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#1 Posted : Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:28:30 PM(UTC)
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The great himalaya trail

Looks like a very preliminary stage, unchecked and not organized, but a dream.
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#2 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:29:10 AM(UTC)
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Exist in Nepal. This connection of all major routes. (Can't find the tracks of course). It takes a FULL part of MOUNTAINEERING. I think it should go in the middle of his nights differently. Two pieces made. (According to what I see as the intended route). I think outside of that Nepal will never be. The East. Hopefully some more years to finish all the Nepali part. Cost a lot of money. My next part to KANCHENJUNGA, MANASLU Imtl 40464.8980902778
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#3 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:17:59 PM(UTC)
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Sounds very interesting. But presents some logistical problems.
I think due to the restriction of the Nepal treks to short seasons makes it difficult for the Jaffa for once and need the execute for parts.

Also the need for organisation of porters and equipment needed to set up a new stops each section and a waste of money.

In my opinion, to call these trails interconnect called the great himalaya trail requires a path initiated will allow visitors who aren't rock climbers to experience it and certainly not for the rich only.

It would require the flexibility of the Israeli authorities and the establishment of infrastructure that doesn't exist in most places.
The question is, is it good or bad for Nepal?
Or whether the Government is able to organize?
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#4 Posted : Thursday, October 14, 2010 3:09:23 PM(UTC)
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Correspondence with the person, then trying to push this project I can tell you that new paths. This is an ה"שבילים connection between kangchenjunga West. As you can see in the LOWER HIMALAYA is also TRAIL site. Even in the high mountain area, but will object, or already exists as a walk along the dirt paths between the villages in LOW LANDS without any logistic problem. On the other hand, it just doesn't seem interesting. But that's me. It will fit any tourist no mountaineering experience.

There are a few people who have this thing in one fell swoop. They are that the ל"הקים org GHT. They are climbers. At one agency, clearly has been trying to organize an expedition next year, the course will cost about 30,000 euros. Of course they arrange all the equipment and the porters and guides, and any and all. Some take the juice from walking trail. But in the case of the GHT you have no choice. Also climbers take help in Himalayas Need logistics.

Good or bad for Nepal. A difficult question. Anyway it's not pulling tourists amounts because most go a few huge trail in Himalayas So I don't think it will change anything. Himalayas may really belong somewhere remote and hard to get. Before the start in Kathmandu and Pokhara and several large villages and then move to the infrastructure for.

What do you think about the other countries? Any chance something in China and possibly in northern India?
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#5 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:49:30 AM(UTC)
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Good question.
As for the Chinese, there is no chance as long as the current regime in power.
The Indians in absolute panic Chinese so I don't think they would welcome all sorts of tourists running them around.

Ladakh has paved ground can certainly put them into one long and wonderful for.
For example: צ'ילינג--of darcha mioro-grounding-Karnak-דרצ'ה. Formidable track sharing can be done without prior and org require coordination with trekking.

About am, there are some itineraries of seven to 10 days, but because of its proximity to China, I find it hard to believe that something will come of it. Perhaps the connection with Bubba-Parvati pass from Spiti to aimch.

Most routes are אוטרנצ'ל as Greece "North-South" and "East-West" so I think that would be a problem but you have to look at the map of the geographical area and the existing routes. Maybe something can be done.
East more Nepal border passes in Darjeeling and Sikkim area to Tri.
Again, the sensitive border with China and instability in Nepal will prevent any such network in the near future. That's what I think anyway.

30,000 euros? This is really a disappointment. Apparently we are condemned to do continuous trails in Nepal. Org or (at least in the East, I think that's possible on some routes).

The short route specified in site ontanirit important, but beautiful mountain route between tribes and Nepalese tapes, I think it's also a cultural value in addition to the fascinating scenery (but as you say, it's not about the upper Himalayan stops breathing).

I'd love to hear details of the operative programs to Kanchanaburi-SI. Sounds fascinating.
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#6 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 1:53:22 AM(UTC)
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Are you going to get to a meeting? We can discuss it there.

