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moshe-as  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 5:10:46 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone I'm going to Israel with 10 for October 5th from the North to South in a row. Just one more ... And do the landfills

I made a list is done with regard to equipment not everything considered and measured things I have unfinished business and I need opinions.





Equipment


Company


Price


Weight


Quantity



Case.


Mamut hute route 75 L


1150



1



Shoes


Asolo POWER MATIC GX

Or

Yatna Richle


1100 (MTB)

Weight 700 (Alpine style)



1



Socks


Bridgdle-traker


Probably buying it at the track.



3



Travel pants men apart.


The North Face

Or

A Conference of mamut


Route 350

Alpine style 350



2 (considering take just one easy budget problems)



T-shirts


Mamut loop t shirt

Or

Other companies ndefot shirts sweat


200-Alpine style.



2



Underwear


Ex Ex Officio As

Or

From ikrofibir


100 – Alpine Steele

Delta (need to check price)



3



The km


Mountain hardware-6c

Or

Mamut tundra 3 season-4 c


520-

590. Alpine style.


1350 g

1450 g (Unfinished 100% weight)


1



Inflatable mattress


Mamut core bi women mat


590. alp?n Steele



1



Walking sticks


Leke Ultrarlight.


450 d-alpio style



2



Tent


Low light Ferino tent d

Or

Style Azetech For four people


900-alpio style

400-מסלול-ללא הנחה


Jack 2.5 includes rain cover

3.5 including rain cover


1



Torch head


Mamut lcido TR1

Or

Quad pezel


160. Alpine style.

Route 260



1



A towel


Tek xl


125. walking after discount

150 – stillaa alpio discount





Trophy


Bask


225. alpio steel


250 g




Lederman







Watch







The wonder







Solar charger







Crocs







Hat







Sunglasses







A bag of drinking a gallon.


Source










Accessories for the trip.

* Camera + camera bag

Windscreen

10 m wire length

נגן MP3

Harmonica

2 toilet paper rolls

Washing gel

Cooking

Of a hotplate Outdor

Lighter

Knife fork סכו"ם

Topped pot with handle MSR

Titanium glass used as the Klezmer Conservatory band

Hygiene

Mosquito repellent

Amenities

Detergent for washing your hands without water.
A toothbrush

Baby wipes

Needle

Tweezers

Sewing thread for your records.

Navigating and literature

Several new Israel trail map

Compass

Read book

פק"ל ע"ר
פלסטרים 3M   --10
Nets – 50 Gr. (orangutan)
Shpshfot therapy. 100 גר' (Actitalc)

Advil pills age

Multivitamin pills.

Allergy

Moisturizer

Anti-inflammatory pills for spies.

Pills against diarrhea.

Anti-itching lotion

Kompid against warts.

Sponsor
LiorEl  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 6:21:23 PM(UTC)
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I don't know what the equipment has been bought, anyway.

Dossier:
75 litre bag is pretty much,
I had 70 litres and is a little awkward. If you are planning another designation for him except for well, but know that 60-65 litre certainly enough (and I prefer less). It is important that you measure, he settled on you with weight and fit into a size/size.

Trousers.
Make sure you buy the model with thin fabric (I made a mistake and bought a. .. Carmen) don't need two pairs, one pair is broken down enough and more shorts 1.

2 shirts, 1 ndefot from one ordinary and funkier head band-Israel enough. (Are you doing mandpt (SAEN Saeb fast) and in the meantime put the t shirt.

Underwear,
I don't feel goods underwear although I like to buy expensive things. Delta's macho worked very well. Important important! Take itching cream of MORAZ Borja doing wonders in the night before with inhef wipes clean the area and apply. Never apply during walking or shazor. And of course the more fan. Big not suffered nearly even if shpshfot was then Borja came to help.

Take miles even easier to track, if necessary make sure bring your liver.
The bag are very heavy, maybe better to invest another 300 other stuff sack weight easier.

Inflatable mattress I think it unnecessary for Kenya and the terrain, and I slept great on 12 mm platib you can also splurge on 15 mm. weight 60-80 stores. (No need for too thicker insulation in the ground, you can always remove epenim and hatkmben easy ground.

Walking sticks-the best Kenya do not matter so long as model to feel comfortable in your hand (and good friend). An amazing thing! (Take 2-15.)


These tents are the mooneeee! 2 and half that much, but if you deal with someone else somehow okay. You can buy this TARPTENT Mare weighs less than a kilo and does a great job, there are many models I traveled with klaodverst.

This flashlight a flashlight, take batteries-spare, these lamps have a amvann time.

