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guy_ziv  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, November 9, 2010 6:49:45 PM(UTC)
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Hello

I would like to receive advice on buying equipment to Israel:
Departure period: early February (go assume that standard and will dry winter as expected). As Greece: from North to South.

1. I'm torn between two tents:

Igloo tent double tandem Aztec + rain cover matches
And Salewa Scout tent II
Cheaper first, but has weaker resistance to rain (I don't know the criteria in the specification, the difference between 3000 to 4000 mm how does it affect me?)

About II is a built-in rain cover in it? So aacama faster? Or like the first need to set up the tent and then install rain cover
After you answer the questions above, please advise on a suitable tent for me.



2. what kind of mattress is better insulated
Mattress platib mattress platib 15 mm or 10 mm + aluminium coating?
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אירי  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, November 9, 2010 7:04:40 PM(UTC)
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Recommendation-start South
This way most likely reach North serious rainfall.
זמי1  
#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:36:24 PM(UTC)
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Mattress pad 15 mm longer and better than thin mat with aluminum.

About the tents-give us the specs with what weight? Price? Consider buy terptant online?

guy_ziv  
#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:53:08 PM(UTC)
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Thanks about the mattress.
Aluminum is much more durable, but the isolation is more important.

About the terptant, my back is happy to go with the above but, compliance, and dealing with it in my opinion.

I've been looking for lists with pictures of sights of the tents and found (red light)
So I hope I'm not breaking the rules of the Forum (If Yes-and delete):

Aztec tent:
Http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/7016900.html
Rain cover for Aztec:
Http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/7017300.html
Full coverage is unknown. Tent weight: 2.3 kg
Price includes rain cover: $ 403

Salewa tent:
Http://shop.lametayel.co.il/cgi-bin/lametayel/204858.html
Weight: 2.9 kg
Price: $ 679 (including rain cover)

:) Please ... Low budget and hard for me anyway. I prefer open nature. But the weather constraints exist.
Also, if I start from the South, I have to sleep in the rain. Anyway, there are other considerations and time and direction.
זמי1  
#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:25:53 PM(UTC)
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Wow full whom 2.3, 2.9, and facing a terptant-price $ 230! Worth a little more and get a tent weighing less mcdoogle some effort and you have a tent, you can always sell it, everyone would jump at.

Http://www.tarptent.com/productsheets/SQUALL2.pdf

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#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:35:23 PM(UTC)
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About tents: the Aztec's weight not including rain cover
In addition it is a tent quite narrow, feel the difference these 10 cm (according to the site)
Interesting with and can take only the rain cover
Explize  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:38:01 PM(UTC)
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Ma-man asked for rain, nothing against insects, humans.

I an going to sleep outdoors, maximum a if there are insects. Synthetic bag is anyway.

The ternfant not come with pockets against rain or rain-resistant bottom curtain if starts and begins to flow beneath you (especially in the desert)
guy_ziv  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 6:53:53 PM(UTC)
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How do you think Aztec's cover should consider
Why does everyone write Aztec? Not everyone transform into two letters? Aztec?

I don't think he spends $ 230 after the customer adds 28-40 $ for shipping and customs clearance puts his hands on it.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:10:43 PM(UTC)
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Basic about BIVI in 500 NIS
Suitable for lightweight little Israel.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:21:30 PM(UTC)
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The Aztec rain cover weighs 900 grams.
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:12:30 PM(UTC)
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I'm not sure where you get your information, but at about tants-very beautiful in the rain, and some models also.
Mainly mshooniot storms and frequent strong stalk.
I also recommend at-Tenet, or something. Even the shipment abroad really a problem (at the time I paid $ 150 customs when I asked which one.)
Explize  
#12 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:44:35 PM(UTC)
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The rating of different tents sack???

How else explain 2 seasons and seasons?

Really I'd like to answer that I should purchase for Patagonia and Peru.

As I looked at the picture at the bottom of tenet-detached from the upper cover (except for the lower two they toured model I think), one can believe that it's good. But they're also ahead of 320 dollars (1000 with respect).

If the bottom is cut off from the top, is it possible to take him in and winds still used layer protects you from the wind? Or everything penetrates?

I don't think the country needs a real tent, that still travelling just bouncing everywhere and if you flood apparently chose to date found it crap and should come home and everything stops. The rest you can handle (to moisturize.. Okay), and rain drops can also cope even without a tent.

For overseas however, removing costs already and take off-so you really need to organize accordingly because the funds already checked out and probably the inhabited place, is not that close and you don't really know where to navigate out shortcuts.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:39:52 PM(UTC)
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Look ... I don't know where you saw the tants that Tharp wrote simply untrue. The whole point of distinguishing mark tarptant Tharp is that everything is connected. It comes as a single.

I was with my Tharp Himalayas/New Zealand/PCT was everything.

The hurricane also tent "normal" can't take that.

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Explize  
#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 9:50:45 PM(UTC)
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From their site just chmusti?? There are pictures.

I looked at the tent that Ma suggested, appears in the first row on the right.

I was wrong?
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:11:34 PM(UTC)
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ALE Please give credit to terptant.

The terptant consists of a floor cloth with chilet, top to play with and to close completely so that air or wind through passage contained the tent stood in snow, rain, winds in the Appalachian mountains. Skoolle model enough spacing to single compact ךלנים. You can take the large model and minimal weight difference.

That advantage is silaniilon which does not need an external sheet. All you have to do is to seal the seams with silicone or request in order to do it for a fee.

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#16 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:11:45 PM(UTC)
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You're wrong. It as a single like I said.
Explize  
#17 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:17:12 PM(UTC)
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And the question, some charge for customs and VAT here??

16% Or have a 12 percent customs plus or something like Bush?

Shipping costs $ 28, I already know that.
guy_ziv  
#18 Posted : Wednesday, November 10, 2010 11:50:13 PM(UTC)
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What about Pureland Breeze?
Http://www.tundra.co.il/product.asp?cat2cat1id=14&Cat2ID=0&pid=1441

Do you fit?
Ma probably contracted the ... But the stakes remain 3.02 home price: 435.
It is important to note that I have the tent to use one-time-only for Israel, but I want to know I'm tolach it safely without Balthazar, at least about the tent.
Now the dilemma is between the Salewa
The specification of the more impressive Salewa but whether Israel enough for the Pureland?

Another question: do we need rain cover for your experience better than that at the beginning of March in the South?
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#19 Posted : Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:09:07 AM(UTC)
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If you are a matter of one-time home center or tent then Ricochet (Ricochet is better).
If you intend to invest some piorland so not (currently)
There are no regular imports, no moving models etc. (Bulk buyers in China).
The Aztec tent nice and built correctly. Good price for the product.
Salwa-not a big fan.


guy_ziv  
#20 Posted : Thursday, November 11, 2010 1:28:03 AM(UTC)
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TRAVELERS,
Received, thank you.
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