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GibsonLP  
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:56:47 AM(UTC)
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Hello friends.
Finally tried on shoes today.
Spent in Ramat Aviv branch of ricochet and sellers there (especially wave) were very polite, friendly and patient (I was there for more than two hours!)
I've tried several models but remained 3 relevant models:

Alderman Salomon GTX shoes Discovery: not comfort, fit me like a glove and comfort such as nike. I was really surprised. The seller says they're the best comfort he knows but they (from personal experience) slightly less durability designs like Asolo Powermatic Dan ... I tried it in the store and out for over half an hour and my leg felt fine.

La Sportiva FC Eco: shoes, too, felt very comfortable right from the start, but after 10 minutes I started to feel some pain in the feet (the kind you feel when you stand a lot), so the man said a sole that consists of several parts will not be standing as the Asolo

Asolo Power Matic 400 GTX: had less initial feeling comfort and soon started to hurt my feet. The seller gave me to try them with arch support (think of SuperFeet, but I'm not sure) and it helped a little, but they were still very uncomfortable.

By the seller, recommend the salmon just reminded me that they are probably less durability.
Obviously you need to break the lock, my questions are:
1. is insisting on brand him as the old Oslo consensus have despite uncomfortable me and hope they will ease next? (BTW-my familiarity with the market sometimes consensus is simply a direct continuation of Israeli culture although it is decide myself humbled status here)
2. does anyone know and can give opinion about the three contestants?

It is important to remark that these shoes from shoes in the Israel National Trail (INT) alone. I'm not looking for a shoe that fit me even for trips elsewhere although?. If you buy an excellent shoe for a place like the poor Grand-just buy shoes for thousands if you decide to fly there.

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arthur  
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:15:13 AM(UTC)
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Some Threading tastefully styled and easy to read. A real pleasure to read. Nice editing!

Remember one thing about Bill Israel-Israel trail is a trail.
So forgive me but respected Forum members I think you could do most of the Israel National Trail with regular sneakers so I recommend based on my opinions and experience as one who did.
The best match for salmon from the list you gave. The most easy breathing.
Don't get stuck on durability because chances are you already have to change shoes after Israel trail that the South plays you the sole beauty.
The salmon is very comfortable and get in shape. Their sole quality sleep even though I wear out faster than any of the shoes-medium heiking

I think the old Oslo is very heavy compared to the terrain you encounter for largely very convenient and works on trails. Well as the South.
What are really the most resistance from the list you gave.

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guy_ziv  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:54:23 AM(UTC)
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I personally just started and immediately finished my novel with old Oslo.
Disappointed both product and service.

Can't help about the rest.

Recommend to go with the shoes before setting out for.
Have fun.
Eli TheHiker  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:06:38 PM(UTC)
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I have experience with Asolo Power Matic GTX 400 last year, and ASOLO older model but very similar in the past. The old model had approximately 6.5 years and about 2000 km and although slightly opened the sides could continue to function if the sole was rubbing fully.
In Asolo Power Matic 400 GTX went about 800 miles last year in similar terrain to the opinion, Israel locked herself in a very rigid way built and standing and is intended for use in harsh conditions and it is one of its advantages though the more and more I hear from people who want a quality latest models of old Oslo in recent years.
The biggest drawback of the model I think it is too hard and who don't normally this shoe stand for a lot of shpshfot, warts, arthritis etc. Compared to other similar models of its upholstery competition companies less comfortable but built to hold longer.
Regardless of the lock you choose, its erosion depends very much on the personal style and maintaining locked in general such as, cleaning and drying as needed and used.

For those not accustomed to this shoe with sole and cushioning is very hard I wouldn't recommend taking one. Who is normal, then lock up and standing in the field.
זמי1  
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 5:35:22 PM(UTC)
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In my experience it is not possible to recommend the appropriate shoe to track, it's very personal, each other foot, ankle and different volumes each and stamina and sensitivity.

One suit and sneakers both suffer. It's all the good experiences in my closet has 8 pairs of shoes most deprecated because I bought, I have tried and failed.

Per-shoe trail shoe in the Israel National Trail (INT) not to.

Professional shoe "broken" rigid, hard to get opinions from feeling.

The most important thing is to buy large size shoe and a half.

I've seen these landward routes that went with Crocs and simple sneakers from the supermarket and as those who followed heavy shoes.

Basically trial and error.

arthur  
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 20, 2011 6:08:23 PM(UTC)
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A lock at shmmlitim 4 variants:
Route.
The weather.
Weight on your back.
Walking in the water.

Of course, if uncomfortable shoe so user won't go but then force also have shoes, let alone to track X because they are hard/soft/breathing/etc.
The recommendation never be perfect but we can definitely rule out shoe that fits. Arthur 40897.6311921296
Yagil  
#7 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 2:04:34 AM(UTC)
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According to the parameters you specified, there's no question: the painful shoe store wouldn't be easier then. However, the old Oslo are not a medium weight shoe and up: they have everybody from EVA (as in sport shoes), great suspension but over time crashes under weight. Right now, the option is a comfortable shoe you might need to change in the Israel National Trail (INT) against other couples who annoy you in one way or another, all for the question.
LiorEl  
#8 Posted : Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:13:30 PM(UTC)
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I went with Solomon Israel, trail EXPLORER had very comfortable! But her sole completely worn out at the end of the trail. The desert was too much for her. Another guy and girl were walking with me and they were Solomon AUTHENTIC finish for the honor.

