in brass in the t-shirt bag most body heat is lost through the head, a balaclava. Not wearing cotton because it absorbs moisture and cold, synthetic and artificial fibre preferred.

Don't wear too much in order not to sweat, moisture and heat loss cold =.

You wake up at night and no solution? Get out, do exercise your body heat warms up and it will be with you in a bag back to him. But don't sweat it.

Push the bag at the bottom as much as possible into the empty casing. And you of course will be in it.

Pee before you go to bed. Not keep. Need to urinate at night Don't wait, get out and peed.

Shake the bag before bedtime to get more air into an isolation cell at night.

To sleep in a tent, not outside.

Don't sleep naked. Change with warm clothing suitable as f.

Do not cover the entire head inside the bag, the moisture condenses and causes heat loss. Ditto not to bag zipped all the way in order not to create condensation in the bag.

Not to settle in low areas or topographic depressions that there is cold air.

To check wind direction, wind wherever there is heat loss.

Wake up every morning in a night was wearing pants and a jacket storm if necessary, within the emergency isolation bag.

Do not drink alcohol before bedtime.

Reverse warming than synthetic.

Silk liners or cotton will add little.

Be sure to close the bag around your body heat escape.

A thicker mattress.

Put a hot water bottle in a bag (a course for kvenk like the Platypus)

Eat high energy food, sugar, fat, before bed or a hot beverage. Your body heats up in this heat and stays awake at night bag. Food and energy intensive.

Sleep in years.

And in an emergency you can use this:

Blizzard Survival Bag

Http://www.blizzardsurvival.com/product.php/100/blizzard_survival_bag

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 18, 2010 3:10:08 AM(UTC)
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Ma,

Responses from kind TRAILSPACE. Ditto those on REI:

Http://www.rei.com/product/705534

Anyway, I really enjoyed him in the Israel National Trail (INT) because:

D easy-less than 200 grams.
-Minimal volume.
-Pleasant to the touch + maintains a clean bag.
-Added warming significantly (although not at the level that the manufacturer declares it. "and I think expectations" are causing the negative opinions on) backpackinglight.
Allows the use of lighter and modular bag-summer days it is not necessary to take the-liner thing and sticking with miles.

Disadvantages:
-Relatively expensive (~ $ 250 in Israel).
No heat 10 + degrees according to the manufacturer (though the change is noticeable).

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:27:41 AM(UTC)
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Sleeping bag for 4 (real) matches I think most of what you need.

And as already written maybe available to add Leiner if necessary.

Silk liner of Rod weighs 150 grams and is 100% silk as isolated marble.

Maayan

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omri79  
#8 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:54:30 PM(UTC)
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While researching at the MARMOT haven't found anything exactly in the specified range.
15F it got 5.8 C-30F it have 1.

Marmot Sawtooth

Marmot Never Winter

Anyway I prefer to buy upside down.
Suggestions are welcome
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#9 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 7:58:57 PM(UTC)
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Ma! You're ruining all the fun!

No alcohol, no nudity?

If you wake up every morning you get exercise outside? That's because the outside source. It is better to exercise in.

And if you need to pee then go from hot to cold out bag? Lucky wrote take a bottle. It can be also be warm solution.

And the worst ... To sleep two in a tent with who.

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#10 Posted : Friday, May 21, 2010 12:18:49 AM(UTC)
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Irish friend, please tell me about the adventures that included alcohol, sleeping naked. I saw myself in a feathery snow tent outside the morning the next day to walking with a backpack of 18 kg in some high mountain, maybe this summer sounds nice.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, May 23, 2010 11:13:26 PM(UTC)
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Omri, a kind of mean to not Mammut Marmot. And as far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as liner made. You can find cotton liners, silk, synthetics, but probably not different.

BTW, I also have the question of Sea-liner thing to Summit-I am very happy with it. He added 8 degrees (it is ridiculous to even mention such a thing), but it does add some nice easy, and only uses it to warm you. Nmrdxt 40321.8437384259
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#12 Posted : Monday, May 24, 2010 12:35:58 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = TRAVELERS]

Sleeping bag for 4 (real) matches I think most of what you need.





