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הלך עברי  
#1 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 1:20:58 PM(UTC)
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 2:05:28 PM(UTC)
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Hey,

When you feel cold, I noticed a very pleasant to sleep in a sleeping bag while the temperature outside is above 7-10 degrees above the COMFORT temperature so that its temperature until you can choose which approach you want and have fun.

The dilemma begins when the temperature is lower.

About access 2 have some reservations.
1. it is good until starting to turn around, the body starts click the sack and approaching the outer layer that is very cold, and uncomfortable.
2. terrible lie outside it uncomfortable to undress and get into the bag and in the morning if the clothes are frozen so unpleasant. (Of course there are all kinds of special like leaving your clothes with you inside the bag, etc.).

The bag has some may isolate the source, like closing shoulder strap and bare part of the face-and egg still cold, I think Sun access solutions are better.

About heat, I tried the warm approach took a pint bottle of prigat, ICETEA (which is relatively thick-walled) and filled it with warm water (not boiling)-bottle handle very well and it is quite pleasant. The empty bottle almost didn't. Keep in mind that holds an hour or two.
Of course, if you want something more serious to take aluminum bottle and put hot water, put the bottle into a sock (not burned) and last longer.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 4:26:40 PM(UTC)
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Walk-in general I take a mile for extreme cold conditions on the path where I go. Then I won't have the integrity of liner, warm or hot water bottle. If you need to take in order for the liner and maybe use more hot clothing I carry in a backpack-liner thing if it's good, add 3-4 degrees, if you need additional heating-no bag.

Are you asking about a specific Bill?

There are many methods to heat up in a bag and not necessarily relating to the equipment but the insulation mat, Greece, tent tent, eating foods like lying, drinking, socks, Tuque

About uncomfortable wearing clothing, boy Oh boy, this Bill or school trip? On the trail there are harsh conditions, then suffer a few minutes and then the body warms the sack as f about cold outfit in the morning, keep it in a bag or suffer a few minutes f.

It is not clear what that source was. kg The bag to insulate and keep body temperature warm no role except to hizzoni, of course, but his chilly isolation move in. How do touch on the outside as you?

To quit something above the bag aren't recommended because all the moisture the body emits a night locked up it can get quiet for a half liter of water remains inside this space and wets the sack.

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:06:26 PM(UTC)
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The way I understand it.
When sleeping with clothing and thermal insulation primarily occurs between the body and the clothing layer and temperature inside the bag remains lower than without clothing, then a body temperature throughout the bag and feel more pleasant to be in a bag
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:47:39 PM(UTC)
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From my experience, a hot meal before bed, laying out sleeping bag a few hours before and let it swell (become filled with air). Of course a mattress and tent.
Hot water like sigg aluminum bottle filled with warm water helps to warm heating. Put the shirt, underwear, socks and pants into a sleeping bag to stay warm at night.
And that's it.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 7:50:04 PM(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:25:06 PM(UTC)
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Can't decide between a or b, because if so I recommend cold access c: Angel.

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#8 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:01:05 PM(UTC)
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Not familiar with this shcsh, please write in English.

Platib 12 mm? Sounds like it's the trigger? I know 15 mm.

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#9 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:43:29 PM(UTC)
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 9:52:50 PM(UTC)
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If you can't host a trail Angel, so will present in his house. Yankale17 40849.7876388889
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, November 2, 2011 10:12:49 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = went Hebrew] love to hear the tiihasoiotichs about two different approaches concerning contradicting at bag provided.

Off-this is a quality dry bag, mattress, in a tent.

A-access using inner-liner thing or blanket fleece, thermal clothing and raises the temperature inside the bag.

Access on any partition between the body and the bag hit efficiency and causes it to absorb him cold environment (to overcome initial source possible to let hot water bottle in the bag-resistant bottles, for instance of נלג'ן). Also, if you have trouble to lug brass blanket, spread it over the bag, not inside it.