Definitely agree about China and India. I think it stays forever of Nepal. Oh well ...

The short can be beautiful and interesting I agree. Currently attracts me the high Himalayas and I'm ready to put money on it. I'm not going to spend 30,000 euros but it cost me a few thousand good anyway because the Tashi makalo and to Chile won't go but in.

Like I said I would be happy to discuss with you if you encounter.
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#7 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 2:46:19 PM(UTC)
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I'm definitely going to go, but because I'm a bit scattered and no diary I hope I haven't planned something else for the day. October 28? Thursday. I hope to get.
About Tashi to heard in the climbing Canadian mountains. We sat in namch and she told me so many stories. Sixty-year-old woman about guiding expeditions there. Sometimes meet people so interesting.

Anyway it would be nice to meet everyone.
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#8 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 2:51:30 PM(UTC)
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I met back then burned to decide I'm good enough as a Westerner to be kind of a nerve or a pet and wanted me to come with him to Tashi to Chile. I have a feeling he wanted Porter ...
Anyway to this deal in Tashi and Trek.

So meet Forum meeting.
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#9 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 8:03:41 PM(UTC)
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As for India, it is possible to connect tracks aimch, Ladakh and oternch more or less continuous Trek (to short pieces on the car), long four months, probably difficult, in my opinion. Ladakh part overlaps the proposal of encouraging.

The schedule includes some days: drmsala-Ravi-Manali Valley (3 weeks)-down pass-rlch צ'נדרטאל-דרצ'ה (2)-padum-maioro (3 weeks)-צ'ילינג-Marca-(2 weeks time great need "also included)-an Tso Moriri (2 weeks)-Kaza in Spiti (10 days)-danker-Valley Gompa Bubba pass-by in kinnaur sangla (one to two weeks, depending on the extent of use of the vehicle in the area) niituar in oteranch (this week)-Ki-imonoteri-Hanuman Chatti cousin-metal Sangam Chatti (2 weeks). From here it seems to me that it is difficult to continue with pawn sequence, can be cut to Rishikesh, or "Skip" ramshackle, gngoteri Paz.

Most of the track you can obtain food every week and separation and/or hire a guide when necessary. The part of Ladakh's melt to Casa requires the assistance of a travel agency might spend (and pramits). However if satisfied with part of Ladakh is melting derch simple logistics (in summer).

Not sure if I should wait for the Indian Government ש"תפרמל". In the meantime also gradually nsallot way to remote villages so that the character is likely to change.

With regard to Nepal, if don't want to tangle with complex logistics can rely on next track season ש"ממלא, Nepali (about two months): Kathmandu-lmbo-langtang-tmang trail-the Ganesh fruit-imal rotate-rotate Annapurna SI and Annapurna base camp pucar?. The remote also can eat and sleep every night in the villages, shepherds huts.

Regarding China, already possible to trek from West Nepal to Kailash in Tibet, but only on an organized group and dearly.

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#10 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 8:26:59 PM(UTC)
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I don't believe in Nepalese. Let go in January without a problem and the monsoon in mid-July. The question of what and how to see the benefit.

I went to La Paz on February and of course a shatarganti in tamel was 70 percent empty and there is nothing to talk about. So- Weather was great and simple. Can cope with cold and I have to say that wasn't too cold before and after the pass. You can read my story and find out.

So there is also the LOW ROUTE you can go it without a guide, and logistics. But not in the high Himalayas. As encouraging note is definitely not disqualified him. The route you suggest BTW this gorgeous course certainly gives a sense of the long walk in the Himalayas. Not difficult at all. The only thing it is important to note that it is impossible to get to rotate and anaslo. Have to pay expensive pramit only with a local guide. You can always try to avoid or to bribe the guards at checkpoints and in Annapurna.

