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#1 Posted : Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:48:08 PM(UTC)
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As I have said in my earlier post (5 children) intend to go for 8 days in the Israel National Trail (INT) from the North in a month. We almost completely inexperienced. We started planning our route, and I plan my friends opted for relatively short for a lot more. As planned, we get to Safed for these eight days (shbarch half the first day going on Dan). Average miles per day is approximately 13 miles. Read journal of bilist, who for eight days until Kfar Kish, which is almost twice as far away from our design. He went nearly 20 miles each day. Although he was just one, and a group of five, and although he certainly has more experience than us, but he went in winter (when the day is shorter), shifting much of the track, and even helped himself to one rest day.

While we don't want to stick to the nokshit frame, and we are planning to stay, but better alternatives to be close. I would be happy if you tell me that you went through, a couple of hours in a day or so to get and how many miles, and what time it is recommended to place (I realize it's different when you for that go to sleep earlier, so I wanted to know from experience what hours are going to sleep and when they wake up I know the sun sets at about 5:20 when we leave).
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#2 Posted : Sunday, August 29, 2010 9:41:09 PM(UTC)
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What ages?

If you and your five average 13 kilometres per day consider less in 8 days. To this overrun about 80 km.

You can also get to the colony's raise your rate but not beyond. It is about 100 km.

Keep in mind that you can't go 10 km to stop because you are in the way in which nature reserves it is forbidden to stay overnight.

Your rate can rise at first light to regroup and reach before dark to set up overnight accomadation.

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#3 Posted : Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:38:13 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = yankale17]

What ages?


If you and your five average 13 kilometres per day consider less in 8 days. To this overrun about 80 km.


You can also get to the colony's raise your rate but not beyond. It is about 100 km.


Keep in mind that you can't go 10 km to stop because you are in the way in which nature reserves it is forbidden to stay overnight.


Your rate can rise at first light to regroup and reach before dark to set up overnight accomadation.


I mean, our pace as planned would be 13 miles. 18. not so know what the rate is, and that's why I asked here.
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#4 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 12:25:44 AM(UTC)
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The average walking per week is approximately 20 km per day. That everyone is fit and fit to do.

Here you about distribution according to your own pace. The exact check on the map or in the Guide:

1. Dan Tel Hai

2. to develop

3. open the iron

4 iron to humaima.

5. seat humaima Miron

6. seat Miron Highway 85.

7. route 85 to the tower.

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#5 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 1:12:42 AM(UTC)
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The Red Guide Maybe another hint-didn't know slim.

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#6 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 11:55:19 AM(UTC)
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If I write the Green, someone may think it's Michelin Guide.
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#7 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 5:16:12 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ofiras] [QUOTE = yankale17]

What ages?


If you and your five average 13 kilometres per day consider less in 8 days. To this overrun about 80 km.


You can also get to the colony's raise your rate but not beyond. It is about 100 km.


Keep in mind that you can't go 10 km to stop because you are in the way in which nature reserves it is forbidden to stay overnight.


Your rate can rise at first light to regroup and reach before dark to set up overnight accomadation.


I mean, our pace as planned would be 13 miles. 18. not so know what the rate is, and that's why I asked here.

Boys 18 years should be able to go a little more than 13 miles a day.

Moment you enlist?

I think you can easily plan a journey that will end in a tower and what better than finishing a week of walking than «you're Trippin'!

Kfar kisch's a little too ambitious and the goal is to have fun and break records.

Interest-lack of experience make a trip in the mountains of Jerusalem or Haifa in terms topography similar to the northern part of the road to get an idea of your abilities. Select a track 15 kilometres, heavy backpacks to simulate the pods that are on that week. A good opportunity to learn if the shoes fit.

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#8 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 10:20:38 PM(UTC)
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The Michelin Red Guide also.
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#9 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 10:42:36 PM(UTC)
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Do you think Amir junction restaurant suitable for Michelin's Red Guide?

