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רוני  
#21 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 7:34:45 AM(UTC)
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Another thing: it seems that a significant part of the trip participants plan to arrive by public transport and are planning to start on Friday morning. As I mentioned the first bus to Ein Gedi from Jerusalem is at 8 in the morning and he came at 9:15 a.m. Ma plans to start at 7:00 a.m., but Greece that he has to wait for some cars to come, my guess there's a good chance to I'm ordering you!, so that you may begin a little later. Anyway it seems to me more headache to take the last bus to Ein Gedi, to start all Kibbutz Ein Gedi in the dark, just to save a couple of hours.    I think it was Greece rising straight from Ein Gedi, those of us they drop bdoy and can close those two hours in less than half a day's walk. The original Kibbutz Ein Gedi is 500 or Suki mountain 600 feet at least, with a backpack full of water. With 11 people, most likely at least one or two "spill", and have a relaxing time, so four hours only, and make your trip more fun.
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#22 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 7:55:29 AM(UTC)
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Here is my design for the trip, tell me if it's okay with you: available
I take the bus to Ein Gedi at 9, and begins its ascent up Zuria hours. Even if I'm not sticky you during the day I move on and meet you at night. It leaves us all in together Friday night.
On Saturday each decide for themselves if they want to make the shorter route of Ma and finish earlier or maybe a longer route and take advantage of all.   Looks to me like I want to continue until Saturday and targeted up to road or the trail we did to Masada (metzada to coach at a quarter to seven in the evening on Saturday). We're familiar with this trail from the trip and know you can do it easily if the twilight zone.
Anyway, I think the second day will be significantly easier from day one, that would be a very serious challenge to many people, and may also cause a desire to shorten the track.

Ma, it's okay with you that I plan on divergence?
Is there anyone else who wants to join me for a late start in Ein Gedi?
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#23 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 10:50:01 AM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Ronnie] first WARHAM, I'm not sure how tall your system using the software. From what I saw of the maps (excellent!) attached, there is a bug in calculating the height that there is negative, i.e. elevations below sea level. If you look on the first day will see the starting point, Ein Gedi, and the minimum height is zero, while Gedi is actually below the level minus 300. It may add three hundred meters and (if and from below sea level) to the amount of climbing.


By the way my name is Ellie, of course this WARHAM nickname sleep.

I checked and indeed you're right about the heights, tonight I see with what software was not considering a negative height (or was not visible)

About the Monday I also prefer a long day to exploit all day for a walk so you can split up. The problem with what you said about continue to Masada is come with car or bus because the vehicle needs to go.

If you are planning to get back on the bus, so of course it's better for me to go to Masada and down the street to catch the bus.

What is rather agreement on night parking is regulated as noted is a natual and unpleasant to hide from inspectors (99% are)


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#24 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 1:32:51 PM(UTC)
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To-night's sleep overnight parking within walking plan and therefore I wrote about not parking accommodations, overnight is possible that Eli said in his enclosed scheme is only 23 miles from Ein Gedi, doubt we.

A couple of weeks ago-I checked with field school Ein Gedi-eye friend, after recent rainfall seems to be there, water will be tested today. For purge if necessary.

I checked again about Jerusalem bus at 7 a.m., arrives at the Ein Gedi. There are two lines from Jerusalem, one out of seven and the other eight. About bus on Thursday evening-out from Jerusalem eight-thirty comes to Ein Gedi.

About split-when we go out in a group I in principle against splitting, while those who have to take care of transport diverge on their own but still leave the Group and takes part in the מ"החוויה fork group. Intuitively I feel a mess of split, without references only feel stomach pains.

It's hard to organize a trip to suit all types of walking in terms of fitness and ability. Need to get under the low and high.

I leave it for discussion here. Meanwhile, to find out. As of the moment there are 4 beginning on Thursday.

About b-Ein Gedi wrote explicitly is by the swimming pool in the grouping, arranged in advance, don't have to.

About a-long write what you prefer, the minimum is planning to finish the walk runs about three and then move to Ein Gedi, to reach the vehicles then move to the Center, no Center before 7 p.m. All later finish means to get home late.

Those who prefer to go as I plan

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#25 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 2:39:41 PM(UTC)
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Ma, where the schedule of bind?   I tested a third time at the bind and the first bus from Jerusalem is eight in nine (not that it matters anyway, because Dallas couldn't get in time for the seven). Bus schedule
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#26 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 2:55:05 PM(UTC)
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-Garage agree with Ma. To get on the first day to night parking lot have to do with 1200 m climb day tear including (assuming you actually have a problem with your software, me just check a few prototypes have included which starts at sea level above Ein Gedi if it still the 300 mile). It would be a serious tear also in great shape (and most don't), and the parking lot at night in the twilight. I'm personally not interested in ripping. Nothing to do in this area insufficient campgrounds, and we have to compromise in an area which also gives us the advantage of flexibility.
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#27 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 3:23:10 PM(UTC)
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"It's hard to organize a trip to suit all types of walking in terms of fitness and ability. Need to get under the low and high.
Agree with you 100% available. The problem is that once you begin your trip at Ein Gedi, have pretty high standard straight because the cliff is a minimum of 600 meters, not to mention the ups and downs then it at least three times the rise we had to tour Masada. Actually I think you underestimate the difficulty of the first day. This is a particularly difficult day, I might even prove too difficult for some people, and we can discover only.

