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HarmonicWave  
#1 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 8:48:58 PM(UTC)
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"Condensing" the city Arad.

The plan.

I saw the map. I think first-class folly-what do you think?
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#2 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 8:57:10 PM(UTC)
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Heart divided on one hand I want as much wilderness without destroying nature. On the other hand, if Jews don't settle in the Negev is ichvsh

By the Bedouin. Anyway there will be war, pressing all feet.

City of purportedly new Orthodox, fencing near Tel Arad junction.

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#3 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 10:06:19 PM(UTC)
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The Bedouin are citizens of the State of Israel, they cannot "conquer" the Negev.
Perhaps if you spend a little more on the development plans of their villages, according to the recommendations of the Goldberg Committee, there will be no war, pressing all feet. Also, I don't think the Bedouin in the Negev "dangers" meters.
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#4 Posted : Monday, November 1, 2010 11:05:34 PM(UTC)
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It is difficult to express an opinion by an article in the press, quite a few of these messages are thrown into new media, any official idea initiator and roll it and then jump on the bandwagon a few and all of a sudden there's like and policy programmes. From here on the very long way izzoya, even if Government support program. There are quite a few other colored bodies and to stop a guy like that, the policy in General is condensing and new communities

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 2, 2010 12:00:13 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = On] Bedouin are citizens of the State of Israel, they cannot "conquer" the Negev.
Perhaps if you spend a little more on the development plans of their villages, according to the recommendations of the Goldberg Committee, there will be no war, pressing all feet. Also, I don't think the Bedouin in the Negev "dangers" meters.

Yeah I thought so too until I came. After 25 years in the area, I can say with great regret the State ipsida the Northern Negev. Do not state any ability to control the illegal construction. Illegal settlements have on every hill and under every tree.

Take the triangle between Be'er Sheva, Arad and Dimona and see what the situation is. Appears, after each Shack has an olive grove and 10 tin shacks without a permit. The amount of resistance is illegal. Bedouin in amounts that city certainly endanger the State's control of the region. Try riding in a "Tel Arad junction undermined is likely to get. When was the last time you went on the road leading towards a girl Yatir forest-

Governments to the dorotihan invest resources in West and Northern Negev lose! Goldberg Committee not responsible for transferring funds from the West Bank to the Northern Negev and certainly not Bedouin. Bad friends!!!

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 2, 2010 12:18:40 AM(UTC)
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I think it's important, though, "damages". We must separate ourselves from nature, human settlements, where he lives, its various products are also part of nature. We always somehow looking at ourselves as something apart, i.e. has the nature and man, which is not true.
Shall we say – as to require the person to respect nature, nature must be required to accept the person.
He is also the political pain in the smiley 40483.8893981481 Sureal
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 3, 2010 12:47:12 AM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה-I understand what you are saying and agree with most of what you say, however:

The program called the program for condensing the city Arad. I'm not sure how new communities will contribute to strengthening.
Furthermore, it is unclear how contributions of new communities will be different than the alternative of condensing the existing communities only.

The main problems of the area-level infrastructure, poor transport, lack of employment centers and the like, will be solved not by the program, and you won't get strong population.
To see the status of some of the villages around to understand what this is about (Mount amsha).

If the goal is to combat the illegal takeover of the land by the Bedouin, so to call a spade a spade.
Even then, I think that the solution to the problem must stem from:
1. the enforcement of State laws in the Negev and the Galilee. Official helplessness is cause for concern.
2. finding alternatives to the Bedouin population (education, permanent housing — even if that means getting to know some of the unrecognized settlements, etc.), and the policy of ignoring illegal settlement in the Negev. This situation resolved itself (and unchecked by new towns in my opinion).

However, the inevitable irreversible damage caused to open spaces and beautiful surroundings, is the only thing.

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#8 Posted : Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:39:27 PM(UTC)
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Here is another article on the subject:

Http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3977877, 00.html
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#9 Posted : Sunday, November 7, 2010 6:40:31 PM(UTC)
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And all say we add this article too:
Http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3977877, 00.html
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#10 Posted : Sunday, November 7, 2010 7:26:21 PM(UTC)
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The article to which I linked, but perhaps worth reading:-) it twice.
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#11 Posted : Sunday, November 7, 2010 8:33:06 PM(UTC)
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Sorry, I opened the link probably reached something else or wrong link.
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#12 Posted : Sunday, November 7, 2010 8:35:16 PM(UTC)
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I mean it:
Http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3979618, 00.html
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