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DrunkPuppy  
#1 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 3:32:25 AM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,

I go to in the Israel National Trail (INT) in mid-March from South to North. I'd love to have your opinion on the following list. I mention only the expensive equipment (rather than the simple equipment and easy-to-get, say ...). I want to spend around 2,000 shekels over the details.
What is highlighted *. means to buy or gift.

Deuter Aircontact Pro 70 backpack + 15
Asolo PowerMatic boots
* Bridgedale Endurance Trail socks.
Chaco Sandals-Z/1 or Crocs?
* Walking sticks-recommendations?
The Ferrino. Nadir 580
Mattress-platib 12 mm. deciding whether to buy a mattress from developing.
The MSR Whisperlite Internationale nziniia.
A takedown-Lowe Alpine Atacama
* A funkier head band-Israel-specific recommendations? Short or long?
Wide brimmed hat just
* Warm clothing-layered recommended? What should I buy?
Petzl Tactikka XP head torch
-Bag Source 3
* Water Aqua Mira

Thank you
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Yagil  
#2 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 5:49:26 AM(UTC)
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Casing: heavy (weight 3.3 kg by the manufacturer). If you feel comfortable, then he wouldn't be deterred than heavy bag-comfortable carrying case equipment not easy. If you have lighter you comfortable, consider them.
Shoes: there are several models in the series. What are you talking about?
Sandals: neither. Take slippers easy. And certainly not like Chaco-weigh shoes (880 grams per measure 44). The crocs weighing 270 grams of 44 learning, which is fine, but if you need it just hangs at night (and that will have them) can rely on flip-flops and cheap.

Walking sticks: what's your budget?
Sleeping bag: seems to me to be a good choice. Liver and pushing Israel for insulation on cold nights. There are alternatives a priority for similar prices-for example (just as an example): http://shop.lametayel.co...in/lametayel/T0AZH0.html
Mattress: it depends mostly on your back broadcast transmissions and the depth of your pockets.
In nzinia: fine, though I think a country can certainly rely on gas burner or use chalia, not compulsory to buy expensive nzinia.
Pants, shirt, etc.-There are lots of models. I prefer longer because it protects better.
I think for the General questions about equipment should consult the introduction I wrote for Israel:
Http://gallery.myff.org/gallery/524444/Introduction+to+the+Shvil+June+2009.pdf
Flashlight head.
Hydration bag-
Water-purification tablets, but hating are OK too.
Anyway back to my recommendation, carefully read the introduction then come back here; It sounds like you're still groping a bit in the dark.
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#3 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 2:47:30 PM(UTC)
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Oversized backpack
DrunkPuppy  
#4 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 3:05:06 PM(UTC)
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So you are correct, in CE yagil I kind of groping in the dark.
I call pretty set here and trying to learn how to get ready.
Unfortunately my Pocket nor in deep space and therefore have to make do with existing equipment and to buy the Smartphone still exists.
If you think I can't cross my path with existing equipment (e.g. bag?) would love it if you tell me. Beyond that to deal with.
The pod-like, comfortable, though.
Asolo Power Matic 400 shoes GV Wide
The crocs sandals, it's cheaper than buying slippers
Walking sticks-I appreciate that budget is approximately $ 600 per couple. When I looked on the Internet I found a lot of explanations about the idea behind the sticks and the different types. I couldn't find specific recommendations on sticks, ditto in stores. How do you know that quality stick??
Sleeping bag-the bag. I won't survive?

Thanks again
זמי1  
#5 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 4:07:39 PM(UTC)
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600 foot rods, buy cheap and save them.

Mattress-15 or 18 mm.

Holatn funkier head band-Israel-walking, barrel sleeve. Hiking-a thermal shirt.

Hot thermal shirt clothing, brass easy to involve storm coat deck just a windscreen. Thermal tights.

