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#1 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:13:54 PM(UTC)
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Congratulations to yankele Saar.

Number of updated maps of States and long trails out new and updated edition

Next week we get here a detailed review of the book.

To yankele, after one fatal reviews I've written , the author couldn't bear the shame and fled abroad. Then said it was because of political persecution in academia.

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, July 14, 2010 10:58:19 PM(UTC)
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What can I say well done CHAPEAU

Read your criticism during the coming year, one day will not be enough.

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#3 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 2:10:38 PM(UTC)
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ביקורת הספר 

Start with the good stuff.

This is the latest map of the trail as of July 2010, containing all changes made to the route since the first release and several corrections discovered since. There are no maps store, online or off, this criterion, the project supported by regular updates on the website. Also here to commend editors include larger scale maps to capture the broad ה"הקשר of the tracks and put in their path.

Secondly, this is a significant savings. The price looks expensive at first glance – $ 149 before particular discount skiers Forum (25%) but this is definitely a deal worth, value than purchasing סמ"שים set (60-90 $ for dual noilant. 19).

Thirdly, it is a significant relief. According to manufacturer data, new edition weighs 250 grams only. Be who you want to rip the non-relevant pages – the Golan, Gospel sea water on a path that was not in the first edition and save more. You must find how I can avow to ultra drill holes and reduce a few grams priceless.

Although the short story and the graphic bmadora extended height and it is recommended that authors get them separate brochure or let you download them on your network, but it wasn't the goal, and this is the price (explained by all accounts) for a port to a thousand km trek with 15 pounds if not less maps.

We reached the subtitle of the book: "for Dan to Eilat. It's what he did for the old Israel? Probably changed the name and forget to notify us. Even if it was officially named it something jarring, grammar may be true and pure, but uncommon and answering of slang. But who knows the first edition knew what it was – same color Brown covers the austere, guide him design (Division three) and simple and powerful image of travel upwards Crest top hides the Sun's faint canopy tzalio sky overcast — provide threaten the provider went against the heat, and in the background-the endless desert classic.

Something went wrong with the machine? Not all maps are keeping the same quality. For example: map 57 fewer points to 56 mmola Mapper, and f 48 43 49 42 against versus, etc. There is a variable resolution maps in the middle (where the Photoshop when you need him?). On the other hand, retained the format of the first edition with "panels" that continue the path within existing map. Thus on the one hand, savings in production costs and the purchase, but the tedious iintiaho (God, in the middle of the crest). The intersection between the maps is not uniform. There are maps that include sections that existed among existing ones (27), and elsewhere featured scissors and cut a few millimeters. See you find Hirbat Samara and the confluence of the path under Highway 2 before the Alexander.

Last weekend we went to sample the book between stream caves glaucoma (map 14), and arutino as follows:

  1. The route for accurate and in full.
  2. Map resolution absolutely reasonable especially compared to 15 mmola map.
  3. Not great because the map of North cave stream reserve runs in first semester.
  4. The letters b. ware. Which crops are winning West for enlightenment in (ondukim-bulgur-retama raetam)
  5. Not indicated the existence of a ground for the eastern part until your eye (and normally specifies the fire zone throughout the book). This is an important safety issue.
  6. Vain look of finger ridge viewpoint at the cm of Red; It is six miles west of the first semester.
  7. Alon discovered bptacht Nahal Oren is found the garage day icon, while it is a night parking.
  • I'm not sure that Jihad continues eastward until the confluence with Pine Creek trail. And probably not until tsnirim.
  • Alon searched the gray icon for transparent ishach, caves and found.
  • Areas appear on bare Ridge karmia are from the forest; This photo was taken after the Ascension of ishach caves. Bare space. תצ"א latest update not be o?
  • There is parking for glaucoma
  • Glaucoma leads to parking and highway paved road asphalt-free.
  • Hirbat glaucoma is South of cm, but a half-mile northeast, next semester.
  • However, when the tbrbrano in the north western slopes of Ridge Vineyards well helpful map for finding the azimuth back quickly and are on the premises.
  • Summary: the above review and sample hamppe in the field indicates that it is a welcome initiative, and spent the season for critical of and even bilists. The defects found are mainly technical details some of the data base and some may just of editors. These of course can be improved in the future by upgrading the resolution, more rigorous comparison to cm and the small details. Now I see myself going out for exclusive book or the expanded guide before him. I'm sure the next editions will make it mandatory to follow pods in the long shbilia.

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    #4 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 2:40:50 PM(UTC)
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    As usual-excellent, comprehensive and constructive.
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    #5 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 4:26:41 PM(UTC)
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    Thanks guy for comments.  And here's a longer inspection:

    A. the thread title is inaccurate: this is a new edition of Israel but trail maps new maps.

    2. subtitle: the path from Dan to Eilatno comment.

    C"while the short story and the graphic bmadora extended height and it is recommended that authors get them separate brochure or allow download in the net"

    The story and the way graphs are missing. The number is: long trails in Israel-map. It's not a guide but only maps.

    For the future there are various ideas but at the moment this is all I'm listening level and all the ideas and insights here and everywhere.

    D. resolution: all maps are the same resolution and is the best source for a f-test. Your eye is giving you problems. If there are no changes.

    Then there is white space height Easy on the eye. See the height lines if there are many changes in height as in the map area to prevent 57, you think it is resolution changed.

