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#1 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:54:31 PM(UTC)
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It is better to plant?

Some landfills are really a must if I carry me 7 liters in the South and where?

It just complicates the whole-plant something else?

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#2 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:21:43 PM(UTC)
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Only if you carry 12-14 litres you can save the number of landfills. 7 liters of water amount for one day only, especially if it's hot.

The oikishbil has a complete list of places where you can do the landfills. Check under the Division.

Not true to say "it is better" to plant alone, depending on the situation. You can join others for huge cost you cheaper. But it's definitely possible. If you don't have a car so I have 4 places you never end up.

This season it's best to leave the South and therefore they atmanot for three weeks. If a month then what exactly is the problem?  Everyone does it and you won't be the first or last page.

Here you have a discussion on alternatives to atmanot and their cost.

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#3 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:41:42 PM(UTC)
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There are only three and a half places really need caching:

In (a must!), (it is also possible to purify), tsihor-Paran (can continue 5 km and water Observatory), and perhaps milachn (particularly to go from South to North).

In other places it is possible to hazmanin a taxi, there are regular landfills or within communities.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 6:36:12 PM(UTC)
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He didn't call as an alternative to huge. Is looking to conserve atmanot (Silver). Taxis and expensive as bouncing atmanot. Not true I rely on.

And water-purification

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#5 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:55:20 PM(UTC)
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I don't think it is mandatory to set in. If you take enough water for two days (depending on the season, seven liters in winter in cold days maybe and maybe not enough) so you can get to breakfast or someone gets water for that no problem of access.

And bring water and can carry two days until Ramon without plant farm.

In short this winter no problem with ball and gesture, as long as you are pushing water area Sede Boqer (near the parking lot at track or eye chip).

Wow yankele he talks about money. The complication to realized he could predict where required.

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#6 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 7:58:10 PM(UTC)
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Again I emphasize what I already wrote a time-planning and given assistance and 4WD (family, friends) don't have any burial. And only willing to carry 10 liters of water in winter and summer 14.
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#7 Posted : Friday, January 28, 2011 2:34:53 PM(UTC)
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The weights aren't trivial issues, hard to carry them and think it's so true.
Anyway while walking in the desert, sometimes you have to rely on and who religiously purifying pills has similar cleansing or straw are in sight. In case of emergency, take water without shame or 4 * 4 and legs meet.
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#8 Posted : Friday, January 28, 2011 3:54:57 PM(UTC)
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Indeed not trivial, so I wrote ... And only willing to carry.

I was ready to carry.

I practice in two places, and it was just. It is true that carried less and was easier to follow, but not worth dealing. In addition it was always under pressure, stole a huge.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2011 2:42:05 AM(UTC)
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יענקל'ה it's not about the money, we're actually willing to spend enough money to itmino for us all, despite the huge experience.

I just want to go out in peace

Basically I was told not to plant more than three times, if occasionally perverse path and filling water way in all sorts of places.

But again I don't really understand how the whole thing works.

To carry 12 liters of water.. Shame on your back, knees and I want to enjoy this trip. The army finished.

I went to oikishbil and saw a sea of places to plant them, but people tell me that bthels has all 2 landfills that lies between Sapphire to the crater.

Can someone help to summarize it? Incidentally a walking pace of 12 to 14 miles a day.

Departing from the South to the North and intend to carry over 15 pounds.

Thank you very much.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2011 5:02:19 AM(UTC)
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Ziv, between Ramon crater Sapphire no longer need burying.

At your own pace, which is very slow) need the landfills from over ilachn, tsihor night-Paran, gap, Farmville, point,.

The rest is available for taxis or variance explained somewhere.

Why are you so slow pace exponents? If it's a matter of fitness, that is not the point. The first day from South to North is one of the keys for a cumulative increase of 1000 m without a great gym not survive him.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2011 8:31:24 AM(UTC)
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The Negev hiking pace is determined by access to water sources. You will see only a rate of 12-14 km per day is feasible in certain places and is also quite slow. And ikishbil gives you all the places inaccessible to ordinary car or 4 x 4, designed according to the name list. The three landfills is just so some cases carrying water for two days and it's not the case.  Even if someone recommended a shovel to join another round of atmanot take some time to find the huge.

Have fun!