Tubular_speaker  
#6 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 4:11:03 PM(UTC)
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Walking sticks-I would recommend Masters, sherpa model.
It's been a long and still as new. Not very easy on 290 g per stick.
In contrast to leki I've ever used (model eagle) have let applications (bent).
The fire can be found for less than $ 400, the eagle as well.
DrunkPuppy  
#7 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 4:23:03 PM(UTC)
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Then I see that there are no specific recommendations about warm clothing-comfortable and layers specified. Thank you
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Yagil  
#8 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 4:27:10 PM(UTC)
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About the bag, take warm clothes especially for bed, plus a balaclava and socks dry for * only *. It will cost you some rank and help you handle.
The old Oslo are great shoes for those suits him, and description are supposed to fit very much for Israel. Ditto socks.
If the crocs, take them (unlike the chakras, which if not go with them in any way, there is no way to justify this excess weight).
Walking sticks-excessive price system, greatly exaggerated. If set, you can improvise walking sticks, wooden broomstick affordable price includes $ 25-50, see here: http://shvilisrael.myfastforum.org/about18.html
And good homemade easy non can be found more cheaply. The compressor, the stick of masters (I have one, I have some comments on it but is certainly a good stick) 390 per couple at this link:
Http://www.walkin.co.il/lego_tree.php?instance_id=18&actions=show&id=2030
The only downside is if you over 1.9 m, which will probably be short lever too much for you, then you will need a slightly more expensive version.

And, see the introduction there more detailed discussion on some topics.
.o.k  
#9 Posted : Monday, February 21, 2011 5:38:05 PM(UTC)
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I have a km. It's not the heat, but I can definitely handle. Made with ת'שביל just in time and the planned direction. Just mention that I slept in a tent just, which in my opinion has improved greatly, and ת'הגנה.

The doll of this weight bag. There are lighter and heat keys.

Regardless, a balaclava was one of the things I've enjoyed taking the path.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:29:53 AM(UTC)
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In nzinia not see it pointless. If you take a hotplate based built with coolant screw and adapter kiviaa head or wannabe. Approximately $ 200, dated pretty cheap gas a hotplate but has a certain weight penalty, estimates that all consider as 500 grams.
Of course you can do for yourself and save aleia the headache. And the money. And the extra weight.
Walking sticks-canes are very simple, with carbon, who stood for. They currently must be around 75. Of course, if you don't keep them, they will be destroyed. Depending on how you are with your equipment.
Backpack and bag. The money saved on a hotplate and clubs you can buy better sleeping bag. Remember that this is an important and worthwhile to invest in a good bag, the return you get on cold nights.
Mattress-the best choice for foam mattress is a mattress soaked close 2 cm of platib. The discount, or bouncing with thin 7 mm sponge they put down.
Mosquito-highly recommended, there are plenty of them out there now. Also rest and accommodation against flies. Again, good mattress and tent periphery and also prevents some.
Rain curtain in case you fall on Lila no fun or very much. Walking sticks used as poles. Take 4 pegs and thin, strong thread (or use stones in place)
Read the article I wrote (among others, inspired by yagil. In oikishbil):http://shvil.wikia.com/wiki/%D7%9C%D7%98%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9C_%D7%A0%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%9F40596.9399189815 tzurlis
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:35:32 AM(UTC)
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First of all, thanks for the response, create
Like I wrote up there existing equipment already purchased or received a gift (e.g. bnziniia).
I wanted to get opinions about (hopefully not to buy additional equipment) and the equipment you should buy.

Do you think is more likely to be nziniia (even though it already exists)?
Build ppsystov. I couldn't find a good way to let the pot. Have any ideas?
Walking sticks and rain sheet-thanks.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:06:48 PM(UTC)
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Put the pot-a piece of network hardware store pens and format it as a cylinder around the pot and it stands. זמי1 40597.4633796296
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#13 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:41:45 AM(UTC)
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My comments.

Walking sticks as cheap will do the job. Shock absorber optional, but once you get used to it it's nice (in my opinion).

Ndefot shirts-w with costly brands. If you happened to e, so the name of tefron Ltd. sold relatively cheap ndefot shirts (and the Earth!).

The unnecessary nisnia.