Since I learned the materials published in the Forum, I guess I'd find many supporters for the first approach. However, since the second approach and sound sense, whereas you've quoted and valued person, I think that it is appropriate to confront two approaches.

To atiihasoiotichm.


I'll try.

When wrapped in a blanket you warm the air layer between you and the blanket is lightweight insulation and a warm winter coat more exothermic warming bag the bag its insulation ability is greater than mean duvet harder to heat the whole construction.

However when you without a blanket you warm up directly the air trapped in the bag is insulated better than it's easier duvet that warm sleeping bag is mostly solitary and lay out a blanket on top adds a little more isolation and mainly used as a wind breaker.

In terms of more comfort that the layer of warm clothes, a blanket and believable amount of heat you need to provide in order to maintain this condition or warm bag too however the touch layer of the bag up pretty fast so go during the night cold.

Bottom row option b look quicker if you insist so much thermal shirt and a blanket.

More bottom line (couldn't resist) that adsorb. There is no source. What exists is brown like a variable, make and/
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#12 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:09:44 AM(UTC)
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I've seen it a mile, 3 seasons one of cold feet hard to deduce what happened, maybe went cold night air, perhaps sensitive to cold. I do not know.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:16:23 AM(UTC)
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Went past,

I would choose option a and of course there's an explanation.

But before the shcsh little add-on question is 1 standard EN comfort.

Masteria is part to the fitness of a sleeping bag include a mattress (self inflight website) including socks thermal clothing, two tent and to use these additions in order to configure the device.

A sleeping bag is in isolation and therefore thermal clothing which role to significantly exceed the warm feeling because in fact increasing the isolation.

Put a blanket on shcsh it may feel warm (like a blanket of time) but when outside humidity or heat it emits is absorbed by the body with a blanket and actually does the opposite operation. If sleeping in a tent just even worse because less moisture evaporates into the air.

Isolation method of shcsh works by capturing air between fibers and fiber inside and when we launch this is therefore more isolated (shcsh more swollen/fill) insulation capacity improves and more fluid rejection capability from outside and more evaporation capability inside the isolation ability improves.

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#14 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:21:20 PM(UTC)
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 12:24:16 PM(UTC)
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I think right now we're past the stage of trial and error so us beloved. Very obvious thing is that there is no hard evidence, my own experience and those of others have and that's it, no proof.
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#16 Posted : Thursday, November 3, 2011 8:20:39 PM(UTC)
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In my experience, extra layers adds warmth.

But if it's too crowded in the sack because of additional layers, heat flow in the bag becomes corrupted, resulting in the bottom of the feet are warm (this gives off much less heat than other areas of the body). You can stick your feet in a above, the Palms in sleeves-very helpful. If you use one brchity can put them on your feet as another layer.

In my experience the blanket sleeping bag very helpful.

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#17 Posted : Thursday, November 10, 2011 1:40:23 PM(UTC)
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#18 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 5:54:03 PM(UTC)
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Despite what I'm going to write sounds strange and ridiculous, travellers in the U.S. recommended me to sleep with a hat on your head at night and cold feet problem go away, and it works. A hat on the head and/or neck = hot hot legs (scientific reasons for it, but can't get them).
Try and be disappointed.
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#19 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 6:42:22 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = moon.] Despite what I'm going to write sounds strange and ridiculous, travellers in the U.S. recommended me to sleep with a hat on your head at night and cold feet problem go away, and it works. A hat on the head and/or neck = hot hot legs (scientific reasons for it, but can't get them).
Try and be disappointed.


What won't get them. " How is that?
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#20 Posted : Friday, November 11, 2011 7:22:19 PM(UTC)
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The body has a blood flow priorities.
During sleep, blood (= heat) flowing mainly head and internal organs in the abdomen. Meanwhile, the blood vessels in the limbs and blood products to them (= feeling cold).

If a hot body and he shouldn't do this prioritization, so even blood flow to hands and feet.

I believe in the way access.
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