I'm glad that more people are interested in it. Imtl 40466.7403819444
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#11 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 9:38:48 PM(UTC)
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The proposals are very beautiful.
Zvika drmsala, your genius. I'd add that you can pass on to melt and instead to coordinate with the Agency to see in nimling and Karnak for selling, but hollow to villages. Away as a decree and said Tso Moriri Spiti.
Sequel in oternch (the garoul imal) problematic in terms of seasons. I guess late June-early July is a good time to reach the ampeta pass. How long each track to inner? If the Traveler passes through early October, he won't have too long to explore the Himalayas in oternch due to heavy rains and landslides. On the other hand, one month should pass to David Tal.

About Kumaon districts, I have a feeling the rough terrain and conditions should open. And wait for the spring season.

About Ladakh, now from what I understand, in the middle of darcha-nimling season is a track that can be done independently with accommodation and eating in teahouses and home stay in villages. The way of the Tso Moriri nimling Feng road order to require coordination with McKeever treks from La.
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#12 Posted : Friday, October 15, 2010 10:16:34 PM(UTC)
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Encourage, Zvika,

When you indicate you need trekking company in India to certain segments, what is the reason? Whether the technical sections require additional equipment and help?
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#13 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:33:46 AM(UTC)
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I think RAM February is a great month, Nepal, as well as the first half of December. There are also areas that don't drown in monsoon (Mustang).

-Encouraging seasons (and forgive me ALE) would rather start in oternch, around mid-May, when the relatively low passim in this area – open to midnight to Spiti in late June before the monsoon, reaching La Paz headquarters towards mid-September after the monsoon, and reach drmsala by the end of October. A total of five and a half months when the track "in my estimation of net" requires four to four and a half months, so you can rest in the requisite places like her, Nelly, Kazaa etc. Of course the weather does not always obey the rules.

I slammed the summer in Ladakh, and collected a lot of information. Indeed as stark-דרצ'ה letter encouraging pedum mioro-צ'ילינג-marquet Valley can be done on the basis of independent villages and tea houses to mid/late September about (though this year, due to flooding, some tea מ"בתי were closed sooner). To Spiti pramits required (for Tsu's Tso Moriri and region North of Casa Bella could spend or Kazaa) and logistical assistance due to the large distance-3 weeks-I walk without places to stock up on food. The minimum is hiring applicants, whether by NSA or Casa Bella and villages, carrying food to cslosha weeks (cost 3 turn with about 1000 driver-rupee-$ 22 per day). It is also possible to arrange with travel agency delegation includes in addition to turn even a guide and a Cook (a $ 50 and magnitude to one per day for a group of three or more).

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#14 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:47:33 AM(UTC)
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Hi Zvika,

I'd like to see the information you have about the Himalayas in northern India. Are you coming to the meeting? Or was otherwise.

About the time of the assessment. By the establishment and evaluation for example 3 weeks?

I don't think there are villages in this way means you must stop. You can obtain basic food in villages and sleep anywhere convenient. That's tent. It's an approach I suppose. I'd love to hear your opinion about it and Northern India.

I think that can be explored in January. This source is something that you can control it with appropriate equipment. The toughest passim filled with snow and ice all year round so it doesn't matter about thisimtl40466.9084606481
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#15 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:04:40 AM(UTC)
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Zvi, I thought dodocka walk. To begin with, drmsala to cross the tracks of separated in June-July and reach Spiti in mid-September.
In terms of seasons, there are some constraints.
1. go to דרצ'ה-צ'ילינג-nimling-mioro in high season (July-August) to perform. From nimling to Spiti anyway need logistical coordination with horses and food, so it's not so much that whenever this section (as long as you don't exceed October hoping that the weather doesn't go crazy like this year).
2. Nelly-drmsala-la דרצ'ה rlch must be done in spring (May-June) after the melting of the snow off the tracks.
3. not to exceed beyond mid-October in oternch then begins and winter roads are temporary villages close etc.

Eyal,
About using a trekking company in India, is logistics.
There are many sections without villages in a way which means you have to carry food for a few weeks in addition to other equipment. Because it is not possible to obtain through, some horses that lead (and of course I mean poniman).

