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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:12:00 PM(UTC)
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Hello

Last Friday I went to explore the Golan from North to South, with the aim to do.
Furthermore the area is amazing right now (we recommend to everyone), and the trip was largely successful, as early as the end of the first day I found out that the area of Achilles tendon above his right leg heel began to rub and Peel. In the next two days trying to treat a wound in different ways that means to me that I was too meager, especially iodine, gauze pads, experimental zone in toilet paper.
Nothing helped the wound packed and at the end of the third day already painful levels get to enjoy the trip. On the fourth day began infecting and pressing the hike, which requires me to discontinue the excursion (optional for a day of rest was not relevant because the freedom that I got from the army was limited and would not end all day that walks for without).
Cite all used it equipment, including shoes, although not the most professional, served me many times in the past few months the tours including a night or two and never happened to me something like that (including the navigation problem was usually blisters and skin kilophi this sort of thing).

As one wished to explore the entire Bill in the future, Israel is worried that already after 4 days tour "oshbteti". I would like to receive advice on how to avoid such things in the future and how the healing of wounds in the field (if it happened) to heal as soon as possible (if possible also for character progression). Would love to hear from people who either visit them things like what were doing and whether they were able to continue the trip as planned.

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:29:04 PM(UTC)
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I think your shoes don't match. Have you made sure of at least one big foot? Adjusting shoe foot is vital, so is correct sometimes Liner Socks helps.

Toilet paper really doesn't help the problem worse because it creates pressure around the "dressing".

"Prevention" is the name of the game. To heal a wound while walking more difficult.

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#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:44:55 PM(UTC)
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There is no doubt that the shoes do not fit 100%, but in the opposite direction. I think they're two sizes above my size. Maybe I tied them? Me always taught to the more closely related, maybe that's what caused the problem?
And what is the solution that you recommend it if the injury has already occurred? Just rest one day and rub the ointment?
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:24:40 PM(UTC)
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From the wound indicates by that you have a problem with the shoe and necessarily because. Strong binding of the shoe can be a reason.

If the wound gets worse should foot rest, sometimes more than one day.  Check carefully what the exact source of injury and learn to avoid it in the future. Towards Israel trail date complete information on the type of injury. This pastes cured without treatment you will need a lot of ointment for Israel.

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#5 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 6:48:09 PM(UTC)
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Not linked closely, linked to herb and catches.

About the shoe when you say that you think is great in two sizes-check.

About the injury-sounds like an infection, get to a doctor. Maybe ointment. Meanwhile, fan, place, put oririt bandage if needed. Don't play with filthy pants injury.

Reasons weight is too big, too quick, too intense to make unnecessary movements of the foot in the shoe, sock, socks replaced island. In-shoe internal padding sometimes play a little piece of cloth from her arm might have come off and starts rubbing the skin especially walk over and Achilles ' problem. Maybe the shoe leather and striking curves inward.

Sometimes strenuous walk with big ups and downs in weight created excessive Trowelling.

How long since you went hiking were strained until the Golan? How does it go? Those socks do you wear? Whether you go with a heavier backpack trips. Use walking poles?

You don't have to panic, all is there, we've all suffered and we have learned it is better to suffer now "and" learn to read Bill Israel.

Some shoe Hope not.

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#6 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:06:56 PM(UTC)
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A guess is that the problem really about shoe too large/fits To have your leg when freedom of movement inside the shoe then the constant friction causes the injury worsens with time. Two options-try a new shoe, or try wearing multiple socks together. Thick wool sock liner and thin plastic (instead of buying thin stockings for women, it's usually cheaper) inside helps prevent chafing, blisters etc, and maybe even in your case, try more than one pair of cotton socks with liner. This is a really good way of working the shoes too, besides your leg warmed up a bit and need more socks.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:32:15 PM(UTC)
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Adekunle.