A towel you can definitely save a MOP or Microfiber-Nicole feels nice, doesn't look like a MOP (comes in nice colors) does an excellent job! Easier, and it costs $ 15.
The smaller size, did I mention that I got a great big.
Only if you have a lot of hair head need to dry it doesn't fit. But you can take 2.

Trophy a little more. Thermal undershirt and take another normal tank added to chshitkrer. When there is wind you've got to be inside the tent if it's getting dark early.

Solar charger is nice, but the desert almost always have a place to recharge. Do yourself a favor get Nokia phone with battery that lasts for ages.

Under no circumstances give up bumpy! It is very important!

The rest is fine.

Finish with the purchase of shoes and start walking with them.
A two-day trip to try.
You will see that no matter how much you think you think you find yourself taking things you don't need, get rid of them.

And ... have fun! It's an amazing trip! Take it in fun.
moshe-as  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:05:19 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = LiorEl] I don't know what the equipment has been bought, anyway.

Dossier:
75 litre bag is pretty much,
I had 70 litres and is a little awkward. If you are planning another designation for him except for well, but know that 60-65 litre certainly enough (and I prefer less). It is important that you measure, he settled on you with weight and fit into a size/size.

Trousers.
Make sure you buy the model with thin fabric (I made a mistake and bought a. .. Carmen) don't need two pairs, one pair is broken down enough and more shorts 1.

2 shirts, 1 ndefot from one ordinary and funkier head band-Israel enough. (Are you doing mandpt (SAEN Saeb fast) and in the meantime put the t shirt.

Underwear,
I don't feel goods underwear although I like to buy expensive things. Delta's macho worked very well. Important important! Take itching cream of MORAZ Borja doing wonders in the night before with inhef wipes clean the area and apply. Never apply during walking or shazor. And of course the more fan. Big not suffered nearly even if shpshfot was then Borja came to help.

Take miles even easier to track, if necessary make sure bring your liver.
The bag are very heavy, maybe better to invest another 300 other stuff sack weight easier.

Inflatable mattress I think it unnecessary for Kenya and the terrain, and I slept great on 12 mm platib you can also splurge on 15 mm. weight 60-80 stores. (No need for too thicker insulation in the ground, you can always remove epenim and hatkmben easy ground.

Walking sticks-the best Kenya do not matter so long as model to feel comfortable in your hand (and good friend). An amazing thing! (Take 2-15.)


These tents are the mooneeee! 2 and half that much, but if you deal with someone else somehow okay. You can buy this TARPTENT Mare weighs less than a kilo and does a great job, there are many models I traveled with klaodverst.

This flashlight a flashlight, take batteries-spare, these lamps have a amvann time.

A towel you can definitely save a MOP or Microfiber-Nicole feels nice, doesn't look like a MOP (comes in nice colors) does an excellent job! Easier, and it costs $ 15.
The smaller size, did I mention that I got a great big.
Only if you have a lot of hair head need to dry it doesn't fit. But you can take 2.

Trophy a little more. Thermal undershirt and take another normal tank added to chshitkrer. When there is wind you've got to be inside the tent if it's getting dark early.

Solar charger is nice, but the desert almost always have a place to recharge. Do yourself a favor get Nokia phone with battery that lasts for ages.

Under no circumstances give up bumpy! It is very important!

The rest is fine.

Finish with the purchase of shoes and start walking with them.
A two-day trip to try.
You will see that no matter how much you think you think you find yourself taking things you don't need, get rid of them.

And ... have fun! It's an amazing trip! Take it in fun.

Really thank you for your comment. I take a big bag to keep me abroad. Still didn't get any ... Next week, I buy it all.

UM about the shcsh I'd rather buy one shcsh him with me for the trip. And he would be good and would be suitable for another.

I will take your advice about the towel and save myself 150,

About the tpent tent. But not just how to apply. And take time until it arrives. So now I have to do something.

Wind Jacket's thought as an alternative to thermal vest and shirt still weighing much relative

Solar charger is right I give him to the South and take him.

And what about the deliberations have listed? In shoes, shcsh and more.

And thanks again

LiorEl  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 7:32:22 PM(UTC)
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Also abroad, I'm not sure if it is necessary, depending on where you plan on another plane should drop slightly in volume.

Regarding, I traveled with CATS MEAOW TNF he's had very good cold nights but I couldn't get him the leg cozy nights ...
Every single match to minus If you plan to use it abroad then there are additional considerations (bought that km is hot because I want to explore with New Zealand too).

It doesn't really matter which, if she is a good friend and she's so good and easy. Gore-Tex or not depends on where else again Gore-Tex you designate. The country doesn't need but not so terrible if. I traveled with Salomon's shoes with Gore-Tex type Explorer, I had them years ago and at the end of the trail for their soles weren't more. But they were very good and comfortable.