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 2, 2011 10:05:08 PM(UTC)
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Note what "burying". Some drivers just place your bottle behind which, in the corner of the parking lot next to the path.
Water source: the city of Arad.
Followed by: rattlesnake bar. Or put in private, or water in the internal factory immediately, didn't close the road but close to Echis recommended first tour in private from Arad (then you might as well set yourself). Not always open. The location where the madaf caching run.
The next station is how Phoenix, or burying or reach the junction, 4 km West watching, then in 2 km to take water from the gate, or book a taxi/with the pizza from Dimona.
Burial: up Scorpions, getting a private first-class road the road to Oron/irkeam eye, if caching in private in Echis, 15 min drive. It may be filled with water from the nearby military base but not always-it, don't trust it. The set after the garage or similar channel, including bonuses. Now cold and exposed to stay there, so treat yourself with caching. Beware of bidoas.
Water source must be next to refilling: Auron, near ein irkeam. Or take water for a day and a half including accommodations (12 liters), or rely on a hagvim purification before the decrease
(Not sure), or take a 6 litre and plant section. Select when you want.
Water source must be optional, the price for Greece: SDE Boker/and maybe cars garage or fact reserve keeper, not as usual, be nice and let you fully tap inside.
To adjust eye shaviv and about farm splitting and 2 hours walk to any point you can reach the top, and full lab reservation again, the guard let Darren to stay on time to the farm, depending on the distance.
Water source which don't really flow, you can rely on the water without purifying: ein shaviv. Has Ms. unmarked on maps at the bottom of a cliff after, look off, I don't know what he's doing right now. Not to trust him. Water source can certainly clear: on the farm. Luckily, there are 4 x 4 travel to give you water and save you the trip to the spring.
The following water filling point Walla brings about stress have the fuel and rumors of a writer in the community. Also in water field.
The gap to the tone set here would take me well water for a day and a half-that's a lot. Later, or deviate to Khan, wells or rely on water at ein saronim, constant flow can be cleansing without a problem. (If it was good for the Romans and sprouts, it's good for me, too).
The regular landfills that can count them: Ms. Conn,
Water: Moshav Sapir
And permanent caching near Paran.
Away to music communities etc, consider caching the mlachn or taxi, if the trip to cost more, or contact shovel as parents.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 3, 2011 2:14:51 AM(UTC)
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Well done on the detail contact-too bad we can't save certain messages under "selected messages" or something like that.
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#14 Posted : Saturday, February 5, 2011 5:39:21 PM(UTC)
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There is an option to sticky thread? Ma, can pick up all atmanot together?
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#15 Posted : Sunday, February 6, 2011 7:29:53 PM(UTC)
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Only, I have two questions and that's it.

We bought the book of Jacob und rshdom in most places until Arad no water way and to plant.

Do you really need everywhere and if it's really our complex. And where the most important plant-

Is it possible to get a call of a possible bomber believed to have consulted with him?

Thank you:]

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#16 Posted : Sunday, February 6, 2011 7:52:05 PM(UTC)
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#17 Posted : Sunday, February 6, 2011 9:04:09 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = ziv123]

Only, I have two questions and that's it.

We bought the book of Jacob und rshdom in most places until Arad no water way and to plant.

Do you really need everywhere and if it's really our complex. And where the most important plant-

Is it possible to get a call of a possible bomber believed to have consulted with him?

Thank you:]

Thank you for purchasing the book. Conference oikishbil as amlatno, and also recommend you guy and you have a list of huge and shovel. According to your own pace to know some landfills. Consider all jumped by water plant is a lot of money sometimes approximately NIS 500. which do you prefer: rotating landfills or bounces of the water.

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#18 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 2:10:21 AM(UTC)
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Starting 10 March from the South to the North.

So we spoke to people's water bouncing really expensive and unnecessary in my opinion.

In total should fix the days and to make the atmanot?

Excellent book =] thanks

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#19 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 2:42:19 PM(UTC)
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Do the right for days and the atmanot.
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#20 Posted : Monday, February 7, 2011 4:45:39 PM(UTC)
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Yankele.

Let's make things, write us your Division and try to advise you on the atmanot

Another question: How do you get to Eilat by bus or car (with accompanying family for instance)?

If you, on the way to plant yourself in some points.

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