This trip was a step, considering what I've done in the past as a weight and intensity talismans (getting the trip was Neve Ativ promotion to the Mount Hermon, and immediately later targeted reduction Nimrod).
Cloth shoe play but not seriously. No military shoes, nothing to worry about, but they are also not the top just Just purchased a Coleman-made shoe.
Probably what I'll try next time to be serious improvement of socks. Maybe try the-liner thing that everyone is talking about. In addition to put more emphasis on weight and take things easy. I weighs about 65 pounds and went with a backpack of 18 kg, that's probably a little too much and spoiling the fun. Walking poles are somehow not normal at all-is it really a good idea? It is not the overall specific sections?

And already in injury recovery and is treated with the utmost dedication, thanks for your concern:)40624.6893634259 guyishai
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2011 8:36:03 PM(UTC)
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18 kg too heavy, it's part of the thing. For the Hermon not difficult but the descent more difficult. Walking surely helps. Check your shoes, socks, not cotton, and if necessary to use eyeliner. Physical fitness and proper preparation is key that prevents many problems including blisters, sores, etc.
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:57:41 PM(UTC)
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The same problem was my daughter I think it's because the descent from Mount Hermon, along with shoe mismatch (binding or hand or foot shape). It moved with ease even without sweat, but my daughter did a similar wound as described here.

Recommend for those descending from Mount Hermon ishasha certainly slow if the walking issue or a new shoe for him.

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#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:36:09 PM(UTC)
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Coleman-definitely not shoe shoe walks. -Excessive weight.

As always-serious hiking with Backpack have to prepare.

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#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 2:36:28 PM(UTC)
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In addition, if you start to feel like rubbing immediately stop. If the shricha doesn't solve the problems, you can line the area part of sanitary napkin, it prevents rubbing good. The bandage holding instead of using glue film. Another option I usually just stick around-foot medical glue (oikoplest, I'm not using the original loikoplest that leaves marks on the socks, but on sports tape of 3 m).
And liners. Of course.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2011 3:16:33 PM(UTC)
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I believe the long-term solution and prevention, exercise and go with the cartridge before strengthens the foot and hard skin of the foot and thereby reduces and prevents blisters and blisters, I for one rarely "win" these (touch wood). Another method I haven't tried it on skin weeks before alochoal, the alcohol dries the skin.

Walking-solutions-sock liner, bandages, ointments exist to be applied at night before, just before the exit, that heaven TALC and helps foot ventilation, every hour an hour and a half walking, changing socks?

Most importantly-as-RW yagil said. immediately stop, pioneer, check, put long plaster all over the place felt to prevent.

The phenomenon that appears here is really strong stimulation of the area above the Achilles tendon which is not mechanical stimulation Al blisters. Sometimes you have to check and to assume a special songs hit the heel up right Muse cm release rather than irritated.

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#13 Posted : Saturday, March 26, 2011 2:56:19 PM(UTC)
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1. Ronnie yagil, Ma said.
2. you can't go seriously second-rate equipment doesn't fit (you can go seriously with classified equipment, it just b a matter of weight and comfort). A long walk with a backpack is a global effort for the body and you are high load over time. It's not a walk in the neighborhood, even 2000 run and not even a weekend trip.

That means sometimes you have to invest in equipment. Traveler's shoe is one of the most important issues in and devote her attention, also as regards the acquisition and the relative share.

No problem to travel with an easy shoe happening: hiker starts there is no obligation to purchase a shoe firm and costs. In your case, I recommend to check morale "," shoes can be obtained at an affordable alitel ב"נעלי" in Basra if I remember correctly booked 350 NIS region are not particularly strong but do Israel and trail ends, apparently, shortly thereafter. If not, sport shoe/foot of diadora or similar will do the trick too, in my estimation for 400-500 km, and then fall apart.

On the other hand, it's investment in equipment. If you see yourself as a traveler, if you buy a bad shoe twice reaches good shoe price. And certainly is worth investing in a good shoe. If you have the money-here are talking about a very high price, even with discounts.