And again, he spurns not opening, and if your tank preferably tonight this very cold one or two each, can be in ...

If you were coming in so sofaachorf is something else, but you're not scene is expected to be so cold.

Another thing.
If you buy a particular equipment you can't return it to the store. But our country is small, you can always stock up if necessary. So I really recommend not to load too. LiorEl 40428.6908333333
TRAVELERS  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 8:40:24 PM(UTC)
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Backpack-a me too I spent 65% of aim.
In terms of product price-it's great.

Shoes-a massive stomach more and heavier I personally prefer leather but also other great shoe. Price of the TIC system works I'm pretty sure I can get it for less.

Trousers-these levels it doesn't really matter what's company.

A funkier head band-Israel-Alpine's shirts in also ask should be cheaper. Regardless of desert sanoo Ricochet does the trick.
Underwear-read examination of one of the Forum has a price performance and conclusions.

A-if you designate it also better to invest overseas and to buy more fighter miles easier
Mattress-mattress? Men and also of snow peak.
Walking sticks cane likely price.
Perino Blau-Lite, Lite, excellent tenet Perino isn't very expensive. About the terptant I have learned volumes but it's a personal matter.

TR1-enough. Don't need extra batteries

-Prefer a towel and MOP floor, Perino's most pleasant I think them of Eagle Creek, price depends on the size.
Rather small.

Trophy-might, a raincoat (soldered seams).

Emergency charger-integrated flashlight.
Standard charger.

Crocs-sandals, it's better you can go with them.

I Hat hats for Sun Weiss "sunscreens with protecting the neck and embroidered a recommend.

-D hydration bag a gallon in my opinion not enough you want to reinforce.

Everything else seems likely.

Maayan
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moshe-as  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 9:00:19 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = TRAVELERS] backpack-I think I spent a the aim 65% of a gallon.
In terms of product price-it's great.

Shoes-a massive stomach more and heavier I personally prefer leather but also other great shoe. Price of the TIC system works I'm pretty sure I can get it for less.

Trousers-these levels it doesn't really matter what's company.

A funkier head band-Israel-Alpine's shirts in also ask should be cheaper. Regardless of desert sanoo Ricochet does the trick.
Underwear-read examination of one of the Forum has a price performance and conclusions.

A-if you designate it also better to invest overseas and to buy more fighter miles easier
Mattress-mattress? Men and also of snow peak.
Walking sticks cane likely price.
Perino Blau-Lite, Lite, excellent tenet Perino isn't very expensive. About the terptant I have learned volumes but it's a personal matter.

TR1-enough. Don't need extra batteries

-Prefer a towel and MOP floor, Perino's most pleasant I think them of Eagle Creek, price depends on the size.
Rather small.

Trophy-might, a raincoat (soldered seams).

Emergency charger-integrated flashlight.
Standard charger.

Crocs-sandals, it's better you can go with them.

I Hat hats for Sun Weiss "sunscreens with protecting the neck and embroidered a recommend.

-D hydration bag a gallon in my opinion not enough you want to reinforce.

Everything else seems likely.

Maayan
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UM thanks for the comment.

Just tried the mmot's case and it was comfortable and in this case be 75 liters. So I thought fit, too

I was going to charge. No batteries, charger

I consider this as a wet rag to trim costs,

Ditto about the mattress. It is set for women because of the altitude. Up to 1.75 and 1.68 and it saves me money. In this place that guys longer,

Regarding what kind of bag do you prefer mutual

A bag of drinking 3 liters combined with more 2-liter bottle

And thank you for your help.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:33:02 PM(UTC)
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I also intend to charge cell phones.
I just mean enough to 65 litres and I dated for 45 liters.
About the mattress is not the only difference. But we want that it doesn't really matter.
Regarding km I prefer.

Maayan
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:47:22 PM(UTC)
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Just a few things that stood out to me-no need 2 pairs of trousers or 2. Enough 1 of everything.
Separately, perhaps something minimal but sufficient long shirt and tights, maybe.

About sleeping bags, they may have some hot and heavy, but if you want them to apply, so go for it.
With tents-perhaps you can find some easier tent.

Why do you need a fork and knife Enough're letting her in.
Why should also remove jachnun and titanium glass- I think that is enough.
10 thread? For what?
A book to read? Usually after a day walking energy to read.
All the balls on the end if you get infections and diarrhea, off trail. I think only enough headaches and some band-AIDS or something. Kompid is also good.