About seasons, La mneli road, which crosses the main Himalaya range, active from mid-May (at best) or June (if unlikely) or July (at worst). The road was closed in mid-October to late October (depends on the intensity of storms).
I.e. from November to June, Ladakh is disconnected.
In winter, it switches of up to 40 degrees at night and many roads are closed due to heavy snowfall. Hamster food in villages fall that should keep them alive until the end of the winter. Then gradually extend new ways.

Snow and rain storms en route to Ladakh, along with the fact that mountains not covered in radio drama, vegetation, soil, drift collapse floods, destroying completely the winding road, but changing its position next season (at specific points). Streamer renamed as Greece flow etc. Western Himalayas receive winter. Much harder than eastern Himalayas.
Already in September (Ladakh), certain climatic conditions (Crow come winter), high bars are filled with snow to let Adam and beyond that. Sudden flooding can cause death (or in this particular case I read him, stuck in the Zanskar Trek Trek travel on Hill hokapa from all directions in the flood starved).

By the way, there is a very interesting track on which the Zanskar Trek Ladakh Valley.
It is called צ'דור and includes walking on the Zanskar Trek frozen river, in the middle of winter, the steep ravines heard him. The track and comes included on the flight because the roads are blocked.

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#16 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 4:14:00 AM(UTC)
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Thank you cheer. That's what I looked for reviews. I remember before I went I read in orbit around the Zanskar Trek. It was the only one who knew him in the Indian Himalayas. I'd love to have you and Zvika much information as indicated. Anyway my main interest today is the Himalayas of Nepal. BTW, another thing, have you ever been in China, especially in the karakoram area? I.e. K2?
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#17 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:48:15 PM(UTC)
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-Deer and schedule estimates are based on some small foot-trails (not ammars.), conversations with agencies, and informative books and hanternt. Of course you don't have to stop and no problem to sleep anywhere, but for my taste and the families eating and exploring remote villages is a big part of the fun from Leh to the East. This is of course a matter of taste. This is also about walking in the midst of winter-it might be possible but not fun for me.

Regarding China and many Chinese krcoram-travelled and moved in (relatively) nearby to K2 when traveling through the kshger through krgilik to Western Tibet and Kailash and continues on to Lhasa in parallel and North of the Himalayan mountain range. The mountain doesn't seem out of the way. When I was checking kshger about the trek to the base camp of K2 recall Chinese authorities won't allow you to get there, but only through an independent agency and astronomical cost. However, kshger can the famous krcoram road leading to Pakistan, stunning and include two peaks from the 7000. BTW, you can see the K2 from Ladakh.

Oded-stark probably possible in both directions. Was the change in September in Ladakh and the weather was great, but it's certainly not. Major floods this year, which killed more than 100 people in August. About the Zanskar Trek the Zanskar Trek Ridge he saw hippies and leaves more-maybe next year. In addition to hiking, Roger also desire to swim the river. In General, a talking TRANS imalia views amaze me every time.

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#18 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:05:22 PM(UTC)
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I checked at the time about the trail to K2. Very high cost relative to the East but not מה3 Coles of akalo or atashi to Chile in Nepal.
I certainly don't intend to deal with the Chinese authorities. I don't feel like it. I even checked on the logon option from Pakistan but the company where no Taliban were happy. Taliban turns deep inside Pakistan as well. Too bad.

I took your advice about. About walking in winter. So it depends on where and what about logistics.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:53:15 AM(UTC)
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I wanted to tell within the attempt to map and figure out what's the best way for an outgoing mission to GHT and document the proposed route through the Indian Himalayas in 2011. Currently the Nepali part completely and covers part of the orangutan. Look what came from India and how it matches what I wrote here. Exciting days in the Himalayas
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#20 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 12:21:30 AM(UTC)
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MMMM
Sounds interesting. I'm really curious about their choice, and the path iforml.
Definitely getting hot in the Himalayas!
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