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aviv_melamed  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:50:05 AM(UTC)
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זמי1  
#2 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:12:38 AM(UTC)
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Don't understand this thing with noilanot maps, who goes for a walk in the rain? Weighs 10 times and cumbersome as I don't know what. I haven't seen this anywhere in the world. I understand that Italians use for obvious reasons but on the trails?
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:57:19 AM(UTC)
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Ma you know?

The nylon to be stage clothed in night.

If strays in the desert possible with nylon to produce water from plants.

And it's also a great bag of trash, instead of dumping and polluting.

And put your shoes in plastic so you don't get wet from the night dew.

And more ... And more ...

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 4:04:07 AM(UTC)
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Great!
Thank you.
sdnl  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:26:10 AM(UTC)
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Why disparage.

Not everyone who travels with map making hiking and think about every ounce that he carries.

Noiilant map is preserved much better for a lot longer.

It's really annoying how the maps non-tear noiilanot easy-folding line also extra careful to keep them.

Sureal  
#6 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:42:37 AM(UTC)
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I personally prefer the mnoiilant.
Much better preserved.
It is possible to mark indelible marker marks.
Can be used for other things, more or less degraded, for example, map flit insecticide etc.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:04:56 AM(UTC)
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I also use moiilanot maps.

The contrary, I was very surprised the first time I've seen and no noiilan.

But when you have a friend talking about cut portions of the map not to carry too much – I guess – exclusive weighs them too.

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#8 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:49:01 AM(UTC)
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Well, really. What ideas do not good nylon I have a few more.

It's not derogatory. Don't be so serious. A little fresh breeze (?) these hot days.

sdnl  
#9 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 11:24:25 AM(UTC)
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Mark, your ideas for using plastic wrap, and chill the atmosphere.

But when shkora starts looking at Ma's response, he thinks this map noiilant. So yes there is a place to discuss the issue to recognize another.

Most importantly, no matter how just maps to explore

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#10 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 5:03:28 PM(UTC)
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I have a long discussion with Committee for trails, I print the map in a format convenient to carry and walk and huge sheets, probably Matthew 11:27 reasons or personal obligations that stop that Europe and France have convenient guides for walking paths and maps if you want. As the use and purpose. What to study? See how complicated using map for Israel-charts How much money. There is no justification. No implementation and understanding of incla guide rather than go for maps.
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#11 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:55:26 PM(UTC)
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What's better is a matter of each and what suits him. I prefer the large map and get along with. Even in Europe we trekked with large mtkaphot maps and several languages.

The advantage of the maps is that you can look at a track and Greece. A collection of small maps every time need to understand where the seam between them is very difficult.

I think dividing the rest areas maps necessarily driving range for all of Greece, but not all in one map.

The issue price is an entirely different topic. The price is expensive and makes people not want to buy maps of the area they are planning only a short trip.

Dear price also problematic due to the innovation map – happen to have map 1 from 2004 and 2006, have a few differences, and since the 2008 version. From here to stay up to date have to pay dearly (don't have any version of map, but in General).

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#12 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:29:27 PM(UTC)
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Except for Israel, a small number of guide definitely enough for him, there's a lot of long trails. It is no secret that Clary, trails Israel as one who travels a lot in them regularly, Pocket Guide is definitely not enough. And a park map from noiilant very quickly at that rate, therefore I choose noiilant map!
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#13 Posted : Thursday, September 23, 2010 10:34:12 PM(UTC)
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I'm totally with this Sureal.
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#14 Posted : Friday, October 1, 2010 1:20:53 AM(UTC)
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We scoured the relevant parts from map of the trail, and niilano independently, so each A4 page had two maps (one on each side), and so saved weight and every time we ש"נגמרה"-...
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