Leatherman was too. For the times you use it on the road, the same locomotive twice, instead of carrying it in the rest of the month.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:24:19 AM(UTC)
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On the words of Chris. Some notes (some already spoken):

-Liver-tent, if you consider option to something easier to not take at all.
-Insert enough trips also one funkier head band-Israel shirt
-Solar charger-no need.
Lederman is very heavy. Possible knife/multi tool easy.
Weight 1100 old Oslo» shoes this is crazy to me (I have old Oslo 6 I'm very happy of them).
Start reading without school. Probably won't miss you.
-A towel-for replacement. To me, "professional" travel towel is a waste of $ 100-150.
Headlamp flashlight head 40 NIS can also do good work.
Crocs-through due to weight.
I have underwear the EX-EX OFFICIO AS was very happy of them.
-For what? It seems to me.
The file is too big but overseas trip consideration sense (although I like the old-fashioned kind with 60 l. abroad).

The recommendations are under experimental and personal reasons-remember that many LESS mbachinot IS MORE. Have fun.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:38:50 AM(UTC)
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I bought the Golden Mall Ricochet 2 shirts at $ 120 DesertSnow have 1 + 1
moshe-as  
#11 Posted : Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:04:13 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = right] bought the Golden Mall Ricochet 2 shirts at $ 120 DesertSnow have 1 + 1

The part I thermal t-shirts of their stay. They were really the question if these ndefot sweat shirts are worth something or want to spend on something else.

moshe-as  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, September 8, 2010 2:13:23 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = HarmonicWave] on the words of Chris. Some notes (some already spoken):

-Liver-tent, if you consider option to something easier to not take at all.
-Insert enough trips also one funkier head band-Israel shirt
-Solar charger-no need.
Lederman is very heavy. Possible knife/multi tool easy.
Weight 1100 old Oslo» shoes this is crazy to me (I have old Oslo 6 I'm very happy of them).
Start reading without school. Probably won't miss you.
-A towel-for replacement. To me, "professional" travel towel is a waste of $ 100-150.
Headlamp flashlight head 40 NIS can also do good work.
Crocs-through due to weight.
I have underwear the EX-EX OFFICIO AS was very happy of them.
-For what? It seems to me.
The file is too big but overseas trip consideration sense (although I like the old-fashioned kind with 60 l. abroad).

The recommendations are under experimental and personal reasons-remember that many LESS mbachinot IS MORE. Have fun.

Thanks for the comment

The fun of underwear but recommended for the area 100 it way too expensive

I took the pants one day tours recommended a funkier head band-Israel one and the towel

About the shoes I'm sure you can get is just a price that gave me the traveler without a discount. I'd probably get some shovels. The hatbtot among the types of shoes richle vs old Oslo

And I will start without really reading what book I would be after a day's walk

Why solar charger not recommended? If you get stuck without the claim?

The Governor of the 2.5 Jack PERINO? Does that count? With rain cover. And it is divided into two people, so let's just say everyone takes Jack 1.25 ...

About weighing fresh take to clear at night down then put itching cream against

About the Lantern thought to invest and buy a good flashlight to remain for a long time and something that will be destroyed in falling or require a lot of batteries.

And thanks for the comment

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, September 8, 2010 1:04:57 PM(UTC)
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In fun.

100 per bottom it is expensive, luxurious (it felt like I bought them) but in retrospect I was satisfied with the purchase. Recommended especially if you think shpshfot-don't go with plain cotton bottom. Entirely.

About phone. If it is closed during the day, and 10-20 minutes in the evening, it can keep for a week. That's more than enough. Anyway, the North doesn't need the solar charger.

Regarding this tent-judgment in my opinion if you plan for the long term to carry him on alone, 2.5 kg is too (considering its price). Of course, a shtthalk with another person it sweetens the pill.

The crotch can be cleaned with אלכוג'ל and toilet paper. Anyway, don't take a whole package (weight).

Cheap Lantern will consume him and islolle power battery (this is the same technology). The differences are in quality of construction. If you're going to bring him down so often invest.

Remember that whatever you need you can add/bring while for (rather than buy extra stuff).

Happy new year.
אסף פרידמן  
#14 Posted : Thursday, September 9, 2010 5:40:45 PM(UTC)
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Hello Moses

75 case sounds very reasonable, this is the place to mention that I travel olteraliit like many here and warm him up the road we also tent (Nava has paranoia of reptiles/reptiles) and it's definitely a place you grabber plan to carry water for 2 days it comes instead. Further thinking on future trips (overseas with tent?) completely leaning toward the 75. This particular model I don't know but sure Rod alakipak company.

I know the shoes models. I love leather. For me it's a little more breathing from Gore-Tex and still protects moisture in crossing of small nachlonim or even just walking in wet ashvia (happens a lot and I really hate it when I asked random cold day). Moreover the skin usually have full durability for years to come.