The reference is to the recommended temperature of the spring-liner thing he asked

I also know how to distinguish between the companies and still very interested in the bag that is opposite of MARMOT

I have some of their clothing and am very pleased (including gket.)
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#13 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:27:48 PM(UTC)
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Http://www.mammut.ch/en/...+Spring.html?cid=1206191

Ivenglik, extreme comfort, 1-17, 830 long caused people like me. I think that my next bag and probably fits that specification. 140 pounds or 240$ area.

If necessary, my-liner thing adds about 6 degrees (check) and I in the kilo in severe winter.

Opinions, anyone? Tzurlis 40327.5751157407
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#14 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:10:35 PM(UTC)
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Alpine style sells bags of Ajungilak, it might be cheaper to book away already (if you have the sample). That will add shipping and VAT and you reach the 200 + pounds.

If you want to order-recommend V12 Outdoorstore, sometimes there are great discounts, order the Ajungilak Sphere 3 Season (on 187 pounds). Deliveries to the country.

I don't think you can go wrong with this company (rod). Although I wouldn't put extreme temperature as in. ..
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#15 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:24:41 PM(UTC)
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Extreme temperature it is very problematic to measure (further comfort that discussed a lot from).
I also don't recommend to refer to the extreme.

Maayan
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#16 Posted : Saturday, May 29, 2010 9:32:42 PM(UTC)
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Not referring to extreme at all, but a consolation כ"מדד" to prevent freezing. One of the things that these marks was extreme rating. Too high. That's why I reviews if anyone has experience with it, and maybe I'm the Guinea pig. Or successful, or not. However, ivenglik should justify the quality.
Not watching a chance to get even closer to Earth temperature, maximum minus 2 with the wind freeze hard conditions under the curtain, and you know what--beyond the minus 7.

The comfort I do care. Therefore, the calculation is the usual 95% & the time, + if necessary, if any,-liner thing.
7 good stewing bag at 12 degrees when open. Need something easier.
Saw Ta, really good prices. In addition, you can purchase a similar price elsewhere.
 
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#17 Posted : Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:22:12 PM(UTC)
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Create, V12, once they leave the great deals (I looked and saw nothing in the sack) when I bought the bag it was 20% off.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:34:25 PM(UTC)
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Prefer to stay in this thread and open a new one.

Well, my ivenglik arrived this morning. Don't V12 wanted to tell me what shipping so I ordered from Greece through eBay.

The final cost was $ 998, including shipping charges, conversion charges etc.  No Customs was obliged (they sent the item as a gift). The time was 5 working days from payment standard airmail delivery! (Who wants to contact the seller, can send me a private message).

Too early to determine the bag opinion. A first impression, it's definitely one of the most professional I have ever had in life in camp. The difference is the other huge upside bag: according to some quality stuff, no drain, wash the stitches on another level entirely, the cells may amazing totally asterpis. Again, no comparison to make two bags, which should be good. It so much.

The zipper quite effective and not get caught, although the need to hold a certain margin to flow smoothly. Close the zipper up and down driven opening. It looks good, but need to see how to function in the field under the actual bedroom.

I ordered size 195.192.-and it fits like a glove. There is enough room to sleep in, but just as too much and too, too hip and shoulder. The closure head is very effective, I have ever seen. Not subtle stuff and should be water repellent in fog and heavy dew level and internal matter but it seem breathes.

Storage bag came a half grid, and an admirable compression sack – the highest level I've seen to date.

Lack of closure and shoulder bin interrupting, look how. Maximum throw in what you think.

Bottom line, in the meantime, when I compare sleeping bags as the natural European Kodiak (until 1350 4 comfort, made) and this LEGO ivenglik Lite and other American equipment, the Europeans are taking the points.  Maybe a little heavier-not much but probably more massive and at a higher level of general work (Word CRAFTMENSHIP I can't really translate to Hebrew). I would like to receive a second opinion from the who travel here for a long time with both.

Full review in six months or a year after this bag will work properly on their own terms.

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, June 9, 2010 1:28:12 PM(UTC)
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I prefer km wide me so I can move around comfortably inside it and feel that it winds around the body. Of course, not too much otherwise it's not worth the isolation.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, June 9, 2010 10:41:03 PM(UTC)
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Create resumes!
Waiting to hear opinions after a trial run.
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