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#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:42:54 PM(UTC)
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Hello everyone,
I need help choosing a sleeping bag and a general ל"שימוש.
What does this mean overall use? Sleeping in an area occasionally, especially on Israel (not consecutive trips, maximum a few days in a row), which can also be this winter in cooler regions.

About the mattress, I completely platib enough, my only question is about the recommended thickness (10 mm realized at least borderline, the question is how to get better before it gets heavy and cumbersome unnecessarily) and f about aluminum coating (have not).

About the bag, should be used in addition to me (about 1.80 65 () k) my sister (1.65, quite thin), so if there's anything the branch can suffice in terms of temperatures, it's probably better.

Budget? I have no idea, but given the modest requirements (something that will be available on a trip once in a while), I think there is no reason to rage, so I'd say a few hundred dollars, up to 500 overreact like that, but if that's not feasible, I'd love to hear.

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#2 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:04:44 AM(UTC)
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Hello, welcome to the Forum.

You know the scale of the ranks of the heating sack?

About the mattress, at least in my experience really do not recommend you to invest in expensive mattresses. I think it's better to leave it. Especially if it is used for short trips, especially in the country.
Although this equipment takes up a lot of volume and 99% of the time coupled it to the bag with straps and so he gets beat up left and right.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:11:45 AM(UTC)
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Classic platib-18 mm provides.

About-if you want to travel in winter have good sack at a temperature of 0 degrees. Good bag costs, don't save that no one wants to have a cold, only known as warranty kg best see what.

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#4 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:38:38 AM(UTC)
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Adam, I throw here idea. If you want it can be nice to you, in my opinion.

I traveled with relatively warmer, miles and endured. I sweated and had hard time falling asleep. If you don't get a good night's rest you can leave in the morning.

Now most of the time in country warm at night. On the other hand you're saying you want to travel in cold climates.

How about a km summer, as Ma relative says 0 degrees and perhaps even easier than that. (Do a search on the NET/shops) and to attach if necessary to add another liner fleece a few degrees.
A-liner thing would be, and when you walk in the winter you can put it in a bag. It's like a mummy that sheet.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 3:22:57 PM(UTC)
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Hello again,
Checking further into the bag and couldn't do myself right with various devices.
Read all sorts of stories, I realized it's better to take general k. sells company committed to the new European standard the temperature rating Greece much more reliable in this case.
In general though as I said, the bag isn't going to be "heavy" I'd rather go this way and add more some amount and buy something I can count on several years.
So the question is whether specific models I should check.
I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that the bag rating of about 0 degrees (Amin) should cover me most nights exploring the land of the shbmidat need to add Leiner.
In any case, if I need to buy something with "and in my case will do something that says 0 and is maybe 8, I'd love to hear (it's not like you get a percentage or something ).
Thanks again.
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#6 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:59:41 PM(UTC)
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Travel Forum received recommendation for the Outdoor ' MicroLight (supposed to be that bag).
Think in terms of compactness is answering the question is requirements in terms of temperature how-2 its really irrelevant.
If I assume that it is something like five, it still should be enough even for my sister feel cold more than me?
(And obviously all a matter of finding something that fits both so tied to possible).

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Suddenly I noticed is also quite short (180), this is borderline at best to my height (180)? Adam777 40717.7090856481
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#7 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:31:29 PM(UTC)
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Hey man, I recommend the hot bag or more specified above SANTA CRUZ
A friend has the same (ML) and used also some trail and New Zealand (wore the occasional brass ...) but it is km very easy really warm (relatively). Really cool.

Don't be tempted to recommend 600 Aztec unless you looking for hot nights only. (From experience)

If you're into brands, model called TNF, very similar to WASATCH micro Lite. (He could have also comes in long dimensions).

More about the best height to try, it's important that you get in good to sack most of miles, have TNF worth checking out.