Socks I probably won't address 3 times I purchased expensive socks (twice of even very expensive!) all the silly sock inside the shoe. I'm going with sports socks sweaty and feel good about myself. BTW I also sweated socks.

Trousers are a product that I recommend it warmly. In my opinion there is no need for more than one pair and bathing. Recommend נורת'ס for pace. Pace נורת'ס advantages: 1-zip at the bottom of the foot that demands shoe averaging time saver of chapter. 2-ריצ'רצ'ים in different colors to the knee and his left knee save when power thought to think. 3. check for resistance. Cons: 1. open the back pockets for years. 2-front pockets sit in front of the hip and side, but I used some friction.

A funkier head band-Israel, wonderful thing I have great experience with: Kraft, Lowe Alpine, נורת'ס mountain, ardevr. Bad experience with native. I for one brief and one long.

I'm going with underwear boxers and good for me.

That's about 2 miles-very good companies. If you are considering that k also cold places abroad was considering investing.

-Inflatable mattress I tried twice and twice I slipped him during sleep. Other than those 2 nights I slept on platib (never shared). Stories about their tires and inflated and air nightly and morning and pricey don't make me. The only advantage of swells is the place he addressed the case in relation to platib.

Easy-although I did the trail and many others without them, since I'm going with I stand corrected, very helpful. I'm going with akspidishein and benefits: flare only on the top, 2 bottom openings open with Finn and it speeds up opening and folding. Nice material grip (platib) that is not only up in cane but along about 30 cm and variable barrier Palm can be downloaded without the stick. And the biggest advantage these folding sticks to the smallest size (at least when I checked about a year and a half ago).

-We went with (see section file). In a season where you go I think it's better to go with (I can't imagine myself with wet feet and much more difficult for me to think about that (I have reverse but no matter) is wet). I know the current models but with 3 tents and more to buy the fourth I think weight is an important function. I still haven't bought terptant but that doesn't meet the tent itself (like the terptant) seems to me sufficient punishment. In the desert (half the trail as a reminder) very hard to put pegs and resolve to stretch my tent with stones seems lame to me . A-often need to add a string to enclose the stone. In need of serious rock to draw the oval properly and that inappropriate prevents liquids (condensate/rain/Tal ...) to come and they end up dripping you nose at worst or a bag in the worse case.

Flashlight with LEDs seemed like an almost compulsory equipment. I would take it to carry spare batteries and gives peace of mind to use a flashlight as you wish. I have excellent experience over the years with several models of split. Very bad experience with Ivan lacadiimond (Meyer 2 m and some time).

I got a wet towel that travel I had a dilemma facing a MOP.

Trophy-I went out for a boy with soft seal to wind and rain resistant low (out rboloshein old model generation no longer produced) is good for.

Leatherman seemed more completely. All I had to cut cut with a knife.

Watch

Phone charger-we argued. The phone was turned off most of the time and opened every evening to charged in South and North talks. Also in the South are coming into every few days so that the solar cell charger seems completely unnecessary.

Crocs? joining some sort of recommendation, I think it better to go with sandal. However, we tried to go with sandals (Neot Smadar fingers) and finished with חבל"ז warts.

Hat with better coverage. I went with a mushroom and two days later cut and plugged into a protective hat. If you want to invest some of the mushroom CAP has come with Alpine hinterland can fold into the hat, got one and I'm very happy with it.

Sunglasses-required

Hydration bag-great product. I have a problem with the format of the blow job so I use the bag only when Jack to fill 2 bottles 1.5 I carry with me. I have 2 bags of MSR of 6 liters and the other 10 liters. Both contain half a litre less than amocher. Unparalleled quality. I travel guide and as such I encountered a crowd. Encountered more than once root bags opened/closed/well exploded at, I don't think it could happen at MSR. Of course there is also a big gap.

With all my camera to photo anhanun took a small camera (not the reflex) and I'm sorry.

Windscreen?

From 10 m seemed like the most useful. Great, when a torn shashroch download the file on the cliff, hanging clothes out to dry, etc.

It was a play. I didn't and I'm sorry.

Harmonica isn't for me.

Toilet paper-important

Washing gel-we took one with solid SOAP showered him washed.

Gas burner-rocket great Phuket MSR's!!!

Lighter and lighter Sapphire

סכו"ם-we about us product ףמזלג one of Xan-excellent. And one knife for both of us, the simple jagged every kitchen with plastic handle is also used as a bowler when we need.

Jachnun pot with handle MSR.

Titanium Cup-took the plastic pot, mug and aluminum kettles.