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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 5:18:38 PM(UTC)
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Thank you for your comments.
Changed the way our route planning, and now, instead of writing exactly how do we collect, information about accommodation and water points, and it has been seen in the area where we sleep, and thus easier to bend and conform to our pace, we don't know what is. We're not done with this, but when we're done I will post it here to make sure that the accommodation and water points are valid.
Anyway, will be a total of 3 people, and as I think about it, the more I understand how we rate depends on people mostly, and. If we believe, we can do little in Tiberias, even for her.
Our general direction is to get Dan (go around the bus and 12 after all), and sleep, Tel Hai, near the cemetery (we have some rush to arrive before sunset). Then go probably 6:30-7, and sleep next to salvation, Salvation Castle castle go to camp and sleep there for fertilization, Fertigation, ruins of Khirbet homma Meron forest parking lot or Zefat (Safed is a place that would be great), Meron, Safed to the Tower (a bit difficult if you depart from Miron, but get along) there to sleep on the beach, the Tower of Tiberias, Tiberias and and just spend the last day and a half in the city or continue a little longer if we find that there are one of the communities below.
If (not loaded with questions then let me know and open separate clusters of these questions), anywhere in SaFED to sleep I realized there was an Angel, but if Bill gets 5, probably not accept us. Jacob's record directory can also sleep near a Bush defeated (and if you're here, I'd be happy if I make it clear if it means Sheikh or really, plant, although the latter seems illogical, but it also listed on the map), but the map seems to be inside Amud and so all the surrounding area. Also, there is no problem to water in the morning.
And again, speaking of which, there's a way to get water in the stand? Because I didn't find there water point, I think it would be better not to divide the track of stream 2. We also have no possibility to plant water, since we live so far from the North.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 7:27:33 PM(UTC)
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If you are 17-18 you can get eight days before launch as the two familiar Forum

Http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/__about445.html

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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 7:52:05 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = right]

If you are 17-18 you can get eight days before launch as the two familiar Forum

Http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/__about445.html

Don't even think about it.
This is an experienced Explorer, walking alone and sections.
The freshmen hikers in a row for the first time need to understand their limitations and rave.
Tower/Tiberias are certainly reasonable goals.

And a few notes to Ophir:

1. your very way of thinking is correct. Study (water, bed, exit points) and flexible program in case of Balthazar- and there are always interesting.

2. don't forget to take your shoes for walking on water for the first day.

3. the second day. It is a long route that runs mostly in broad ways, but on the rise. Worth you should consider completed opens.

4. Sheikh when he defeated bear Arabic-speaking interior cleaning his clothes in the spring.

Consider the Q7 in Nahal ' Amud (up the road) are the poorest. This is a bare space, in many of the top part (in the water), and steep. Two years ago killed anyone who didn't get it. It's better to do it in the morning, and in case of rain-think twice whether to do the same. Reason enough to finish the day as Hobbs and km steep Safed (next to him). Unlike high school, river bottom (and top) page is a families.

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If you are 17-18 you can get eight days before launch as the two familiar Forum


Http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/__about445.html


I'm not sure. For me to move the trail, but I highly doubt we will be able to keep up as his, because of several reasons--he went not days (except for the first four days), so it was a lot less tired, and this matter completely. He went alone, and we would be 3-5. The first four days in the summer, and had more time to sunset (two to three hours more than I have). And see also has experience, or at least a good fitness because he went very fast (more than 30 miles some days). We didn't come to for the path as soon as possible, but to enjoy it.
I rely on my diary of Nimrod: http://66.7.195.45/~tsabari/nmrd/int/
To be honest, at first I thought we were going to get up at 8 and leave at 9, and we thought we'd get Max to Safed, but we already get up at dawn, and that can go more than 15 miles a day. Maybe we get to the village of Kish, but as I said, it depends on how people become (and people), if what bus rate (we don't know, and don't have time to check), if we are tired, and so on.
With me to Jerusalem in eight days.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 8:33:39 PM(UTC)
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About Amud, a man named Zhang who some days batera planted in parking lot near potters. 054-3161251

Leave Quiche village next time.

If you finish a take home in Jordan.

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#15 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 8:46:12 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = nthei] about Amud, a man named Zhang who some days batera planted in parking lot near potters.

Thanks, just where exactly is potters node? It's the intersection between route 65 to 85? (I.e.-http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=he&ie=UTF8&ll=32.909618,35.474478&spn=0.003193,0.005466&z=18,)
Anyway if you'd like to add a link with the location of the parking garage in Google maps. Thank you! Ofiras 40423.7408796296
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#16 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 9:02:22 PM(UTC)
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Don't even think about it.
This is an experienced Explorer, walking alone and sections.
The freshmen hikers in a row for the first time need to understand their limitations and rave.
Tower/Tiberias are certainly reasonable goals.


And a few notes to Ophir:


1. your very way of thinking is correct. Study (water, bed, exit points) and flexible program in case of Balthazar- and there are always interesting.


2. don't forget to take your shoes for walking on water for the first day.


3. the second day. It is a long route that runs mostly in broad ways, but on the rise. Worth you should consider completed opens.