    All scanned maps in hi res 800 dpi resolution, Photoshop cannot enhance resolution. There are slight differences between the various maps of, and that I don't have a solution nor solving the cost (time).

    E. cutting of maps: no different nation from the Guide and the chakra is the production cost but weight.

    Who the other traveler rip out the pages "Not relevant". When the new maps of f. light trana Consider changes, but God willing ...

    F. destruction nail: cleared all over the map, there is no "cutting" as mistakenly assumed to no matter way to mark a single building Although the nice story.

    It's not a dump (/antique settlement) that matter. However as visitors seek a dump, it's dotted on the map.

    G. 2 meeting with Alexander River: hope you don't fall into the water because of the missing air return the occupied territory. Oops, new maps ...

    H. Road near glaucoma and a dirt road. The level of topographic maps from as a result and also maps of the society for the protection of nature, always is behind the surface occasionally in a few years.

    In January 2010 it was a dirt road. Any changes on the ground as we know it. Look at map 24 has the INBA.

    This switch does not appear on topographic maps. He also does not appear on the maps of the r. But he appears on the map and guide 2009.

    Ask me how? If solved, say good night at made the update.

    About numbered notes:

    1. right?

    2. map? It's the same resolution. The problem is in sight.

    3. true, fixed.

    4. the letter b -bananas-light issue in the legend of Poe. The legend of Poe also appears in the first semester and there are no explanations for these letters.

    (To this day, no one complained. ...)

    5. fire zones (and signs) are not marked on the maps f which is a shame. The thing to change the new maps. I'm looking forward to it.

    6. indeed, on the lookout for. As a result of decreased the comment icon view and put it in the exact spot as the map.

    7. official campgrounds only exist. North anywhere is a nature reserve is an excellent night garage. Official Northern campgrounds are in charge and groups.

    8. true dirt road not until tsnirim, I deleted it from the map, now it's Bill.

    9. we tried to be very accurate about the route of the paths listed in the book, including all the changes, I think it stood respectfully biad.

    There are changes on the Golan have been made in the last few days before the book was published, so I checked and marked. About the transparent missing on the questionnaire.

    I suppose a questionnaire to find few locations on the trail that cross paths and missing that try to install on specific comments.

    10. the amount of trees on the map does not indicate the level of coverage. This is a general problem you by solving the new maps

    When the markup won't be of green trees but to cover the entire space.  "Same problem" you specified in the maps of the society for the protection of nature. But that's not a problem for me.

    Q: isn't this shaved beard bare or covered area?

    11. correct score to glaucoma, parking added with printing. I suppose a few unspecified way day camps on the map would love to learn about it.

    This is also manifested in the news Of f when all parking appear on their base maps.

    12. see my note about the update level of f

    13. mistake. Destruction South of glaucoma. North to have burial cave. סמ"ש has wrong maps and the map which gave a link below.

    14.

    Thank you guy for inspection and comments. Promise not to leave the country because of these comments

    Note general repairs and improvements: a considerable part of the changes and additions coming to the fore only new edition and printing.

    Second Edition depends on the rate of the new maps of f.

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    #6 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 5:49:04 PM(UTC)
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    Ma, thanks for honoring the. It was primarily a desire to correct and improve on the one hand and to highlight positive sides and, on the other hand, non-emotional and I think that the editor not argue.

    If you run, yankele abroad because such criticism. I'd take advantage of my last run by the courts to remove delay departure order unlimited period

    And to the point,

    The eye-the least developed sense. See it at first glance. So not good resolution, no parking garage — all technical details, SIFO of criticism reflects the essence and the other shed.

    About glaucoma destruction, I enclose a link to cm bike tour. She is clearly near the trail and South of red-green.

    Http://www.harim.co.il/trails/Files/MAP20.jpg

    About the way it ends not far from the end of the parking lot, 200 meters after an encounter with a dirt road coming from the Southeast. (There's even some armchair Brown tv).

    In the meantime you can admire the merchant taken 100 m before the confluence with Nahal Oren now see the gentleman who runs it.

    In principle, might need to clarify one thing: in many cases cover update, especially the roads better than staff sergeant book and Berry is not the only example. The new format of Poe certainly meets expectations and improves considerably. Meanwhile, the book also available on the first page of my notes. From experience, every comment I sent was proper treatment, and I hope other users do.
    Now we can only wait for the next release.
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    #7 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 5:19:54 AM(UTC)
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    In the previous edition that was divided into two books, and one Israel to other trails or am I confused?

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    #8 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:11:47 AM(UTC)
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    There was no previous edition. This new book. The title of the thread.

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    #9 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:21:45 PM(UTC)
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    What's true.

    The subject of the thread was fixed.

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    #10 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 7:59:00 PM(UTC)
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    Very good (both the book and the review).

    There is no solution to the problem of updating the f, f is a government company when Lambert. Only private body who competes for his own expense his maps (see the maps). Such private body mapping update costs.

    Therefore, or Pack and yankele himself to update only, or purchasing an updated תצ"א root and update, then improve the existing base of f-economic I don't think so.

    So good to have that too, and hopefully it gets better.

    About drilling holes and reducing how many grams: two parallel holes in ikdach cover, and connect the two small wooden iistim with screws in it (old military patent stealing from a particular unit), can reduce and upload pages at will and to follow the good feeling that no camping item, no matter what it is, which is drilling!

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    #11 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 9:36:32 PM(UTC)
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    If you get a very large donation, then fill in the tzzo field.

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