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#8 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 1:36:30 AM(UTC)
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Nothing to fix or close to sleeping bags for outdoor.
About enough to often.
I would recommend sleeping in airports ' they aren't so expensive and European standard
It can solve the issue of cost/quality.
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#9 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 9:34:46 AM(UTC)
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Right, correct (except for part of the reverse).
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#10 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 11:22:37 AM(UTC)
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As far as I know there is also upside down.
Standard cost value to society.
I'd love to be wrong.
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#11 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 5:10:47 PM(UTC)
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Checked by my obvious fix but still has a few dubious things.
The system works like an elephant is 400, which is very low.
The stuffing is duck and goose plume (there is a difference).
I'll check in a few days and try to give a more accurate answer.
But the country most years these bags and pretty good.
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#12 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 6:05:38 PM(UTC)
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Hello and thanks again,
In General, I prefer to pay a bit more and have peace of mind for longer.
I looked for some lavnati companies are considered more reliable brands and found three miles to what I see are some Entry Level to relevant companies and wanted to know if it's worth me to stretch your budget and go that way.
I'm talking about the following:
The North Face Aleutian
Marmot Trestles 30
Mountain Hardwear Pinole 20
First of all, I would like to know if you have specific feedback about the 3 I mentioned.
In General, how much it's worth to add the 200 +-now compared to outdoor, especially in relation to two main points:
-Temperature-unexpected bag to travel abroad for the foreseeable future and should be tended.
I tried to direct to ה0, because it's hot enough for me in most cases and dated assumes that at least in the shcsh am I supposed to handle summer nights.
If my assessment about temperature, I'm happy.
Compact, sister-as I mentioned should be used, said the most important point ... it's compactness, so out of lack of experience in the field--the difference of k +, among those to our bag feels like and PS regarding physical size-what a difference I can see between the bag in compact mode.

Thanks again, man. Adam777 40718.6444097222
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#13 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 6:35:02 PM(UTC)
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Look, in the married.
No match for season kg
The bag I brought here are suitable for winter.
The Israeli summer you vaporize, unable to sleep, where average summer night (and even more than that.)

Do you want to buy one land suitable for a season before, i.e. what I advised, whether outdoor or any company PSIs North '.

Temperatures of 20 degrees Fahrenheit, 0 degrees is u/Kiel for the country, although the way they heat but are also very heavy.
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#14 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:59:25 PM(UTC)
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Did you mean 30 f, 20 's about 7 Celsius, about the weight of matter is.
To our opinion (from experience) you will have the best year. Your sister. But in excess it can buy Leiner.
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#15 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 8:45:15 PM(UTC)
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Among our three specified models it is not a quantum leap, but some steps.
Agree with me about outdoor abroad.
I encourage you to check out Perino's bags, they have standard, inexpensive and weight are reasonable.
Apprentice to old cruisers circles outside the tent and all this year-for example recommendation niitec 300.
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#16 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 1:20:16 AM(UTC)
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Many thanks to everyone.
After more thought on the matter and all the answers I got, I'm definitely leaning toward the outdoor.
But although I found a bag of 0 degrees is indeed mostly redundant and can spare a few degrees to benefit weight and although I may readily mistaken for Silver (), though I'd love to get your opinion on the following models (more are the least painful of all summer I mentioned), especially as far as the difference in price (usually big DNA, especially given the magnitude of the sums involved) should

Basal Lamina 35 Mountain Harwear -actually, I've only seen the Short version and far from the top, but ...

Mountain Hardwear basal Lamina 45 -seems a bit borderline in terms of temperature (5-9).

The North Face Wasatch -seems a bit borderline in terms of temperature (6-11) and a little heavier than haaotador (although I still don't really understand what this difference means. ).

Sigma Micro SB 800 Salewa -you really get the temperature to which it is intended (7 to 11 +?), but I think she meant 7 + to 11 + and it looks a bit more crowded than others.

If you know something more in the direction of ה"מותגים" I'd love to hear.

Sort of, not really seen models of our village for sale (a) a niitec series-500 and 680 and actually wanted to look at the costs.

And in General, I read everything, thanks again for the recommendations and reference and I asked (politely ) a little more patience before I fired you from my final questions

Person. Adam777 40719.0244791667
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#17 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:21:36 AM(UTC)
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Man, I'm working on ricochet.
At least in Jerusalem (where I work) sell the Perino. I believe that other bsnippim as well.
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#18 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:52:05 AM(UTC)
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The oosatz ' can match what you need.
About Salva-better outdoor (same for less money).
Perino has a lot of stores but not sure on the network.
In Perino's site where you can get technical data.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 1:45:25 PM(UTC)
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Ok
The lmina really expensive significantly compared to the outdoor (580 compared to 300 in shallow and quick test), so I get it.
About TNF, I shall consult with the other half you have to pay something about (slightly less heat than haaotador, no?)
And Perino, maybe I will tomorrow Haifa round to check what this is about.
So the last question (actually two) is about.
First of all, should buy and always use as insulation in terms of dirt etc, even at times like this that about the additional heating isn't necessary.
And-liner thing itself, the difference in price to buy the real thing?
Thanks, Adam.
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#20 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:57:41 PM(UTC)
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I don't condone using on-liner thing to mess up the bag.
Just have a very hot night sweat and so you get exactly the opposite.
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