4. Sheikh when he defeated bear Arabic-speaking interior cleaning his clothes in the spring.


Consider the Q7 in Nahal ' Amud (up the road) are the poorest. This is a bare space, in many of the top part (in the water), and steep. Two years ago killed anyone who didn't get it. It's better to do it in the morning, and in case of rain-think twice whether to do the same. Reason enough to finish the day as Hobbs and km steep Safed (next to him). Unlike high school, river bottom (and top) page is a families.


 



About-open day is quite close to the planned endpoint, a.s. Castle I don't think that matters. Also, if we want to reach through the open road (and not to cut through the mountain, which I'd rather not do because the attempted move which ended in a hospital) so we have to go more than salvation Castle. Of course I've never been there, and you were so correct me if I'm wrong.
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I mean the floor opposite the facility near potters sources (which is 65 and 85 freeways).

About open-it is not advisable to enter into stream Temple (2 km from Nebi yosha) an hour and a half before sunset, steep canyons and modified everything that goes up that day. During the journey, the Boo slid the last Passover and there helicopter t-shirt.

Anyway, do you have another port 5 km before parking cracks open. There can the trail during the dusk (the dirt course and for the blue and cracks). I believe that there can be located in the parking lot (there's water in the shepherds one mile lenny), although concerning the spirit I am prepared to commit.

By the way, parking lots are not marked on maps at סמ"ש North just South

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#18 Posted : Thursday, September 2, 2010 10:13:23 PM(UTC)
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I mean the floor opposite the facility near potters sources (which is 65 and 85 freeways).


About open-it is not advisable to enter into stream Temple (2 km from Nebi yosha) an hour and a half before sunset, steep canyons and modified everything that goes up that day. During the journey, the Boo slid the last Passover and there helicopter t-shirt.


Anyway, do you have another port 5 km before parking cracks open. There can the trail during the dusk (the dirt course and for the blue and cracks). I believe that there can be located in the parking lot (there's water in the shepherds one mile lenny), although concerning the spirit I am prepared to commit.


By the way, parking lots are not marked on maps at סמ"ש North just South



OK, thanks. See how we power and decide on the spot. I think we can get to Nabi-inexperienced yosha while exploring (food, tents, navigation, etc.), but we had already walks with a guide, and we're in good shape.
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Eight days (5 + 3) reached Mashhad. Selfish (40 +) and then was 12.

-Exit route to the geological period, fertilization, bridge, when Bush defeated, tavor, junction, Jordanian, Mashhad. The first five went on Pesach and the following three weeks.

We were in reasonable shape but no prior experience on foot (except a short experience).

Because of her age carried most of the equipment. The main difficulty.

It is true that shorter winter days, but walking much easier because there is less water to take. In good weather we guarantee top 30 miles per day.

Eight days until Kfar kisch-young-fitness company shouldn't be hard at all, especially if the weather is better for you.

All daytime advantage there. Most importantly-to activate the head-start and increase depending on ability. If you have already experienced walking-know what you can.

Good luck

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Eight days (5 + 3) reached Mashhad. Selfish (40 +) and then was 12.


-Exit route to the geological period, fertilization, bridge, when Bush defeated, tavor, junction, Jordanian, Mashhad. The first five went on Pesach and the following three weeks.


We were in reasonable shape but no prior experience on foot (except a short experience).


Because of her age carried most of the equipment. The main difficulty.


It is true that shorter winter days, but walking much easier because there is less water to take. In good weather we guarantee top 30 miles per day.


Eight days until Kfar kisch-young-fitness company shouldn't be hard at all, especially if the weather is better for you.


All daytime advantage there. Most importantly-to activate the head-start and increase depending on ability. If you have already experienced walking-know what you can.


Good luck



A little late for us to change plans when we leave Greece tomorrow, but according to our plan, after much thought, changes and comments of experienced travelers, are we supposed to get to the Tower (it comes in around 6:30-7, because the long travel back and forth). If you mean that you and your daughter, no experience, maybe we're wrong to Mashhad. We don't even know what our rhythm, but we have some experience of series and other excursions.
Just a little late to change plans (our planning includes water, accommodation, food etc), so I wanted to know if I can handle in the field without planning ahead? We have a book here, but about water, food and lodging to handle
I guess on the first day we get smart more than ahachmano per month and last six months picked up right away, but it's always good to know before.
And Brown probably will be very hot despite the short days (like this season's), so it would be warm and have to carry and drink plenty of water, and there's not much time to travel (not to mention allergies.)
Thanks and happy,
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