Here's our list hygiene:






אלכוג'ל

Organic SOAP
Toothpaste
A toothbrush
Combs
Sunscreen
Multi-purpose hydrating cream
Allergy ball




Eaoten
Tylenol
Optlgin
TALC
Halabin deodorant
In listecs
ספונג'טה
4. toilet paper
Baby wipes
Garbage bags and General
Polidin
Sbiaor
Gauze pad
Bandage
A triangle
Purifying pills
Bind

Literature: we didn't take any and I'm sorry. I have all the maps just swept the 125cc and the relevant sections and printed them. Like that could go with A4 paper in your pocket which is far more convenient maps, throw him a day or two what lower weight. And on days when you move more than one map for us everything was scanned that page. Dated pages until Arad where a friend brought us the other half.

Lastly and most importantly: everything is possible and fun. The mark indicates himself made the running shoes for people who did that for about 90 tent NIS gas station I carried a lot of weight and had no problem with it, etc. Read and choose whatever you want.

I enclose all our log (list of my clothing and left fitting):






Tweezers
Nail file






2 bags

Tent without cover

2 sleeping bags

2 mattresses

2 hydration bags

5 bottles
Topographic maps


2 lamps

Funnel

2 lighters

The blowtorch

Balloon

Pot

Pot handle

סכו"ם to Xan

Knife

Deep plate

Demitasse

Canned opener.

Wine opener

2 cups

A piece of glass





Normal and thread
FLOSS and needle is thick
Strings
Safety pins
Spare batteries
Emergency toilet paper







Sunglasses Sunglasses
Sandals Sandals
T-shirt 3 t-shirts
3 panties 3 panties
3 socks 3 socks
Gatkas Tights
Long vest 2 long t-shirts
Red brass Red brass
Soft shield Wind block.
Bathing suit Sleep socks
Brass cap Brass cap
Sun Hat Sun Hat
Glasses Shorts
Shoes Shoes
A takedown A takedown






2 cell phones.
Charger
Notepad and pen
Printed phones page
Planner page
««Landfills
Sealed bags
Money
Certificates
Camera

Food:



Salt
Oil
Sugar
Tea
Black pepper
A loaf of bread.
A box of crackers.
Sandwiches for Sunday
Yellow cheese
Nutella
6 sachets of soup
6 side dish servings.
12 tibulies
3 jerky
Almond suite
Palm suite
Pecan suite
Fig Pack
Pack of waffles.






2 bags
Tent without cover
2 sleeping bags
2 mattresses
2 hydration bags
5 bottles
Topographic maps
2 lamps
Funnel
2 lighters
The blowtorch
Balloon
Pot
Pot handle
סכו"ם to Xan
Knife
Deep plate
Demitasse
Canned opener.
Wine opener
2 cups

A piece of glass

Have fun

Assaf

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4. toilet paper
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#16 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2010 3:59:06 AM(UTC)
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Hello Moses

75 case sounds very reasonable, this is the place to mention that I travel olteraliit like many here and warm him up the road we also tent (Nava has paranoia of reptiles/reptiles) and it's definitely a place you grabber plan to carry water for 2 days it comes instead. Further thinking on future trips (overseas with tent?) completely leaning toward the 75. This particular model I don't know but sure Rod alakipak company.

I know the shoes models. I love leather. For me it's a little more breathing from Gore-Tex and still protects moisture in crossing of small nachlonim or even just walking in wet ashvia (happens a lot and I really hate it when I asked random cold day). Moreover the skin usually have full durability for years to come.

Socks I probably won't address 3 times I purchased expensive socks (twice of even very expensive!) all the silly sock inside the shoe. I'm going with sports socks sweaty and feel good about myself. BTW I also sweated socks.

Trousers are a product that I recommend it warmly. In my opinion there is no need for more than one pair and bathing. Recommend נורת'ס for pace. Pace נורת'ס advantages: 1-zip at the bottom of the foot that demands shoe averaging time saver of chapter. 2-ריצ'רצ'ים in different colors to the knee and his left knee save when power thought to think. 3. check for resistance. Cons: 1. open the back pockets for years. 2-front pockets sit in front of the hip and side, but I used some friction.

A funkier head band-Israel, wonderful thing I have great experience with: Kraft, Lowe Alpine, נורת'ס mountain, ardevr. Bad experience with native. I for one brief and one long.

I'm going with underwear boxers and good for me.

That's about 2 miles-very good companies. If you are considering that k also cold places abroad was considering investing.

-Inflatable mattress I tried twice and twice I slipped him during sleep. Other than those 2 nights I slept on platib (never shared). Stories about their tires and inflated and air nightly and morning and pricey don't make me. The only advantage of swells is the place he addressed the case in relation to platib.