In addition there is also an option for second-hand shoe, if it fits you. If you are in this way, contact Ruben at the devil "kibbutz Givat Haim. There also get professional advice on the suitability and the beveled surface guide + test pods with the weight on your back, which is not common in many stores.

If you are stuck and have no money at all — even military shoe will do the trick, as long as it fits you well and softened. It also says to brush a lot. True, this is not corporal rather than this, but it works.

3. liner: I see a sock, of any kind, military, travel and sightseeing. The sores appear after several intense days. Once a hotspot or a burning feeling, stop and check.

You don't have to buy Leiner in cost. All thin synthetic sock you buy at the supermarket, 3 pairs in 2010, will do the trick, while not cotton! It is very important. Maybe they will go fast, but at this price.

4. cotton sock socks favors is always expensive. On the other hand, don't have to buy in shop "stocking foot" professional high price. They may make life easier but it's function. There are several models of military socks that contain more wool, designed similar to hiking socks. In hamashbir lazarchan.

All good stocking General while not cotton! Don't touch the cotton socks.

5. with regard to the injury: immediate treatment-first professional credentials, yagil and Ronnie. There is even a situation where travellers wrap all due up in the dakteip (similar to explosive film, only less massive). Also I recommend using 3 m products sport or, Alternatively, if you are in the clinic or hospital they have medical tape, semi-transparent, also a result of 3. ("If you asked most often receive little roll nurse, if she's nice).

The cause is a great shoe and mechanical friction is difficult. After solution treatment and rest, is changing.

In terms of treatment: polidin, disinfection, dressing gauze pad held a plaster. The bandage wraps all gauze and hold her in place.
Fed the idea hagiini. Another possibility is wide plaster (in pharmacy), a width of 10 cm and is lined in the Middle, I lasted about 2 m. If watching problems tend to get medical set to 1 m of it, padding their shoulders against the casing and feet injuries.

If contaminated, we recommend disinfection sintomicin eye balm 5% or similar containing high antibiotic component.

If you don't have medication (and sometimes better than them), users in the field: treatment plants. Wound healing and infection:
1. Pink home (Galilee, Carmel, Samaria and Judea). Cook 100 g of leaves and twigs in a gallon of water for half an hour, filter and apply the hot liquid. (Rub it also reduces leg swelling).
2. phagnalon rocks, quite common in most country {but not. ..}. Mash fresh stems and leaves and put on the wound might get infected.
3. tomato leaves Yes, I have regular tomato. Crush the leaves and lay on it.
4. If the wound is not healed: sinfiton. To grind the plant and put on the bandage, or clear and root puree, add a few drops of olive oil and butter.
5. mercurialis is probably the best to relax. Easily share, is the side of the road, etc. Mash the dough and spread over the wound. The effect is fast and amazing.

There are about 30 species of wild plants, but there are limits. The source of all the information: "aurantifolia the complete guide to herbal medicine worldwide. Huge credit to this guy and very hot recommendation for a professional expertise in this book. Worth every second and every weight. Tzurlis 40628.623125
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#14 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 3:51:23 PM(UTC)
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Create a comprehensive explanation, my friend but you killed me with the amgadir names.
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#15 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:20:57 PM(UTC)
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Those who know more, carry less
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#16 Posted : Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:33:00 PM(UTC)
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And those who carry less

Got a good advice from a friend

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#17 Posted : Monday, March 28, 2011 1:57:10 AM(UTC)
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As usual too against the gzmas. The entire Bill, Israel!!! 1000 miles with every black communities. The problem in the Israel National Trail (INT) is, but not water.

The most important thing to try first. Don't run to buy high-end shoe store with blow and go for the next morning.

I'm really in favor of regular sneakers or to hard surface. And create, disintegrated after 500 miles I went with them before and after a character. For about five years I went above the 1000 km.

And treatment advice that has already been posted: the minute they feel tingling, stop and handle. Depending on place and trouble. Sometimes enough to tie and trim stocking (even gibberish and liners) and sometimes a little plaster. When you stop in time. Nothing helps but.

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