The fork, it seemed essential. Also because some people want to finish early and some want to finish later. Partly because people can fit different distances. And because some of us depend on public transportation and some are with cars.
I think before my plan, most Fridays and Saturdays go together and stay together. But there's no reason if you want available to finish early, you need to extend your trip for me, and vice versa. We're all big boys, with quite a bit of experience in walking, and we know for ourselves what suits us.
I think here in two groups and smaller homogeneous priority than group one, patchy tends to dissipate.


Anyway (and respond to) in case you get to Masada, a bus there went to Masada in seven, and later to Ein Gedi and Jerusalem, so that you can pick up the car at the Ein Gedi nature reserve, keep, even if you do not want to hitchhike. If you want to end sooner there are several dirt roads approaching route 90, where can I go to get hitched/Ein Gedi. Doesn't seem a problem to hitch on Saturday afternoon.
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#28 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 3:29:01 PM(UTC)
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Don't stand in my way to fork only need to worry about campus orientation.

Subtotal-Friday as we go up overnight. Saturday we made a decision as if about to split those who want to continue.

About the bus link in the previous post, everyone checks in temporary responsibility and getting offers to call information and bind to rely 100 percent on this site.

It is important to remember to inform me on the phone about arrival on Thursday evening to determine how many people are sleeping on the lawn or pool Friday morning.

Alex-let me know about getting time on Friday early morning or Thursday night to arrange entry into the grouping.

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#29 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 3:53:47 PM(UTC)
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That explains the difference. According to the website of Egged line 444 from Jerusalem stops at Ein Gedi, but not down passengers who boarded the bus. So, I will be available at 9:15, hoping to infect you. -Managing me.
(Now all that's left is to go buy biscuits I think this time I'll try Falafel, biscuits to variety.)
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#30 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2011 10:01:52 PM(UTC)
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Great plans and nadrot. Since I don't know when will everybody on Friday morning and when connect to us, those who start in the morning to go "slow" doesn't want to walk distances on Friday.  Track set for this day to end where it ends on a friend. On Saturday decide intermittently, weather, the attack on the reactor in Libya and Japan and how and who is going where. Be enough options in the area of Nahal mishmar, even further down the tze'elim leaf. Don't see a chance to return to Ein Gedi on Saturday.

I think everything is decided in the field during the trip, a group of 11 people a bit difficult to maneuver and propel a extreme btiol. Most importantly I don't have answers yet-and the water situation in about a friend.

Meteo-everyone can follow the site.

It's important for me to know who comes, cars and buses.

I and Meyer on Thursday, with a foot טל39 f Alex with 2 or 3 on Thursday evening or Friday morning. IE 7 or 8 come by car and 4 or 3.

Who came in buses and when?

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#31 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:53:07 AM(UTC)
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To me, only one comment. From what I understand from first day available from top Zuria (11021 trail) and (!) and later Mirsky Essenes. I can think of some benefits to her up and down and Essenes Zuria including savings may pay to stream, and better ability to split the two teams join in her time, among other things, that more likely will receive Zuria cellular, which Mirsky's to Strack first, in Wadi. A leaf Suki begins at the gate of Kibbutz Ein Gedi, easier to reach by bus, I think. (SUREAL.?)

MA (important!). I just caught the first acute wrote up Zuria-11020 trail (he raises Essenes) but raises Zuria is 11021. It is critical to determine what final upward we go on Friday so we could meet.
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#32 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:03:43 PM(UTC)
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I think it is better to get up Suki.

Also reduced admission to Ein Gedi (as far as I know she will be dedicated Thursday night) and the up itself more comfortable, if I remember them both.

I'm sure you get most resolutions already, like where to sleep, is split or not split etc. I think also the weather decides where a lot of things.

We have the General route and win!

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#33 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:03:48 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = זמי1]

A couple of weeks ago-I checked with field school Ein Gedi-eye friend, after recent rainfall seems to be there, water will be tested today. For purge if necessary.

Please note that no eye on Member accessible. Back Member obviously has water, but generally they're pretty dirty band of mlshlshot ions in March worried.

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#34 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:37:11 PM(UTC)
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On Friday, is up there, whoever goes on Thursday doing a ring route Ein Gedi and the chest through the reserve.

With the water-drinking friend, stale conservative eye water but it's irrelevant because I may not get there on Friday.

Safest I found caches can store our water level connect wherever there is access to an SUV. Let me know during the day about price.

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#35 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:50:11 PM(UTC)
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I'm probably comes with SUREAL on Thursday night.
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#36 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:30:04 PM(UTC)
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Ma, I don't participate in planting. Also for stinginess, and because I like to depend on myself as much as possible, especially when I started.   Ein Gedi start with six liters should be enough.
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#37 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:41:48 PM(UTC)
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The metmin asking $ 900 he leaves Ein Gedi and reach the surface and back is quite a bit of time we-10 without as much you want to spend at most?

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#38 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:15:59 PM(UTC)
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90 per person sounds pretty much. I think I prefer to carry water for a day and a half (until reaching eye guard, or shorter day finale).

6 pints should do it. Be fun up Suki:-)

What else?
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#39 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:35:13 PM(UTC)
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I'm hesitant about concerning the 6 liter.
Hot desert, and have water for preparing food and brushing teeth.
I am willing to pay if all through, but if you ask me, it should be 50 weight per person.

I intend to get with bus on Friday morning. Egged website says the first bus leaves at 8 and 9:15 b. Oded 40624.7334143519
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#40 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:33:23 PM(UTC)
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90, too much.

The weather is supposed to be not too hot, and it reduces the consumption of the precious liquid so

The look of things at noon will be already near (to those who choose this option), where we lay on the asphalt and ask for mercy, perhaps even get drivers.

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