Easy-although I did the trail and many others without them, since I'm going with I stand corrected, very helpful. I'm going with akspidishein and benefits: flare only on the top, 2 bottom openings open with Finn and it speeds up opening and folding. Nice material grip (platib) that is not only up in cane but along about 30 cm and variable barrier Palm can be downloaded without the stick. And the biggest advantage these folding sticks to the smallest size (at least when I checked about a year and a half ago).

-We went with (see section file). In a season where you go I think it's better to go with (I can't imagine myself with wet feet and much more difficult for me to think about that (I have reverse but no matter) is wet). I know the current models but with 3 tents and more to buy the fourth I think weight is an important function. I still haven't bought terptant but that doesn't meet the tent itself (like the terptant) seems to me sufficient punishment. In the desert (half the trail as a reminder) very hard to put pegs and resolve to stretch my tent with stones seems lame to me . A-often need to add a string to enclose the stone. In need of serious rock to draw the oval properly and that inappropriate prevents liquids (condensate/rain/Tal ...) to come and they end up dripping you nose at worst or a bag in the worse case.

Flashlight with LEDs seemed like an almost compulsory equipment. I would take it to carry spare batteries and gives peace of mind to use a flashlight as you wish. I have excellent experience over the years with several models of split. Very bad experience with Ivan lacadiimond (Meyer 2 m and some time).

I got a wet towel that travel I had a dilemma facing a MOP.

Trophy-I went out for a boy with soft seal to wind and rain resistant low (out rboloshein old model generation no longer produced) is good for.

Leatherman seemed more completely. All I had to cut cut with a knife.

Watch

Phone charger-we argued. The phone was turned off most of the time and opened every evening to charged in South and North talks. Also in the South are coming into every few days so that the solar cell charger seems completely unnecessary.

Crocs? joining some sort of recommendation, I think it better to go with sandal. However, we tried to go with sandals (Neot Smadar fingers) and finished with חבל"ז warts.

Hat with better coverage. I went with a mushroom and two days later cut and plugged into a protective hat. If you want to invest some of the mushroom CAP has come with Alpine hinterland can fold into the hat, got one and I'm very happy with it.

Sunglasses-required

Hydration bag-great product. I have a problem with the format of the blow job so I use the bag only when Jack to fill 2 bottles 1.5 I carry with me. I have 2 bags of MSR of 6 liters and the other 10 liters. Both contain half a litre less than amocher. Unparalleled quality. I travel guide and as such I encountered a crowd. Encountered more than once root bags opened/closed/well exploded at, I don't think it could happen at MSR. Of course there is also a big gap.

With all my camera to photo anhanun took a small camera (not the reflex) and I'm sorry.

Windscreen?

From 10 m seemed like the most useful. Great, when a torn shashroch download the file on the cliff, hanging clothes out to dry, etc.

It was a play. I didn't and I'm sorry.

Harmonica isn't for me.

Toilet paper-important

Washing gel-we took one with solid SOAP showered him washed.

Gas burner-rocket great Phuket MSR's!!!

Lighter and lighter Sapphire

סכו"ם-we about us product ףמזלג one of Xan-excellent. And one knife for both of us, the simple jagged every kitchen with plastic handle is also used as a bowler when we need.

Jachnun pot with handle MSR.

Titanium Cup-took the plastic pot, mug and aluminum kettles.

Here's our list hygiene:






אלכוג'ל

Organic SOAP
Toothpaste
A toothbrush
Combs
Sunscreen
Multi-purpose hydrating cream
Allergy ball




Eaoten
Tylenol
Optlgin
TALC
Halabin deodorant
In listecs
ספונג'טה
4. toilet paper
Baby wipes
Garbage bags and General
Polidin
Sbiaor
Gauze pad
Bandage
A triangle
Purifying pills
Bind

Literature: we didn't take any and I'm sorry. I have all the maps just swept the 125cc and the relevant sections and printed them. Like that could go with A4 paper in your pocket which is far more convenient maps, throw him a day or two what lower weight. And on days when you move more than one map for us everything was scanned that page. Dated pages until Arad where a friend brought us the other half.

Lastly and most importantly: everything is possible and fun. The mark indicates himself made the running shoes for people who did that for about 90 tent NIS gas station I carried a lot of weight and had no problem with it, etc. Read and choose whatever you want.

I enclose all our log (list of my clothing and left fitting):






Tweezers
Nail file






2 bags

Tent without cover

2 sleeping bags

2 mattresses

2 hydration bags

5 bottles
Topographic maps


2 lamps

Funnel

2 lighters

The blowtorch

Balloon

Pot

Pot handle

סכו"ם to Xan

Knife

Deep plate

Demitasse

Canned opener.