Today I have the pawrmatic, but I agree they comfort me they indeed.

I heard good things about scarpa ZG 65 or Mustang. There is also a nice VASQUE-models who know how to make shoes.

Don't compromise on comfort! It is critical.
Good luck!
GibsonLP  
#9 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:40:12 AM(UTC)
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Many thanks for the replies folks.
Next week, stop by the ricochet and buy the Alderman Salomon.
And I opened the thread I allow myself to fuck loads:

My wife has problem annoying when measuring. No high shoe wasn't easy, she says she feels as if she's wearing snowboard boots.
I must say that just how I felt with the old Oslo but with the La Sportiva Alderman Salomon and I felt a lot more comfortable in this context (the ankle's strong but not too much).
My wife says she's not strong the laces too and still she was a shoe for her.
The shoes she tried
Alderman Salomon Tiana
TreZeta Juliette
Alderman Salomon Discovery (female version) and some she didn't.
Does that mean that she must walk the path with low shoe? (Most anyway have weight but she still sometimes step fifteen pounds on your back).

Again thanks.
arthur  
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 4:25:00 AM(UTC)
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A question really.
On the one hand, it takes a while to get used to the feeling of hiking shoe and the other can be really in her preferred shoe 3/4 or low shoe.
Very individuali.
I for example don't like the feeling of a particular model of VASQUE
And I traded him to another high shoe gave me a different feeling.
ליאור1  
#11 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:51:58 AM(UTC)
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Recommend skarpa-ADK or SL
אירי  
#12 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 6:57:28 PM(UTC)
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And I mean most important, comfortable shoe (of course is suitable for hiking, etc, but this is the first consideration)
זמי1  
#13 Posted : Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:33:44 PM(UTC)
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Today, and for the last few days, I've come to new insights-after lots of walks, maybe that's just because inflammation Achilles tendon not moving lower I think problem was created because I went last in the weight on your back, maybe vasek shoes excellent for medium but probably not suitable for backpack and body weight (body weight is probably more meaningful.)

I started thinking to search more rigid shoe, high, Magid talk.

GibsonLP  
#14 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 12:01:50 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for the responses.
Arthur: the shoes she already 3/4 shoes. :(

Ma-what does that mean? I should take a rigid shoe and used?

BTW I weigh much (digital 3D), Alderman Salomon in the mission?
arthur  
#15 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 6:23:50 AM(UTC)
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Gibson look it is very important to know the difference (which is not always easy) between discomfort occurs not accustomed to something that surrounds the ankle * and discomfort that occurs because lock.
You know what I mean? Very important that you understand this.


* Man "line" wearing low shoes 100% of the time, lightly padded, and therefore feels a little less hard lined shoe and high can mean discomfort and cause of Kenya shoe that fits.
GibsonLP  
#16 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 10:36:03 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Arthur. (Age, BTW).
I understand exactly what you mean and I asked my wife if she's just uncomfortable because she's not used or you really uncomfortable.
It is comfortable and the top of her ankle embraced in such a way that rubbing her feet during the walk and just make her warts in the area if she goes with it.
guy_ziv  
#17 Posted : Friday, December 23, 2011 12:12:48 PM(UTC)
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Ma done? After total of disappointment I now really old Oslo before buying new shoes and your passion on the Vasque Breeze made me go on the shoe.
Now with your message.


It's a big deal to pick a lock.
Need some genius and pop-lock.
Amazing shoes that fit all feet in the world, every field, every load, 100% 100% waterproof ventilation and water (well?) all at once.
And also be able to cook her a good meal at night (in flames that held based on smell).
If so why not even sleep in it? And you know what? I could use an option to hook up both shoes in case the woman you want to join.
And all for the sake of saving weight. So a pair of shoes also consider something like 1 kg.
Buyers have?

Dear breaks you move you considered taking some project of importing tents? I say take the project. Guy_ziv 40900.3880439815
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#18 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:28:10 PM(UTC)
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#19 Posted : Saturday, December 24, 2011 8:44:17 PM(UTC)
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[QUOTE = Yagil] according to the parameters you specified, there's no question: the painful shoe store wouldn't be easier then. However, the old Oslo are not a medium weight shoe and up: they have everybody from EVA (as in sport shoes), great suspension but over time crashes under weight. Right now, the option is a comfortable shoe you might need to change in the Israel National Trail (INT) against other couples who annoy you in one way or another, all for the question.


The question is over, about shoes-I especially saw in one forum reference to weight are expected to carry on their backs as a parameter to select shoes and sense but aren't what matters is the weight on the back + weight? I.e. a person weighing 60 kg and 20 kg on his back it's rush for a shoe that weighs 75 kg and 5 kg?

Edit: just saw a comment of Ma up to reference the body weight and is at least seems to think this is an important parameter
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bcarmi  
#20 Posted : Sunday, December 25, 2011 12:01:51 PM(UTC)
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An interesting concatenation
In any case, if you decide on the Discovery showed Alderman Salomon GTX on Friday of "operation ב"חיה. (15% discount).
Enjoy for Israel. This is an experience for life.

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