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#1 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 1:39:08 AM(UTC)
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Hi!
I want to buy that will serve me both long-range trips and are short trips. I.e. "a".
I was thinking about 50 liters.
I so understand the files, but I use case I furmula VAUDE W 60 liters
He had a tour in several days but on short trips it was quite awkward due to his back pack.
It is therefore also important to me lightly.

I've looked around and found these two files:
OSPREY KESTREL 48L.

VAUDE 50L ASYMMETRIC

What do you recommend? I'd love to hear the Badlands and disadvantages.
For what it's worth, I'm in m 67, thin.
Thanks in advance, Erik the red. Erik the Red40440.95625
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#2 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 12:08:41 PM(UTC)
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Hello
I have one of the two shells that you specify-osprey kestrel 48.
This bag has two main dimensions to fit torso lengths (distance between the seventh neck to the top of ilium) — s/m and m/l. to backpack the system adaptable to the exact length of the torso with connecting and disconnecting of fabric Velcro (Velcro, Velcro ====). Details about how to measure torso length can see osprey website.
The appropriate measure is apparently s/m size of the backpack if s/m is 46 and 48 litres.

Advantages of the shell:
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1. press back the equipment back portfolio and close to the center of mass to the traveler as deuter air comfort's back in pro. The convenient carry case.
2. the main space is large and easy to load (it is not distorted by arches, system 22-deuter air comfort pro). Note that case is designed to load weight of 14-18 kg only. The maximum capacity of the aamusti case cell consisted of a compact tent (2 folding ferrino chaos of ~ 40 cm, 2.2 kg), a drinking bag that contains 3 liters, three water bottles containing 1.5 liters each (aqua nova, wide and low bottle), a sleeping bag, and food.
3. multiple pockets. Among them you will find 2 pockets backpack, hat and belt.
4. There are shrinking, and straps for attaching mattress (even platib) at the bottom of the bag.

Disadvantages of a backpack.
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1. movement in a tunnel under the railroad tracks at Nahal tzin (welcome hamakhtesh hagadol), which included as a pod Hat fucking dry humping in the tunnel ceiling, caused the pinhole in the ultimately disastrous war the fabric. If desired, add image.
Until here the description of the facts and the impressions-the future, provinces that are not backed by facts.
Elastic fabric chosen for the side pockets and map (?) is very delicate. Although not damaged so far, I have to use those pockets.
Matching back with Velcro system does not look durable over the years, although she does hers.
Chest strap holder looks problematic, though not caused any problem so far.
2. when the main compartment, and a bag full of drinking and its destiny, is an arcade back system
3. I'm afraid that the case would be too great for day trips.
Happy new year! Yonatanb 40441.4198958333
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#3 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 12:36:57 PM(UTC)
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Jonathan-well done on the equipment.

Eric-a significant difference between a brief trip through my sleepless in brief is an area that once b need a tent, mattress, shcsh, Cookware, clothing, which means more immediately a large backpack for two to six months.

Short trip enough 25-30 litres that will not carry you to 15 kg.

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#4 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 1:49:04 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the torrent! Brought me information on this case:)

Write back system can load bow.
I got back pretty tricky, so it's important to me that the back of the case to be rigid and stable.
For example: VAUDE case which I got to use the system you would hard material [I realized that their patent] so that their backs were very stable.
Do you think over in Throop answer?

Right to take 25 litre bag, but I prefer to get 50 but orthopedic.

How about model of VAUDE?
Or offer to another file?
Erik the red.
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#5 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 5:54:55 PM(UTC)
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Hi, Eric.
The question has been referred to me related to osprey osprey kestrel – kestrel doesn't answer tough conditions that place.
System frame back in the inner frame osprey kestrel 48 is flexible. The contact area of the back with no back rigid.

Like me-very knowledgeable in the field of equipment and backpacks, and the experience teaches that one must go through a backpack experience.
This backpack and bag, and reviewed by users abroad however, criticisms of equipment is difficult to break the chaff from the straw. I suggest you trouble yourself to the store holds the pod and pod of vaude, load them in all your gear (don't settle for weights in store, as Greece they do not simulate the mass distribution in a pod) and check suitability in static conditions (first, check Internet guides how to adjust straps for backpack, agnch back and chtepich). This way you don't bother the clerk with questions. If you like carry the osprey backpack, and you live in the Tel Aviv area and her four daughters, lend their expertise for a long trip pods one day (and this forum is allowed on its outside our country:-).

Below that highlights the ceo Forum, you should know that there are internal frame backpacks or rucksacks lack internal frame but with the volume set back within 25-30 liters. Carrying backpacks and day with Mrs Pack and Mrs system and I do not know if such a system is required when the equipment is small and easy as that required in a day trip.
Sincerely, Jonathan.
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#6 Posted : Monday, September 20, 2010 9:24:44 PM(UTC)
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If I had more money I would buy a small bag.
But this type of case 50.

Indeed, I have to put myself.
My friend got one of these, thanks
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:44:09 PM(UTC)
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Uki.
I went there yesterday to wok in HoD Hasharon check VAUDE case.
The case has a half-back system, rigid and snaps my back but not so felt she puts the weight to the hips.
In addition to case mdidit enjoy personal service and robbed another case of tonka, is not attached to the back but the weight to the hips.

Due to that hatati to bring home equipment used in weight.
Allegedly with the VAUDE barbell rest that attaches to the back.
But I'm not sure that bmshklim 10 pounds is easier on the spine [in addition to having back problems], as opposed to shuffling tonka the weight to the hips.

Then brother drove to the cliffs, the store owner was busy and got right in and help files, plus there was the "Castle" in the case.
Same size [M/L] really wasn't too easy without a sinker.

Happy holiday, Erik the red. Erik the Red40443.501412037
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