Wine opener

2 cups

A piece of glass





Normal and thread
FLOSS and needle is thick
Strings
Safety pins
Spare batteries
Emergency toilet paper







Sunglasses Sunglasses
Sandals Sandals
T-shirt 3 t-shirts
3 panties 3 panties
3 socks 3 socks
Gatkas Tights
Long vest 2 long t-shirts
Red brass Red brass
Soft shield Wind block.
Bathing suit Sleep socks
Brass cap Brass cap
Sun Hat Sun Hat
Glasses Shorts
Shoes Shoes
A takedown A takedown






2 cell phones.
Charger
Notepad and pen
Printed phones page
Planner page
««Landfills
Sealed bags
Money
Certificates
Camera

Food:



Salt
Oil
Sugar
Tea
Black pepper
A loaf of bread.
A box of crackers.
Sandwiches for Sunday
Yellow cheese
Nutella
6 sachets of soup
6 side dish servings.
12 tibulies
3 jerky
Almond suite
Palm suite
Pecan suite
Fig Pack
Pack of waffles.






2 bags
Tent without cover
2 sleeping bags
2 mattresses
2 hydration bags
5 bottles
Topographic maps
2 lamps
Funnel
2 lighters
The blowtorch
Balloon
Pot
Pot handle
סכו"ם to Xan
Knife
Deep plate
Demitasse
Canned opener.
Wine opener
2 cups

A piece of glass

Have fun

Assaf

Hmmm I begin thank ... See you put in response. I have a few questions.

About shcsh-I wrote I should invest more? What do you recommend a better place these years? It actually matter where I go for a walk (that I still haven't closed.)

About bag-how much does a bag of MSR 6 liter area? If enough 3 bag combined with a bottle of 2 liters of water

I wrote the shield meant to shield the blowtorch

Funnel-necessary?

Warm clothing-seen taking lots of warm clothing, fleece tights, wool Cap. Long vest. Would be necessary for this? Hot shcsh good tent and a waterproof rain coat. Not provide somewhere?

About the page printed phones know what coordinated phones?

Sealed bags-what was needed?

No tent to take rain cover wasn't necessary?

Thanks again for all your help. Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

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#17 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2010 11:13:39 AM(UTC)
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Hi Moses

I have lots of miles good keys. We currently are running around with Marmot helium (to my knowledge does not exist in the country 9-850, 880 comfort, make, us $ 370 two years ago). I think if you see a future with the tour is outdoors in the mountains (Andes, Alps imalia, etc ...) you need at least a mile of comfort of 6. Good company = mountain ardevr, marmot, North Pole, pace and probably has a few more that I think about them right now. Upside down or it's synthetic. I found that you cannot rely on temperature data of companies and good-o I'm not sure I'd sleep with comfort at my bag.

I have no idea how much today MSR bag are sold at the track (the mnsiveni store provides exceptional service and warranty). Keep in mind that the bag is sold without a drinking tube that you need to purchase separately. These bags are used by all the elite IDF units, I have a friend who serves in the army and he told me that John can go on the bag and it doesn't go off not checked. The bag probably costs at least twice as root but it would never fall off.

Our windscreen to the blowtorch, nightly built windscreen-stones in our fun.

The funnel used to fill the bottles from bags. Don't like the shlocr.

I haven't used tights. Mountain nights were cold and wearing a long thin thermal vest over her micro brass (listed as red brass) and on this soft thin and wore a brass cap. It wasn't too but I might have a shot.

I have no problem bringing our phones page but is probably out-of-date today. As a rule he included the numbers of all the angels might get to them of all supervisors that we inevitably took place of friends who live in different areas, burying vehicles and containers (if we have an emergency Board).

Sealed bags contained credit cards and driver licenses. We had these bags in my opinion because no advance purchase required.

We didn't take rain cover. Dated March 15th from Eilat (a month too late in my opinion but there were work constraints) and except one night (Hirbat haomima Director) rain.

I answer and note that I'm not the only one apparently invested in question.

Happy new year

Assaf

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#18 Posted : Friday, September 10, 2010 5:21:44 PM(UTC)
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I summarize in just to thank everyone for all the help. Anyone who invest here and writing answers properly. You're doing a great job and really help thanks.:)

Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:05:27 AM(UTC)
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I have a question (hope people are still reading here)
I go for a Friday, for a week. I saw many recommended a takedown. Some reasons I don't take those for.
Is enough to get 2 pairs of shorts? (No paper but ones I usually make them count). Do I need plus trousers although relatively hot?

Thank you
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:19:17 AM(UTC)
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So the evening and with spikes.

Maayan
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