A-if you are on a budget, take 1-1.5 cm. platib do the trick (not that you take a tent – if not then there is a danger of the inflatable mattress's one punctures).

Filter Aqua Mira relative. If you set a reasonable amount, you will not need almost clear, and gauze pad emergencies for filtering and purifying pills will do the job for less money and weight.
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#14 Posted : Thursday, February 24, 2011 7:33:53 AM(UTC)
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Today nearly all walking poles come with bash includes rods at $ 200.
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#15 Posted : Friday, February 25, 2011 10:30:30 PM(UTC)
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Read the article There are quite a few answers to your questions, and you may make certain changes in thinking about the hatiol equipment.
About ppsystov, YouTube has several dozen movies. Search and indshild Stube. There are also quite a few sites dedicated to it. Run a search here on the Forum.
In my opinion, your biggest questions should be about is: If you feel cold or not. If so, you will need a tent. Professional rating of a sleeping bag talking about person wearing clothes, a mattress inside a tent. Not stay exposed. I'd rather not carrying around with the tent but with manifold to be used as an emergency shelter, and mostly contained. That means the sleep sack should be warm, safe, wise and dew is very heavy.
In another case can sleep with clothes etc. as yagil said.
Anyway, I first focused on the core equipment: backpack, shoes, cooking stove, and then takes on the rest.
Look, we're talking quite a bit of weight. There's a reason. Insert this message and understand the concept. Http://www.hike.co.il/posts/t64210% d7% 9b% d7% 95% d7% 90% d7% 91% d7% 9c% d7% 99% d7% 94% d7% 9b% d7% 9c . 40599.9687152778 tzurlis
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#16 Posted : Saturday, February 26, 2011 5:44:52 PM(UTC)
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I read your article and the book path of yagil Henkin.
I'm a total close to the basic equipment, very happy with the bag, shoes. The weak points are indeed and the bag.

About a birthday present ahead of year. I don't want to spend money on extra pounds. Because I don't feel especially cold I get warm clothing and figure it out.

The bnziniia is a gift from a family a few months too good. I don't think anyone would say no to bnziniia
Made with ppsystov. I tried using the network to build pens which any device to hold the pot it's working and it's convenient to carry in a bag NET.
Currently we have both options or nziniia or gseet peanut with Kovea Fire Man (if I'm not mistaken).

I add a question: is it better to take Soft Shell or brass + Hard Shell?

And beyond that, there's the equipment never used it so I ask a lot of questions. I completely understand the need to reduce weight and thus the pain.

And ... Create, thanks! 40600.7929282407 DrunkPuppy
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#17 Posted : Sunday, February 27, 2011 10:23:18 AM(UTC)
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About windscreen to zenstove.net site chaleia have very good ideas, here's what I made
Https://picasaweb.google.com/leibman2/UpzuAG#5335756852985330338
Https://picasaweb.google.com/leibman2/UpzuAG#5335756851202796786
A finely drilled holes sped past Tin and three ventilation screws holding the tin pot
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#18 Posted : Monday, February 28, 2011 3:57:40 PM(UTC)
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Tight body walk t-shirt (Nike), soft quality of rain jacket/wind seal – and you have a good system for Lila in cold weather.
If you want a good fleece, I might add, in fact there is really necessary. Might be worth adding it in cooler areas.
I think it is much more convenient than a hotplate bnzinia in terms of operation, speed, preventing odors also side with food and a backpack.
For a hotplate can take 190 g piercing tank adapter as mentioned above, and save a few dollars on gas tanks, nice
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 1, 2011 11:00:24 AM(UTC)
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Whether a slicker, so not worth buying only brass? The soft mountains of my understanding should be a combination of brass and trophy.

Cool idea to buy an adapter, to be carried out today.
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#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 1, 2011 1:29:08 PM(UTC)
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Storm coat deck suitable for walking and for protection from wind and rain, warm fleece you walking and rain protector. In terms of country, t-shirt, shirt, thermal storm covering all conditions for entering Israel, Shek.

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